Hating modern technology….

 Anonymous (@)7 years, 4 months ago

I don’t really get the hate towards modern technology. I suppose i’m partial to it since I see it as benign, and was born in an era where digitally based tech has been the norm, or increasingly so at the least.

my honest opinion is that people simply don’t like the fact that it’s not clogs and pedals. so yes, technological developments are evil, and all things in life are static, got it..lolol.. No in honesty, I believe so genuinely, I think not seeing oil greased machines scares people.

Actually, is this truly the real reason? I think genuinely some deem the values of the “good old days” as the grand absolute. IMO, absolutes in life are like unicorns. They don’t exist, and as far we know never have. haha..

January 7, 2014 at 7:56 am
joyous1 (42) (@joleensmith12) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Well if you don’t understand someone else’s hate, then you have nothing to worry about… But maybe you should ask someone instead. To my understanding, its the advertisement that comes along with it. The slow loading and the refreshes, the software updates, the accidental deleting of your files, the confusing links and pages you have to go through just to find one page. The 45,000 passwords you will probably always forget every time you log on to a website… Its just agitating and its almost as technology raises our stress levels… I worked 8 hours yesterday drawing a picture online… like a digital painting and it got erased… now if i would have had that down on a canvass instead, i wouldn’t be as frustrated. The only thing about technology now is that its all made by corporations and it all just comes with ads. Its like you can never escape. I can’t go to school unless i have a computer. I can’t sign up for my gym group training classes unless I have an app on my smartphone. Its like modern technology is making it impossible to escape society.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I agree we don’t need society.

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Samtop (2) (@Samtop) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I have friends and coworkers get mad at me for not knowing things that were only disseminated via Facebook, which I refuse to interact with.

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Michael Fern (0) (@Fern808) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I have these feelings a lot. I am in school right now and like joyous said, It’s pretty much impossible to avoid having to use these technological tools. I realize that these advancements have the opportunity to be very good things, and in many ways they are, such as this website. But these things that are created to help and further us as a race, end up being used for peoples personal gain. It all comes down to money.

One of these days I’m gonna get rid of all of it. This is my goal. No more bullshit distractions.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

well maybe it’s just me, i personally don’t mind it.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

put.down.thecamera.and.put.your.hands.up.praise.the.sky.the.future.is.a.lie.

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Ok, so am I “bad” for not minding technology?

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Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

im having a hard time understanding where this post is going..

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I’m just interested to know why many hate modern technology.

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Yael Alonso (59) (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Who are these people? And why would they be using an internet forum?

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Anonymous (175) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

dunno, but they must have good social comprehension…

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danthemanwhocan (0) (@danthemanwhocan) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

i hate it most of it apart from using my laptop.
The things you need to know about tech (ultra short version):
Its becoming a overpowering force with destroys the enviroment, peoples freedoms and privicy. It takes away peoples jobs, makes us work and train more to fit in with ‘socitety’. Then when you are with people we can not tell stories because we been used to tech for so long. I could go on. People right whole books on this stuff but there prob to tired to read/find them as there been working all day to pay for there tech and there tiny bit of space that the so called goverment as granted. So fuck the tech(apart from my laptop and my free internet). Sadly most people don’t get it and very soon we will be walking credit card/phones with no where to hide or escape because we domesticated the world. If thats ok with any one i hope the commit sucide and do alot of people a favor

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Frosty (45) (@iflipvans) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Unicorns actually do exist… People hate smartphones and computer-like devices that store memory because they glitch. Personally my phone is the most annoying thing. Having viruses is bad. Being tracked by satellites.. I don’t see a plus.. and losing memory because of forgetting to save or the devices battery drained/froze is the one most frustrating thing to experience.

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Kavita (3) (@Molecularpixel) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I know how you feel. What bothers me is not so much the existence of technological advancements but how they are utilized and the fact that people (younger, older generation whatever) abuse the privilege of having information at their fingertips.

For myself, I get peeved at people looking at their phones while I am speaking to them. I was also born into the digital era but I’ve grown to embrace technology rather than waste hours facebook stalking, watching mindless crap on youtube etc. Not everyone does this stuff though and many do it moderately.

Honestly though, I don’t give a crap about technology or no technology. Just ride with the flow…of electricity.

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Samtop (2) (@Samtop) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Here’s a little TLDR fodder for you:

Derrick Jensen’s 2006 two volume masterpiece Endgame does a fantastic job of illustrating how the infrastructure required to manufacture these technologies are fundamentally incompatible with continued multicellular life on Earth. I’ve major issues with everything he has to say OTHER than his analysis of the problem, but man does he hit the nail on the head over what the problem is. Not a fan of his solutions, though.

It kinda requires tracing a network of causation, so there’s no Tweetable rhetoric that would do the argument justice, but I’ll try to sample it from memory for you. Speaking just of computers, the manufacturing process of circuit boards is extremely toxic. As such, it is done mostly in China and SE Asia where the media connected world of consumers do not have to/get to see the epidemic cancer rates and appalling working conditions of these facilities. If they constructed safer and more humane factories then computers would be prohibitively expensive and there would still be the hazardous materials factor to deal with.

Another link in the chain: the required use of rare earth minerals in the manufacture of computers and cell phones. For one, this is an extremely finite resource that often requires very environmentally destructive mining practices. For two, coltan… just google image search it. Basically fills the same role in the global power structure as diamonds. Goes a little somethin’ like this: the foreign powers farther up that chain (e.g. corporations in US, Russia, EU, UK and I assume anyone with fingers in similar pies) undermine the resource base of the area (see Confessions of an Economic Hitman for one of the mechanisms), giving rise to a class of sociopathic warlords incentivised to grab what resources remain. They do this by enslaving others living in the area, forcing them to mine coltan (or diamonds, cassiterite, wolframite, gold, etc. see Wikipedia entry on conflict minerals) that they sell to smugglers, that they in turn sell to the highest bidder. The warlords then use that money to purchase weapons that they use to tighten their stranglehold on local resources. It’s a process intrinsic to a global economy that rewards those willing to exploit their environment (people included) with impunity.

It’s quite a bit more complex than even the Military Congressional Industrial Complex, which is complex enough to be called a complex… complex complex. It’s no wonder, what with our internet shortened attention spans, the counter argument that “the internet is bringing the world together” usually wins because most folks don’t care to scrutinize globalization to the degree required to understand it. Remember, nuclear physics is also complicated, so as long as THEY keep the A-bombs where WE can’t see them, then it doesn’t stress us out too much.

Other notes: Facebook is creepy on so many levels I can’t even begin and Google = Cyberdyne. Where’s John?

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Samtop (2) (@Samtop) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Case in point on the Google = Cyberdyne: I only JUST registered on this site, this my FIRST post, this is NOT my computer, but there’s a fairly recent picture of me attached to my profile that I did not put there. I’m sure there’s a perfectly direct little piece of programming that would explain how that happened, but the fact that the information infrastructure is there, combined with the NSA intercepting the entire internet all the time… not cool with it, didn’t ask for, don’t want it.

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Anonymous (30) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Wow, I always sort of imagined something like that was the case, but to see it all laid out in front of me is pretty mind-blowing. So, what IS the solution? Stop using computers all together?

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Samtop (2) (@Samtop) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

There’s an important distinction between “problem” and “predicament.” Problems have solutions, predicaments must simply be endured. Looking at what’s feasible (without the oft alluded to miraculous shift in human consciousness where all the worlds ills fix themselves), getting rid of computers ain’t happenin’. I’ve been chewing on conceptualizing the enormity of the world’s imperfections for years and still don’t have and answer better than “brace of impact, this is gonna SUCK.”

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Samtop (2) (@Samtop) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Another thing covered in the above mentioned book, Endgame, is a pretty thorough debunking of “consumer activism” or “lifestyle activism”… the whole “be the change…etc”

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Anonymous (30) (@) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

I’ll definitely need to check the book out.

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Samtop (2) (@Samtop) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Careful. It’s really heavy. Especially since it was published in 2006 and was supposed to be the “we need drastic measures RIGHT NOW” book and those measures didn’t happen. Not to say I agree with his implied methods.

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Bono (18) (@bono95zg) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

people who have problems with technology are stupid. period.

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Samtop (2) (@Samtop) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Unpack that. Predator drones are technology. NSA spy software is technology. Automated stock trading software is technology. Sarin gas is technology. Fukushima nuclear plant is a big ol’ piece of technology. Limited Liability Corporations are technology. Flexible plastic polymers that make consumer goods that become a continent-size island of floating garbage in the pacific ocean that is slowing breaking down into microscopic particles contaminating the globe with carcinogens (inuits have to feed their babies formula because their breast milk is too toxic because of this) is technology. Depleted uranium with a radioactive half-life longer than the projected life of our sun (~5 billion years) is a byproduct of technology. Hydrogenated oils are technology. Tar sands refinement is technology. Hydrofracking is technology. Pesticides that have created Texas-size dead zones in the ocean are technology. Robots that eliminate that need to pay humans to do a job are technology.

I have problems with technology. Period. If you think technology is benign, then let’s see your counter argument. Or do you just not have a problem with killing all the everything?

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Bono (18) (@bono95zg) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

also your car is technology, your laptop, your phone, your dish washer, everything around you is made by technology.

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Samtop (2) (@Samtop) 7 years, 4 months ago ago

Moderator?

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