Wondering what all you HEathens are up to away from the keyboard to earn your living, and why? Does your degree correspond to your career? Advice for a undecided student? I’m very interested in animal behavior, human-animal interaction, and cultures other than my own.
Wondering which path to take…it seems like a daunting process choosing just one.
If money were no object what you would you love to do? If worrying what other people thought was not an issue what would you want to do? What’s calling you from the back of your mind, what’s the tiny little voice that often gets overlooked telling you? Watch Alan Watts video http://youtu.be/MJ5LUPdCgi4
How old are because I didn’t turn 20 until I knew what I wanted to do. To answer your question I currently trade the fx markets from home. Completely self taught and I sacrificed many years to this one cause with no social life. I do this because it’s made me into a better person and because I need resources to achieve the bigger things I want to accomplish. I aim to one day start a charity and also to become a writer. Ten years ago I didn’t want these things but as we evolve as human beings we slowly learn more about what our soul needs to accomplish. Right now I’m feeling restlessness in my body because I intuitively know I need to begin practising meditation.
Sorry for the long winded reply but I hope some of it may help to see that some might find their true calling straight away. Those people are very lucky. Others it comes much later. I was a postman for 5 years so quite a radical shift to where I am now. Things change and each journey is unique and it’s the journey that’s the most important thing.
My advice- travel and do things you’re interested in now while you’re young and (probably?) have less to worry about/be responsible for :) Maybe take an internship someplace abroad where you can learn, live simply and have adventures! Especially if you’re interested in other cultures and animal behavior, so many neat places you could go.
Don’t worry about what path to take. It will diverge many times :) took me a while to figure that out after worrying about that for a good chunk of my life. You can do whatever you want and you can change it whenever you want! I know that doesn’t help the decision LOL
For the record, I am a software tester ATM. I am an artist at heart, and what I *tried* to study in a couple schools.. but I never made it through college :) wish I had a degree now. JUST to have one. I know far more people who don’t work in their degrees than in them *though I wouldn’t ever discourage getting a focused degree*
Check out your schools career board/area.. the could have some great opportunities if you dig! And try not to feel too pressured about salary in the beginning. It’s stressful and I think it discourages people from what would otherwise be a wise choice. Don’t be afraid of being poor for while- life and people will find ways of helping you.
@srhhrkr, right now, nothing, unfortunately. My degree is in business administration but at some point I realized that I didn’t want a career which would surely turn me into a stressed-out, psychotically angry alcoholic chain-smoker that speaks almost exclusively in meaningless corporate jargon and foul language.
I’m interested in creative pursuits, history, animals, vehicles, and futurism, for now. However, I have no training in any of that and it would take me until I am really too old to have much of a life in order to make enough money to start over. I can’t stand school anymore, anyway.
I’m not asking to get input about what I should DO, but instead just want to see all the different paths others have taken. And really, money isn’t a deciding factor in my quest to find my “bliss”. Like I mentioned before….interacting with animals and traveling are two huge things that have always peaked my interest. I’ve thought about working with animals for therapy use-such as canine or equine therapy.
I just feel so caught up in the mindset I feel that is pushed on students..to declare what you want to do, and SOON! …so exhausting.
Well I’ll be traveling to Europe with my twin next summer! Yes, I’m only 20-and sometimes I forget how young that is. I guess the stress just builds up with the expectations that you need a degree to succeed, which is totally false. Your right, it will change, and it already has so much! Thanks for the reminder to just breathe….
That’s my concern, too! I don’t want my career/degree to become so much the center of my focus that I forget to enjoy what I’m actually doing.
And after transferring to a new university, I’m beginning to get that itch that maybe I do just need to step away from college for a while. I will have to work after my trip to Europe anyways, so maybe that will give me more time to reflect on what I really want.
I work for my grandparents. They have a small business supplying pumps for agricultural and septic companies throughout the mid west. They also own a self storage business. My job is upkeep of the property. Sometimes I help put orders together. I’m also responsible for cleaning out units when a tenant moves out. I’m just glad I get to spend time with them, they are such amazing people.
@theskafish, “stressed-out, psychotically angry alcoholic chain-smoker that speaks almost exclusively in meaningless corporate jargon and foul language.”
Wow. I dont know how you could generalize a large group of people into something like that. Im not sure where you got the mindset that business admin or mmnt would, “surely” turn you into this type of a personality, but I think you should re-evaluate yourself and not generalize people that are for the most part hard working, and nothing like that. You obviously have some flaws about yourself or the way you view others if you say such things. I for one, as a business owner who took a business mgmt degree, am not any of those things. More over, I know many people in the same fields or closely in the same field, and not many of those people are those things either.
I think what you are forgetting is that the job doesnt make who you are, you make who you are. I’m not going to blindly say that every single business man is happy, because thats not true. Nor can I can that every single artist, musician, or any job in the world has all happy people working for it. Each individual is different, and they will react to any job in their own particular way. You can be the happiest garbage man in the world, or the most depress famous musician. Its all how you react to what you are given.
So instead of grouping everyone into a generalized catagory of having a completely sack of shit life, maybe you should change your self. If you really think that every single person in any business field lives a horrible existence, its probably just how you view the world. And if you continue to think this way, sorry to say but you will never be happy in any field of work.
i sit at my computer and make $839853984 an hour!!
I hate seeing these comments on this website now too…
But I work full time during the summer and part time now doing landscaping at a golf course. I love it, its so much fun to be outside all day, and I get out of work around 1, so I still have my whole day ahead of me! I’m in college now too, on my way to getting a degree, thinking about getting into forensics or possibly private investigation. But no real definite idea yet, just waiting to take a course that really wows me
@srhhrkr, I know how you feel. I remember the underlying anxiety of college years of not know what I’d wanted to do with my life and having two years to decide before university. In the end I dropped out of the whole system. I felt too restricted, I was too much of a free thinker. I love philosophy but found the syllabus boring with little room for true discussion. Felt boxed in and always hated that. So I dropped out of the system altogether and have kept it that way and just carved my life the way I want through planing, hard work and visualisation. I consider myself self educated and after dropping out began reading all the things that I was truly interested in and not what I was forced to study. Wishing you all the best. Peace
@yoinkie, idk man. Experience always colors one’s perceptions. The business people I have met constantly talk about/fantasize about/live vicariously through others whose lives they wish they had, while being rueful about their own ordinary lives. This is not a phenomenon I saw just one time and decided to make a generalization across the board…this is something I see time and again, far more often than not. I am sure they are hard workers, hence the drinking and smoking – it is their outlet for all of the stress, as well as the frustration/regret at not living a cool life due to age or other responsibilities.
You are a business owner though, and that makes a huge difference. As an owner, there is stress of course, but that is tempered by the fact that you are running your own life, you are controlling your own destiny. You have to deliver what customers want in order to stay profitable, but even that is still on your own terms. There is a certain measure of pride and good feelings that come from owning your own life, and the opposite is also true – being an employee sucks, it feels as though you are being dragged through life on a leash. All childhood dreams of greatness or even joy are dead, existence is reduced to working and waiting to return to work. The feeling of being in a subservient role, of essentially being someone else’s bitch, is a feeling I hate from the depths of my very soul.
That’s not even really my point, though. My point is, you hear ordinary business people wishing they were musicians, artists, athletes, and actors a LOT more than you hear any of the aforementioned wish they were just regular people with jobs. There is nothing glorious, memorable, exciting, or interesting in being an ordinary person who just goes to work and back, then goes out to restaurants or bars, comes home and puts on the TV or videogames, rinse wash repeat with the occasional distraction outing every now and again at sporting events and concerts, watching others live the lives they wish they could have. I would say that you are what you spend the majority of your time doing. If that happens to be your job, then that is what you are by default. And if you don’t like your job but must do it for economic reasons, it will feel as though you are trapped in an unhappy life.
@srhhrkr, Im not sure of a “career” choice, because I dont know if I want a definite career, I can tell you what I’d love to do:
I want to buy a lot of land, and grow about an acre of garden and have a couple houses (earthships), so sustainable earth-friendly homes, a art barn for art therapy and for my own art studio, animals to use eggs and goatsmilk but also have horses for therapy and have kids come to work on art and animal therapy as well as a place for people to live off the land and share trades. and maybe adopt kids or something. I dunno. I not only wanna live this way, but I want to build these communities every where around for people in need. give them animals and houses and stuff. I know America can do it. If we all worked together… I know we could all feed and house everyone. Why can’t we just get past our corporation/government blindfold and help people? Instead we all think we have to bomb and stuff. Ugh. Sorry its a rant. But its also my passion and i think we all know what we want to see on this planet. I just cant see why so many of us cant come together to make it happen.
What if all of our peaceful organizations came together and was big enough to generate in volunteers, money, food, solutions, and it could just be like a big shockwave of peace…. Like instead of consumerism, we turned into communal living and sharing and peaceful beings that saved energy and the planet 0.O
I’ve been working in a blue collar trade for a while now. It has nothing to do with my degree, and goes against “normal” career progression (my past few positions were management-level white collar).
However, I’ve been making plenty enough to take care of my family, and taking advantage of my unique schedule (I work four 12-hour shifts, then I’m off for 4 days). There are hard days and undesirable aspects, just like any other job any human has ever had to work.
But being tough enough to do the work, earning the aforementioned chedda, and then making the most of my days off can feel pretty satisfying. (Mike Rowe’s TED Talk on work has been referenced before on this forum, says well what would take me a long time to type, and is probably worth 20 minutes of your time.)
Adjusting to this way of life has gradually awakened a part of me that doesn’t want to have to find a way to make money out of the things I am most passionate about. That’s what my job is for: having it gives me the freedom to follow my passions without ever having to consider compromising my art or the way I chose to interact with the world.
Cool topic. Thank you.
@srhhrkr, Work is from your heart. It is the application of passion. To find this in a job is near impossible. But jobs are one of the most unnatural things humans do. So why would one seek to apply ones passion in such an unnatural process.
Jobs are to make money. That’s the sole point.
So take a logical and pragmatic approach. Work the job that can earn you the most income. So long as it is not too detrimental to your life outside of said job.
That way you will have the best chance to provide for yourself and anyone else.
No one is the job they work. People need to get over this concept.
This is not a perfect world. So striving for the perfect job is ludicrous.
Myself. I work in construction. In the state of Victoria, Australia (where I am living), I make $1900 after tax a week. For a 6 day work week. My mind is occupied all day with mundane routine tasks, some requiring mild intelligence. But this frees up my Intuition and higher consciousness to meditate and contemplate anything I choose, all day long. And I get a healthy wad of cash to then allow me to make the most of my life within the system.
I have many personal objections to the whole construction industry (including our pay), but its just not worth investing in such pointless contemplations.
Just my perspective amen what I’ve found works for me.
Hi I believe I answered the question of what I do now in my first reply to you. Whilst working as a Postman from about the age of twenty I began saving up as much money as I could. I also through many hours of thinking, decided that I wanted to get into finance to pit my wits against some of the sharpest minds on the planet. A big challenge as I had no background, I started with the book Rich Dad Poor Dad and went from there. So I began studying it myself. Book after book and 6 years later and I trade the FX markets full time.
Let me tell you though it was not easy and the sacrifices were and are still numerous. I had to cut friends out of my life that I felt were toxic, give up my social life to a large extent to keep my mind in optimum condition. Its like Jim Rohn said the purpose of setting monumental goals is not in achieving them, but in the person that you have to become in order to achieve them.
With one pointed desire and drive excluding all others I believe anyone can achieve what they put their heart and soul into. It’s not actually as glamorous as it sounds and there were times were I was so low I contemplated suicide. But I preserved kept reading and working my backside off. Eventually I could quit the day job. I’m no millionaire, I only earn the same as I did as postman more or less. But at least I’m doing it for myself and not for the man.
People may ask in response to one of the four noble truths: Right Livelihood. What good are you contributing? However I believe if an individual has a need to express himself through some medium creatively then that is integument-al to their well-being and therefore well-being of the world as a whole. Besides I hate the Wall st culture which is why I’d never take a job there. Its really only a battle with myself, a battle to strive to continually improve on a day to day basis. I can’t even recognise the person I was 6 years ago the change is incredible.
My goal has always been to help people and eventually to start a charity. Trading is a springboard to the much greater good and things I want to do in the world. Not to mention the free time I have to quench my insatiable appetite for reading and learning.
Dream big dreams and work towards them. It truly can be done.
Wishing you all the best.
That sounds amazing and the kind of thing I would love to help with too. Sounds like you’re half way there if you can see the vision in your mind! I know when it comes to the end of my life the only regrets I’ll have will be not making as bigger contribution to the progression of our species and the well-being and happiness I could of given to other.
To me the Government/Corporation strangle that they are imposing at the moment is actually working in our favour as the greater the antagonist the greater the reaction and they are pushing too damn hard. I believe that it is streamlining us toward a spiritual revolution as more and more people want things to change and want a better world. It seems the younger generations are more aware of this in total numbers than previous generations. Unfortunately things may get worse before they get better. But as long as we get there in the end that’s all that matters.
@srhhrkr, I guess, right now (55), I Am well cared for. My “chedda” comes from those I care for well…My Kids…2 boys who are successful in craftsmanship skills of variety…my daughter is an up & coming Veterinarian, going that route toward her own wild/exotic animal rescue. I will never have to worry for any machinery, nor house stuff, nor critters on Home grounds…I Am now the food raiser & base keeper, and although the ‘cheese’ is meager, the rewards otherwise are priceless.
In fact, I Am just now shopping for horses of my own again…Love the equine! I have helped so many throughout life so far to communicate with their animals & enjoy them…up-graded & transformed many farms for them…Did some farm-sitting that paid me to be thrilled by them.
Your post made me re-member with so many realms I played in for bucks…Nice! :)
I kind of looked at biz as “a way to get the fun stuff”…whatever ‘fun’ was at any given time. It was through the many of them that those who came through me were opportuned to hone the skills they became & continue to become of.
Personal Best’…Whatever you do, Darlin’, give it your Personal Best…Never compromise this! It is your integrity, your ethic, your moral, your Life cornerstone. And by All means…have fun with the stuff you do…make great memories of your time here. Toil well to be spoiled well! Good Journey! :D
I am currently in training to be a physical therapist. Its great in a couple ways, although I still have yet to get out into the field.
One- it helps people. All day people are grateful for your knowledge, and the amount of work you put into it is the direct amount of benefit the patient gets. Its nice to just help peeps all day.
Second- it is very open ended. I can do travel PT (6-8 week ventures around random places in the US), can work with kids, neurological patients, elderly patients, etc. I personally am very interested in learning more about yoga an incorporating that into my practice and healing processes. My girlfriend, also a PT in training, is huge on nutrition. So ideally I kind of want extensive nutritional knoweldge, exercise and healing knowledge, etc. I love that my future career is up to my own creative interpretation, or at least will be as i grow older.
It is however 3 years of graduate school- 7 years of school is longgggggggg
I’ve made a living for the past 6 years doing odd and random jobs. Waitressing, banquet serving, babysitting, door-to-door selling house paint, gymnastics coach, pizzeria delivery driver, preschool multi-sport league instructor, marijuana dealer, hot dog stand attendant, and of course the oldest business, prostitution. Jk about the last one but…I view the workforce as a mandatory way to be part of The System and thus it doesn’t really matter what role you play in it. Do your job, sell your soul to the job as your doing it, and then after you’ve committed your 40 hrs a week, BE YOU. I’ve found my style by becoming the ideal employee, and then in my off time being true to myself. Alter egos? Maybe. A way to make money doing anything, yup.
@srhhrkr, if you love animals and want to go to college study to be a veterinarian or marine biologist. Otherwise get a job at a zoo if you don’t want to go to college. Or become a scientist and study animals.
I went to college because I thought I had to. So I ended up getting a general business degree, getting a shitty paying job and getting huge amounts of debt. I could have chosen a million paths with or without college and gotten a job paying just as good or better.
Do what you love. Look at your hobbies. Take advice from someone who has been there and done it. I eventually will settle down somewhere and choose to garden and cook, and maybe open a roadside stand or restaurant. That’s my dream. Don’t need college to dream and make those dreams come true.
To everyone who is working the standard “day job”…not to be a jerk, but honestly, how good are you at your passions? Do you notice any improvement anymore? Do you still keep hope alive of escaping slavery and being more than a mere hobbyist, truly distinguishing yourself?
@jackperko, btw, what are FX markets?