How are we actually gonna do it?

 Justin (@justinc123)7 years, 8 months ago

Change the current paradigm, I mean. Are we just going to wait for it to collapse under itself or are we actually going to do something about how shitty we’ve let things get? If so, what and how? When and where? I feel as if changes are beginning to take place and people are starting to see things for the way they are but what about action? Maybe it could be because there isn’t a “leader” type figure in real life who makes it apparent that shit is getting done, maybe things will happen so gradually that we won’t notice as it’s happening, but once it’s happened we’ll just be like well wow holy shit. But anyway. What do you guys think? How are things actually going to change for the better and how are we, as a society and as individuals, going to make it happen?

October 12, 2013 at 1:33 pm
YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

I don’t even care anymore. Apathy suits me well.

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hello (113) (@smortlur51) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

I’m with ya, definitely some changes coming along. I think one of the best ways is just to stay active and positive, keep putting information out there. I don’t think necessarily just waiting for it to collapse is the best idea, that makes it sound like we don’t have to do anything, it’ll just happen on its own. I feel that especially in today’s age of information and knowing what’s happening around the world instantly it is getting harder for those in power to suppress the things that demonstrate how shitty it actually is. There is going to come a point where the people who just sit there and take it, won’t take it anymore. More and more people are “waking up”

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hello (113) (@smortlur51) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@spaceghost, Don’t give up!

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Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@spaceghost I mean, I get it. Really what it boils down to is we get better or we kill ourselves, for the most part it’s just that black and white.

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Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@smortlur51 I agree. I suppose the question at hand is, how do we organize all these people together? And the follow up question would be once we do, what do we all do together? I think the key is finding or creating a median in which all these like minded and peace driven organizations can come together and collaborate with each other to have a larger impact. The power is in numbers but is only applicable when those numbers fluently act as a unit.

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hello (113) (@smortlur51) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@justinc123, I believe these things will naturally sort themselves out. I’m not saying we sit back and be passive about it, but we will find a way of making it work. I mean we have the ultimate motivation, making the world a better place. What I think is going to happen is more and more people will “wake up” and start to band together, and these groups will band together, and those larger groups will just keep merging with others. You had mentioned a leader in your first post, I think thats a big thing too. Do we need a leader, per se? Or is the fact that we would all be unified in a common goal make us as one, and not even need a leader. I don’t have the answers, I dont think anyone does. But damn these are exciting times

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Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@smortlur51 I think Anonymous had proved you don’t need a leader to make a large and known impact haha. And I agree with you, we just gotta let things come as they may, and more and more it seems that people are waking up not only to the corruption in the world but also to the fact that the only way to solve it is through unity. And yes indeed they are haha.

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Anonymous (2) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@justinc123, be the change, someone powerful is going to have to step up and take responsibility for what is happening and be a new person who isn’t like the rest. Someone with a vision of what the future should be, not what it is going to be as of right now.

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Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@karstens I think the Information Age has changed this completely. It more than likely won’t be one single individual with the fate of the world resting on his shoulders anymore, rather the collective acting as one to achieve a common goal.

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John (12) (@johnharris67) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@justinc123, in complete agreement. One individual acting as a ‘voice’ for the downtrodden millions will inevitably end up up as all the others did (Jesus, JFK, MLK etc…). You can’t assassinate a collective. The way forward must begin with COMPLETE TRANSPARENCY. That concept is gonna make a lot of people very uneasy but will most definitely change our world for the better, forever.

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Ben (62) (@Mallorn) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

you need to define a paradigm before you can change it…

“changes are beginning to take place” changes in what? specify what you’re talking about

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Anonymous (2) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@justinc123, it has changed being heard but nobody has really changed anything, I mean all of the negative information about our world is now more than ever at our fingertips, and there are online groups but none of them really have power or enough of reputation to get people to follow them. It is sickening but things are not changing until that “one person” does decide to either make something of our negative habits or continue to let them go on happening. When the right person has that hope for a belief that they can change actually change the way the world is going then it will happen, but the way things are set up right now it is not going to happen. It takes a very certain someone not a website , not an environmental activist group , one person. Just to get the message across.

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Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@karstens, I see what you’re saying but look at our history. Every time that one person decides to act alone, they are almost always assuredly killed. This fact coupled with how expansive and how large the current system is, I have no doubt there have been many who had the potential to be that “one” but they were disposed of before they even had the chance. If revolution and change happens in the form of a collective or idea however, without a central leader or control system, it is much harder to take care of. Maybe there will be that one individual, maybe it’s even one of us, but the likelihood of success would be now, more than ever, against them.

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K_Rey (2) (@kailin) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

I think it will be our existence itself that will eventually grow- the paradigm will change gradually as more people ‘wake up’ and join our collective consciousness of peace and community. I mean really, our experiences expressed on this website and the way we translate them into every aspect of our lives- make certain people just positive and fun to be around, and sooner or later everyone will follow that shift into a community free of everything wrong with the current paradigm- greed, envy, etc., and even the need for a ‘leader’ in its current meaning. We should all keep on living as the positive people we are; forcing change will create contempt and possibly backlash from the controlling forces we’re under, we should do what makes us happy and positive just to feel good, not (yet) with the intention of overthrowing this structure we’re part of.

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inna (95) (@paintedbeings) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

do your part because everyone’s got a different part to do and their own set of best abilities that can influence immediate people and change their lives. Start trends that work for the masses and can take on a life of their own.

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Paul (0) (@pablochu) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@justinc123, Change ourselves, set the example, like Jesus.
I told a drug addict from my community I’d give her a book she might like, because she told me she liked to read. “I’ll carry it around for a week, in case I see you”. I took the book to work, to the laundromat, etc. The one time I left it home, I saw her. Maybe reading it would’ve made a difference in her life, who knows.
Until we have a leader, we can start with the Man in the Mirror.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Alot is already being done. Not all see the celestial sanctum yet, but we will soon.

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Anonymous (57) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@justinc123, Just give global communication another generation or so.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

Global communication is just another wonderful tool used to keep us from really knowing. I don’t think that will ever be a key to enlightenment, even in the future. Why would an enlightened world need the webs? “For the Devil sends his beast with wrath, because he knows the time is short”.

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Anonymous (2) (@) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@justinc123, Yeah see we both see the bigger picture here but eventually there is going to be someone, or maybe an event that just triggers all of us to see what is happening to our world. In the river of politics only the lightest shit is floating to the top. Imagine all of the stuff we still don’t even know…..But my point being that something or someone incredible has to happen, whether it is people dyeing, this person who can speak to our souls, or government secrets being leaked that are more significant to the ones that already have been

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who (557) (@season) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@spaceghost, Amen. I’ve been going more for “be a bigger jerk than the jerks.” You get bitched at but hey, if it’s raining grab an umbrella.

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DonnaCabel9 (0) (@DonnaCabel9) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

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John (12) (@johnharris67) 7 years, 8 months ago ago

@donnacabel9, thank you so much for reminding me that even in a forum of individuals mulling over our future as a race their is still someone trying to earn a buck!!
God bless you.

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