How believable are Conspiracy theories

Anthony (@ahawk91) 8 years, 9 months ago

Hey guys. I signed up with the site about two months ago. But before that I’d been watching certain films like the Zeitgeist series and other videos online. All of which containing ‘information’ and ideas about all of these conspiracy theories. Ranging from 9/11 to Casey Anthony even going so far to include WWII and claiming we provoked the attack on pearl harbor. So my question to you HEthens is do any of these theories have legitimacy? Or am I just a gullible citizen who thinks he sees the truth?

February 12, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

“Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.” – Buddha

Can you ever really know for sure? No, you can’t, not even mainstream information. That’s why that quote is really the only thing that matters when it comes to belief.

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Anonymous (251) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ahawk91, Some may have, and I believe some do, have truth to them. But that’s the thing with conspiracy theories, it’s all speculation. I think getting wrapped up in speculation could take over your life if you let it…which is really quite a waste of time.

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Put it this way. How many people wasted months, and years studying about the 2012 doomsday? Did it happen? (at least the way they thought it would)
People obsess over this stuff, and they waste so much life. But hey, if it makes you happy in the process, I guess it isn’t really wasted time is it? But most people aren’t happy. Most people make themselves upset about this stuff. They hate the government or anything with power, and then they feel helpless because they don’t know how to help.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

If something doesn’t feel right with you, go ahead and investigate yourself. Not through videos that others made, unless of course they are literally giving you evidence upon evidence WITH the links to that evidence.

I never give conspiracy theories any merit unless of course they have a lot of evidence to back it up.

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Anthony (1) (@ahawk91) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

I feel like whats really been bothering me is I’m a huge advocate of the Zeitgeist movies. And I tried to have a discussion with my friends about how inherently corrupt our government and others are. And they shot down every topic I tried to bring up. I guess I’m just confused as to whether I was just very easy to convince by the Zeitgeist movies, or if I just had a poor attempt at conveying my message in a meaningful way. Btw Zeitgeist doest have an entire file with their sources and such.

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ahawk91, What makes you believe the things within Zeitgeist?

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

I believe in the idea of zeitgeist in my own way and I think everyone should believe in it in their own way. The spirit of time. And I’m not talking about conspiracy theories. Conspiracies are interesting because they make you think, doubt, question and provoke your judgment and imagination. But there isn’t any real benefit from them or an outcome other than learning from history interpreted in a present way. They are the media for those not interested in doing their own research. Unfortunately there is too much abuse with people’s dreams and fears, but it’s all… a bunch of bullshit. Take care of yourself and the people that are close to you and don’t believe the paranoia, it’s a blinding condition confused with critical thinking

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Anthony (1) (@ahawk91) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

I believe what convinced me is was just the idea of a central bank. How all money is created by the debt of someone else. Which I understand when you look at it logically it just makes sense. You can’t get something without taking it from someone else. But when I look at the financial crisis of these people who have billions of dollars. And they just keep getting more and more. While Idk about you guys but I consider myself a ‘normal’ person, normal people have to work shit jobs for shit pay and barely survive on. Or if you want to move up in the world and live better you’ve got to go to college or university to make better money. (As we have preached to the recent generations of Americans.) But what it you lack the original capital to afford college? You must take out loans from the bank with excessive interest rates that people can rarely pay off. My aunt has been a lawyer for 20 years. And granted she works out of a small city and doesn’t make as much as she could, she will be paying off her school loans after she’s dead! That just doesn’t seem right to me. I feel as though we got rid of monarchy’s and dictatorships only for a new form of monarchy and slavery to arise

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ahawk91, So that is what you believe, and it is logical. I share your opinion. It works with your reasoning abilities and gives a clearer picture as to why things seem the way they do. Roll with it, but don’t just complain about it. Time to be constructive and see what you can do to change that- even if that is just spreading the info.

What actually bothers me most about a lot of these conspiracy theories, is that they present a very great logical idea, like the one above, but people automatically believe everything else they say, because they believed that one big argument. It’s like how people pass laws. The Civil Rights bill, which gave blacks the same rights as whites, contained a buttload of other things that were passed. They snuck it in, and people went with it because they knew that blacks and whites deserved the same rights. Little did people know that they were actually giving the government control over business at the same exact time.

Conspiracy theories work the same way for me. They get you to agree with the main point, but in effect, you are supporting a bunch of other points you aren’t even aware about, or would probably disagree with.

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Anonymous (46) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Think about this for a moment; If you would have the opportunity to form a country where everything is made the way you think it should, you colaborate with your friends to create the exchange, the politics etc…

Do not care abouth the politics think about how the money is made, you’ll see a big elephant in the room, hiding in plane side, and there is nothing you can do about it than follow it’s direction or shout conspiracy. One day you are in a place of power, a moment maybe where you can touch it and form what i mean yourself, will you kill the elephant or will you ride it, when you ride it your childeren have it better than you did……when you kill it you’ll create some true anarchy.. (be honest, and you’ll see who rides the elephant)

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ahawk91, That is why they are called conspiracy theories and not history. How believable are they? I believe that can be fun entertainment.

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Matt P (16) (@mkp843) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Just look up the Rothschild family… there is not much else that needs to be said… there are 3 countries in world that don’t have central banks that get their money from them.. worth hundreds of trillions of dollars that family..

With that said, i think it’s obvios they control essentially… everything… imo the type of ppl that put flouride in your water, gmo’s in your food, control your education, and information… But being an American is still really good most of the time.

Being mindful of your health and happiness is most important, and in America at least, you still can still make lots of choices to have good health, and be happy.

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E.C.F. Doyle (346) (@chekovchameleon) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ahawk91, I don’t really dig conspiracy theories. The arguments put forward most of the time just aren’t convincing enough.

“…claiming we provoked the attack on pearl harbor”
I wouldn’t say this is conspiracy theory but it is just a fact that America often leaves out when telling the story of pearl harbor. They cut off Japan’s oil, so Japan had to do something.

I don’t think 911 was an inside job. However I think people often kind of foreget that america had it coming. You don’t just reek havoc in the middle east and take control of arab resources without pissing a few people off. American media and culture often try to evoke sympathy using pearl harbor and 911, and though I think loss of human life is never okay, but America has had it pretty easy considering they have wrecked and exploited large areas of the world.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ahawk91, I’m writing what I call historical fiction conspiracy theory about the execution of Jesus. Touchy subject where I fuck over everyones beliefs for my own egotistical gain, good stuff.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

People have thought of it with reason, that’s enough to consider it. Just like any aspect of our world is thought up. It can’t all be exactly true, but having great skepticism can work for people. Nothing really is what it is shown to be. Just don’t get all crazy, process it and shit the bad stuff.

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Clovers (22) (@clovers) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Depends on the theory. But I can tell you that Zeitgeist is a massive load of bullshit.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@trek79, Nailing jesus? Bob dylan’s song “with god on our side” portrays an interesting idea on it. What if along the way jesus was corrupted(weakness of human form) and judas was ordered by god to rat on him.

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Because being the devil’s advocate is fun sometimes- here is enough conspiracy theories to last you a few years at least.

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a Lotus Blossoms. (140) (@ancientmystic) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Why is a conspiracy theory any different from a … theory? When conspiracy enters the term, it takes new shape and meaning. What the news reports is a theory. What online blogs say are theories. What your neighbor says is a theory.

Unless…

There is hard evidence. So besides evidence, @chodebalm, I think he hit the nail on the head.

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