I believe in eating healthy. I believe in eating whole foods – the way we humans are meant to eat. I see a lot of threads about diets and exercise and all that crap. Pardon my language but ummm….fuck diets. The word diet should only mean “the kinds of food that a person, animal, or community habitually eats.” Make healthy eating a way of life. Make time in your day to cook yourself a meal. Your body and mind will thank you years down the road.
Here is a page of the most incredible recipes I’ve ever found. They are all healthy and they are all undoubtedly delicious:
Hope you guys enjoy.
Most of those foods are probably a lot better than what the average person eats, but they still aren’t really healthy. There is the healthy as defined by the mainstream health media (low-fat, avoid red meat, plenty of whole grains, lots of fruit and veg, vegetable oils etc.; very similar to the recipes on your list) and then there is healthy as defined by how humans have evolved to eat(wild animal flesh and vegetables). We are biologically identical to our hunter-gatherer ancestors. The hunted meat, and gathered whatever edible plants they could find(many wild plants either taste awful, are completely void of nutrients or are toxic/harmful). This is, as you say, “the way we humans are meant to eat”. I don’t mean to
I don’t mean to be dismissive of your way of eating, I’m just tired of seeing bad nutritional advice based on worse science being spread by people who don’t know any better. Quinoa isn’t really healthy. Beans aren’t really healthy. Pasta certainly isn’t healthy. Sure, they’re a better alternative to junk food, but that doesn’t really say much. Check these out:
@devitt94, The hell are you talking about? Do you know my personal diet? Yeah didn’t think so. I eat 90% vegan. Tons of veggies, fruits, nuts, whole grains. Please don’t make assumptions. And sorry, you’re wrong about quinoa. It’s a slow-digesting carbohydrate that contains all 9 essential amino acids. Yep. It’s healthy. It’s also high in magnesium which can help regulate blood pressure. You’re also wrong about thinking that animal consumption is healthy. A diet high in animal protein increases your risk of cancer. I suggest you read The China Study.
I do consume animal products occasionally. I’m not saying it has to be avoided. But humans are meant to eat what the earth provides. The truth is…all of your protein, carbohydrates, vitamins and minerals can be acquired from plant-based foods.
@chodebalm, Whoa, chill out. I never assumed anything about anything about your personal diet, just the list of recipes you provided. Like I said quinoa isn’t that bad, and yes it’s probably the only plant food that contains all 9 essential amino acids. But most of the micronutrients in quinoa (including magnesium) are bound in phytic acid and can’t be absorbed by your body. Phytic acid in high amounts can also flush out other water soluble nutrients(magnesium, zinc, calcium, iron, vitamins B and C). Most vegans/vegetarians are deficient in the fat-soluble vitamins(A,D,E,K) as well, due to low fat intake and not taking in the right forms of these vitamins. For example, it has been shown in multiple studies that you need at least 10x the amount of beta-carotene(plant form of vit A) to be converted to the same amount of retinol(animal form of vit A). Vitamin K1(found in greens like kale) cannot be absorbed or converted to K2(fat soluble, animal form of K) by the human body. It is however, converted by animals who eat grass, which we subsequently eat. Mother nature does amazing things when you don’t try to go against her.
I have actually read most of the china study. It would take forever to point out all the scientific flaws and fallacies here. It is a theory which is based on the cherry-picking of data from hundreds of different correlative studies, many of which are at the very least questionable with regard to scientific method. It certainly isn’t conclusive proof that meat consumption is bad. Far from it.
Getting all your nutritional needs from plantfoods would be extremely difficult. There are all sorts of important ratios of various nutrients(e.g. omega-3:omega-6, calcium:magnesium, PUFA:saturated fat) which must be balnaced for health and which are incredibly difficult to maintain on a plant-based diet. One would have to eat various plants from all over the world in very specific quantities and all-year round. I think we can agree this is not a sustainable way for us to eat, considering the impacts this would have on the environment. I could get all the same nutrients(and many, MANY more) in a few eggs laid by hens in my backyard.
@devitt94, I have to say your are wrong to say vegans would be deficient in A,D,E or K, especially since Kale covers almost all of those and I am pretty sure most vegans eat lots of Kale or Spinach which is also high in those vitamins. As far as omega-3 (avocados), calcium (almond milk), protein and iron (beans, and yes beans are healthy). At the same time I dont think anyone needs to be 100% vegan because moderation is key in my opinion. I will eat meat if its grassfed organic, maybe once a month or so. I will eat seafood and eggs also but in moderation, maybe once a week. The problem is that most americans are having a meat with every meal, and we are not carnivores by any means. Our ancestors that ate meat needed to in order to survive, we on the other hand dont need to for survival so we shouldnt over consume it thinking we NEED it for anything like protein and iron.
@devitt94, Just as you say The China Study is a theory and contains fallacies, so is the “caveman” aka Paleo diet. I could provide tons of info on why a person shouldn’t support or why it’s not very good for you. The truth is, there isn’t a diet out there that doesn’t have someone nitpicking every little thing about it. A person should choose a diet that works for them. Personally, my diet caused me to shed 15 lbs. of fat. I’m at 8% body fat, lean and muscular, my mind is clearer than it’s ever been, and my blood pressure (which used to consistently be 130 over 90 or higher) was measured at 100 over 58 two months ago during my last visit to the doctor. My cholesterol levels are very low as well. My point is…do whatever works for you. The links I provided are a terrific alternative to the shit people eat today. There really aren’t many recipes on that site that aren’t healthy for you. And at the end of the day, if it’s weight loss that someone is concerned about, it’s calories in vs calories out that matter, and you can find tons of low-calorie recipes on there, not to mention many foods that support fat loss and increased metabolism. Peace.
@reinvented2012, Kale and spinach contain beta carotene and k1, which are very prone to malabsorption. We need retinol and k2, which are found exclusively in animal foods. They also do not contain vitamin D, except maybe in neglible trace amounts. Avocados contain far more omega 6 than omega 3, so they’re not really an ideal source. Yeah you may be consuming plenty of micronutrients, but as long as you still consume a decent amount of grains and beans, the majority of those nutrients won’t be absorbed.
@chodebalm, Like you, I don’t subscribe to any diet. I eat the way humans have evolved to eat. I agree, diets are for losers, for those who need someone to think for them and tell them what to eat, for those who mindlessly follow the crowd. Just because your health has improved, does not mean you’re as healthy as you could be. Also, beware that low cholesterol isn’t necessarily as good thing, it depends on the type of cholesterol(HDL, LDL, as well as blood triglycerides). Cholesterol is an essential substance for synthesis of many vital hormones(testosterone, DHEA, progesterone, estrogens, glucocorticoids and vitamin D synthesis from sunlight).
@devitt94, Low bad cholesterol. I get plenty of the good cholesterol from things like salmon, oatmeal, almonds, and berries to inhibit LDL. I eat 2 eggs for breakfast every morning, and it’s funny…my girlfriend and other people have said I shouldn’t eat 2 eggs every day because of the cholesterol in the yolk. Eating one or two eggs a day actually increases HDL in healthy adults. Eggs are also high in lecitihin, which raises HDL. It sounds like you know quite a bit about health, food, and the function of vitamins and minerals and how the body uses them. I know quite a bit about it too. I’ve spent the last year and a half being a health and exercise nut. I live so much differently than I used to. I’m very food and exercise conscious. I apologize for getting off on the wrong foot with you and for making assumptions in the beginning. I can see you and I both know what we’re talking about. Seems our diets may differ slightly, but overall it appears we’re both healthy individuals, and I suppose that’s all that really matters.
Check out Ayurvedic food and their dietary system. Kinda smart actually to integrate the whole perspective into our way of absorbing the food, rather than just pointing at separated statistics and a few clinical studies.
I wrote a quote yesterday on my blog, which would suit very well in here:
Isn’t it ironic how sure we are about our opinion today, when every time we aquire new knowledge it tells us how little we actually knew yesterday?
The problem with these kind of health/food discussions is that everybody functions differently, everybody takes various vitamins and minerals in a different way, not only due to the fact that we have different bacterias in our digestion systems, and this varies from person to person, but also because of different metabolism, different environments, different psyche and so many other factors we do not even know about. Then you have to take into account a person their history, possible diseases/illnesses (weather or not they are connected with food), the medicine they are taking and have been taking in their past and what kind of influence this had on the body etc.
I find it helpful to read different opinions as in this topic, because it broadens my own knowledge, so thanks for that guy. It is also nice to see a discussion like this being able to go in a civilized way without one proclaiming to have better knowledge than the other one. I am certain that a lot of readers are benefitting from the knowledge spread here, so keep up the good work.
Bodies have evolved differently based on who the ancestors were. If they were living in a hot climate year round that didn’t need to store much fat, they burn carbs much slower and can be sustained on a more meatless diet.if your body evolved to store fat quickly, those carbs- whether complex or not- will be burned straight through and stored for later, causing you to be more hungry. EDIT: those people overeat on a higher carb/ less meat diet bc they don’t get enough satiation and energy. Others can live all day on fruit and nuts.