hermetics

Tine (@tine) 7 years, 7 months ago

i have started Franz Bardon’s initiation into hermetics and i am looking for either a teacher or a fellow peer to discuss, learn, and bounce ideas off of,

if you would like to join me on this, please message me privately. thanks for any interest

June 24, 2014 at 2:52 pm
Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

This is hilarious.

You’ve either done a complete 180 about everything (which I highly doubt) or you have no idea what the hell hermetics is even about.

Either case is hilarious, but the latter is more hilarious… and more likely.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

sigh, i dont think you know me enough to say ive done a 180 on anything, i think you have your opinion, which is everyone is stupid, and you apply that generally, which this post represents,

im not asking for anyone to do anything for me, i am asking for someone to talk to, i understand hermetics is meant to be figured out as opposed to taught, but talking to others on a similar path always helps,

please remove yourself from my posts if the only thing you do is shit on everything, as you always have done

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Alex Eastman (71) (@alex) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

I’m interested in listening to anything, but as far as a conversation, I cannot say I know the least amount about hermetics, although you did peak my interest! I am looking into it now. Perhaps in the future I can speak about the subject with you rather than listen to what you have to say, haha.

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Alex Eastman (71) (@alex) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Addendum: I knew Hermetic seemed familiar. Hermes Trismegistus, “as above so below” etc. I would love to talk to you about this sometime!

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

check out Franz Bardon’s instruction manual on self discovery within the context of hermetics, its not an answer book but a practice of realizing the truths that hermetics offers, i think you’ll like

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Anonymous (328) (@) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

No one can teach you. It should sprout from your own thirst of it. This is one of the problems with modern/western spirituality. It’s commodified and distorted to fit a modern naive perspective, no matter how esoteric the topic is.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Well that applies even more to a lot of the eastern stuff as well, Buddhism in particular.
Still, the worst of all is the western adaptations of eastern teachings. And vice versa (that’s a real thing, surprisingly.)

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Anonymous (328) (@) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Yep. That’s what I meant when I said modern. Most religions.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

i understand what you mean no one can teach you, im more interested in what people are like that apply it, what do they use the knowledge that is taught in hermetics for? i have no context as to what it means in a reality setting, if people have undergone the teachings and have found validity, i dont ponder that as a need to be convinced to study it bc i will regardless, i ponder it to understand more deeply what it is i am studying

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S (102) (@tictacfanman) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

“im more interested in what people are like that apply it, what do they use the knowledge that is taught in hermetics for?”

Martin Faulks has a channel on youtube, a lot of it focused on meditation techniques he claims he learned from Hermeticism and Freemasonry. He has interesting videos on the subject, perhaps you’ll find something useful.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

interesting, though it does somewhat concern me that this individual is using his knowledge for attention, even if under the guise of explaining to others, the idea that is being pressed on me as i read Franz Bardon’s book is that it is a private practice, meant to be kept from others, as this is a sign of ego depletion. i’ll take a look regardless though, ty for referring this to me

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 7 years, 6 months ago ago

Why didn’t he just grab the coal directly from the stove?

Hermetics is very interesting though. It seems to just guide one into the mind to learn the truth. From what I gathered, it basically says that the truth cannot be taught, only “learned.” I say learned like that because it’s more of a remembering process than it is learning something new. As they say there is nothing new under the sun. We just have to remember.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

“i have no context as to what it means in a reality setting”

It has much to do with this.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

hmm

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Kris (328) (@kjbaran) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Hermetics has been best understood by myself by first understanding that like all things, hermetics is just a means to an end. By understanding the “punchline of the joke” first, its easier to understand the joke itself, regardless what forms it may take, even hermetics. So here’s the punchline, Creator cannot create that which he is not. Therefore, creation IS the creator but only to the extent that creation KNOWS it is. Thats it, you’re God. All Knowing is at your fingertips but only to the degree that you know that you are God. Theres the trick, KNOWING yourself.

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Animal lover (1) (@Kristinrs7) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Wow you just gave me cliff notes and I thank you for it:).

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Alex Eastman (71) (@alex) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Love the way you put this! I have similar ideas but you definitely are better at putting it into words. :)

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emptyminded (68) (@thoughtless) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

so provocative, i do believe these words because ive drawn similar conclusions from my study but the extent to which we are able to manifest our “god given birthright powers” seem to have a physical cap. even if the cap is one constructed by the mind, the mind is primarily created to have a cap based on experience… so i wouldnt say its knowing that your god but realizing that your god ( you might argue that realizing and knowing are the same thing but they are not). the only prob when it comes to knowledge of this nature is fantasies…

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Kris (328) (@kjbaran) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Interesting, to say that the physical cap is constructed by the mind, and to then say, the mind is created to be capped. Mind and Mind Knowing is all there is. Everything else is illusory effect produced by Mind Knowing, even the physical capping of Your-“self”. The observations are true that our brains processing experience are limited by the tools plugged into them; eyes, ears, touch, ect. HOWEVER, whom is observing these processes? “God given birthright powers” is just a stipulation, one no different than viewing time linearly. In order to Know anything, you must understand not just the illusory effects, but the Cause that produces them. The Cause, like the punchline, is the same. Its You. You are the cause to every effect in your life. The continuity of cause and effect deceives the brain, very much like the frames of a moving picture deceive the brain into seeing motion, which is not justified.

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emptyminded (68) (@thoughtless) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

“The observations are true that our brains processing experience are limited by the tools plugged into them; eyes, ears, touch, ect. HOWEVER, whom is observing these processes?
that question is about the nature of consciousness and ultimately, the identity of “self”
Everything else is illusory effect produced by Mind Knowing, even the physical capping of Your-”self”
you seem to consider physical reality an illusion?

“You are the cause to every effect in your life.”
nope, i didnt cause alot of things in my life, like where i was born, the color of my skin, my family… there are invisible forces present all around us in the physical reality, and also entities which we can control with our conscious will but are independent of the egoic man. so in short i am not the cause to everything unless im the creator him self, which causes a cognitive dissonance to occur within my head space.

i have a few questions…
do you believe your god?
if your god what am i?
if we are all god, who/what design the layout of this reality?
if you studied hermetism, your more than likely to come in contact with high magick, what grade are you at?
have you ever considered that the deductions youve drawn from everything youve come in contact with was just a compilation to a fantasy that you are creating?

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Kris (328) (@kjbaran) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

I will do my best to my brains ability to assimilate your questions into answers. Do I believe I am god? I believe I AM god no more than a wave believes it’s the ocean. Belief lends no allegiance to Truth, I can only Know that I Am. As I Am so You Are. You are not a what, so much as you are a Whom. As far as the “layout” of “this reality”, You will always be your own best teacher. Others as myself can only point you to what you ultimately already Know.The question concerning grades of high magick within hermetics do not apply to me for this very reason; The devils in the details. There’s 2 ways to attain the truth, the easy way, and the hard way. The hard way is to resist within, this manifests itself as a complexification of information within the brain. The easy way is to resist not, this manifests itself as simplification. Think of it an infinity sign where all Truth and Knowing represents the center. Flowing away from the center represents thinking, where flowing towards the center is meditating/non-thinking. Why complexify to get to the same result as it would be to just simplify? Mans infinity will end in the mind of man, where it began. The statement I made where I said that You are the Cause to every effect in your life may sound strange, however, who is the You that I speak of? The body You’re perceiving Yourself with? Certainly not :)

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

you are god as in, god of your perception, the part that is seperate from the physical reality ? if you meant this then i wholeheartedly agree, what people worship if paid attention to is aspects of their accumulation of knowledge and experience and they call this ‘god’, despite it just being their perception which they feel they do not control. if you meant, god of even the physical reality, i would disagree on this point

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TheSeer (168)C (@drallarnnat) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

You should visit http://vsociety.net — they have forums for such practices. Fairly active and highly knowledgeable practitioners. They ale have online lessons and guidance on such subjects as hermetics, magic, body energy arts such as tai chi and qi gong. Very good website as far as websites on such subjects go.. They really hammer down on false claims and lies and this definitely increases their credibility.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

i did man, thank you for this find, i will utilize it

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