How Do You Lucid Dream?

Monika (@money) 9 years, 9 months ago

I’ve read many ways on how to Lucid Dream and I really would like to know the most effective way. I’ve tried a couple times, but I find myself just slipping completely away after a certain point and my dreams just take me elsewhere and I have no control.

I’d love to hear anyone’s experience if they’ve mastered it, and what adventures they were able to go on!

September 3, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Octologic (5) (@octologicmedia) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

I’m not a “Master” yet but I’ve done my fair share of lucid dreams and out of body experiences.

The best way, in my experiences, to prepare for lucid dreaming is to do three steps:

1: Sleep Journal. If you begin to document your dreams, may it be written or spoken, you have a higher tendency to lucid dream the next time you fall asleep. Keep the recording device close to your bed because you tend to forget your dreams really fast when you wake up.There more I have documented my dreams the more I can remember them as I wake up.

2: Dots. Take a pen and mark a dot somewhere on your hand, or somewhere you will see it periodically throughout the day. As you continue your normal routines you will stop noticing the dot on your hand as much it has become so common. The idea here is to get used to seeing the dot in this reality, then when you’re dreaming you don’t see the dot and then can realize you are dreaming.

3: Think Lucidly. Before I go to sleep I think about lucid dreaming. But not too hard! One of the most important things I’ve learned is not to force things; while lucid dreaming and before lucid dreaming. As soon as you force it, it’s over. I think of Lucid dreams as delicate, and if you move too fast, you rip yourself right out of it.

The newest thing I have tried doing, which is actually working pretty well, is thinking outward. It’s hard to explain. When I close my eyes, I imagine my thoughts and my spirit going outward from my third eye (middle of the forehead) After I while I start to feel myself slowly entering a lucid dream, whereas in the past I just happen to realize it half way through the dream, get too excited, and wake up……

Hope my 2 cents help you lucid dream better!!

Have you been able to Lucid dream before? Have you ever had sleep paralysis before??

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@money, I mean maybe I’ll be the motivation to you that someone else on this site was to me:

The first time I ever heard of Lucid dreaming was from a guy I met in college. He told me that his most memorable one was a 3-day span of him having limitless sex with as many girls as he wanted to. He said he got to try all kinds of positions and basically satisfy all of his craziest fantasies.

Yeah, that concept is interesting but I was much more intrigued by the concept of controlling yourself in the dream. I never forgot the conversation, but trying it seemed distant and I allowed it to fade.

A year or so later, I am talking to another friend and he tells me that he has actually been lucid dreaming frequently and for years. In fact, he keeps detailed accounts of those dreams as he wakes from them. Basically he has a whole other world in his dreams and even people who interact with him, including a few people who actually seem to unlock his subconsciousness.

This was the conversation that REALLY intrigued me, but I still didn’t really make an effort to have one.

Fast-forward to this summer, and I find HE. Surfing through the discussions and enjoying this new and awesome site, I come across one from someone who was interested like you are now. One of the people that replied started going into details about how she had a dream she was at work, but she knew that she shouldn’t be at work, and this is what allowed her to understand she was dreaming and become lucid.

THIS is the one that pushed me over the edge. You probably won’t love my response, but I just got really motivated and then had it happen. I remember it completely. It was awesome.

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Monika (24) (@money) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@octologicmedia, yes I think I have had sleep paralysis before and I was really damn afraid, but it was a huge relief when I woke up. It was weird, I fell asleep, and then in the dream I was in the EXACT same position wearing the same exact thing so it was difficult for me to see that it was a dream. There was a mass of black evilness above me that drifted into my room, after it creepily creaked open my door and it started pulling my hair, and I was really in fear of my life. I tried screaming but I couldnt, my voice was gone. I could not move my body at all, I was completely paralyzed and no matter what I did I couldn’t escape the dream until finally I guess my fear was too much for my body that I woke up screaming bloody murder, haha it was the scariest experience ever. Anyway, I don’t know if I’ve ever Lucid dreamed. I may have been able to once or twice, but lately I have been completely consumed by dreams and unable to control any part of it. I am DYING to experience one, so I can do crazy things in my dreams. Go on some kind of adventure.

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Monika (24) (@money) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@lytning91, no! I really appreaciate your story, that really intrigues me as well. I guess its just easier for some people more than others. I think your friends story about how they are able to always do it, and have a whole world there is the coolest thing I have ever heard. I wish I had that! I’d be ecstatic.

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@money, I mean, he did briefly post some stuff about it on HE but he has yet to return in a while. You are more than welcome to read it over.

Dream Mechanics

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Octologic (5) (@octologicmedia) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@money, It’s crazy to hear you talk about this darkness. I have experienced this “darkness”, or what I like to refer to it as “nothingness”, only once. It was my out of body experience. I was slowly realizing I was dreaming when I began to close my eyes inside my dream (like closing my spirits eyes or something) When I did a sudden darkness had began to engulf the entirety of my body. No matter how much I tried, I couldn’t move an inch. But I remember how my lucid dreams and sleep paralysis work; if I stop resisting I get what I want. So I gave in to the nothingness and I began to feel myself fall out from under it. As I did this I lifted out of my body and began to see myself laying on the floor (where I was sleeping) I FREAKED THE FUCK OUT….so i fell back into my body. Then I did it again and fell once more. The third time I grabbed my cabinet next tom me and pulled myself out of my body. The first thing I did was walk over to my parents bed, and stood over my dad’s leg. He had showed be a black bruise he got from poor circulation earlier that day. So as I was over his leg I channeled my energy from the core of my body into his leg. The I woke up. I had work as soon as I got up and forgot to check my dad’s bruise that day to see if I helped at all. So I’m not sure if I helped at all, but I do know that three days after it was healed.

Sleep Paralysis is not something to be fearful of (nothing is really). The first time I had sleep paralysis I legitly thought I was being abduction by aliens. I quickly eliminated that as a possibility as I woke up. I’ve learned that sleep paralysis is actually a great way to help you lucid dream. I remember every time I randomly had sleep paralysis I would try not to resist and as I did I began to hop from dream to dream. Sleep Paralysis is a great segue to lucid dreaming.

Have you ever dreamt of a future event? Even an event 5-10 min after you wake up?

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Monika (24) (@money) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@octologicmedia, oh my, thats a really intense experience! the weird thing is I couldn’t just give in. I never stopped trying to move, I was to afraid to just accept the weird black mass above me. That darkness was so evil though, I can’t even explain how! I just KNEW it was, and I knew it meant harm to me. The part that freaks me out is that I’ve dreamt of this evil blackness above me before, and each time it results in me fighting so hard to move that my effort transcends to my conscious self and I wake up legit screaming. LOLLL but i freaked the fuckkk out as well. I think your right though, if only I stopped resisting maybe I could lucid dream better! And yes I actually have dreamt of future events, however I cant quite think of an example at the moment. I just remember previously feeling really freaked out about dreaming it before it happening. It may have been something small, like a storm coming or something.

Ughh I LOVE dreams and that whole world nothing intrigues me more. It’s like this whole new universe! Have you dreamt of future events?

You know what else, I read somewhere that you can’t dream of someones face who you’ve never physically seen before but a couple times I’ve had dreams about people who I KNOW I’ve never ever encountered. Perhaps I saw them for a second or passed a random stranger and then dreamt about them? Maybe I just forgot I saw them. But it happens a lot to me.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

I lucid dream naturally, and what that means is I have had to teach myself not to. I find dreams far more rewarding when I am not conciously manifesting detail. My favourite dream lately was a zombie apocalypse scenario where I was actually killed. Good times. But I die a lot in my dreams.
There are times when I’m flying and I suddenly forget how to and crash. There are the times I can’t climb a sand embankment then get washed out to sea. I get in fights and although I put all my strength into a punch, the guy doesn’t even feel it. I have been shot, hit by trains, I have had dreams where I’m busting to go to the toilet then finally do and realise I’m asleep and probably just wet the bed and wake up suddenly only to find I’m dry.
Random un-predictability is where I have most fun in dreams so lucidity is not as special to me as it is to others.

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Octologic (5) (@octologicmedia) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@money, I don’t think the nothingness is Evil. I just remembered the other time encountering nothingness. It was actually 3 nights ago and it was the first time i recorded my voice and documented my dreams that way. (I sound like a total dork every time, and you can for sure tell I just woke up…lol) But that’s besides the point. The other time I encountered this nothingness I was on a balcony of a building. Below me there was a party and I knew (not saw) that my friends were partying below me. Something happened and everyone ran inside. I became paralyzed laying on the floor of the balcony and I saw the nothingness in the form of a person walking away from me. I could barely utter the words ” h-hel-help me” He (maybe a she but It looked like a dude) heard me and started to walk back to me.He shoves a red ball or cloth into my mouth and I awake. But for some reason, i don’t think it meant me any harm.At the time I was scared, but now I think the opposite. and the only defense I can give is the thought of sleep paralysis. At first i thought i was being abducted by aliens and i was gonna die, then I realized it was a means in which I could venture into the limitless possibilities of lucid dreaming!

I have had multiple dreams of seeing the future. The coolest one started when I was trying to see if my eyes were open in sleep paralysis or i was dreaming my environment. So I began to spit on my bed so I could check if it was there when I awoke. Then the door opened and I could hear my mom coming home (I can tell by the sound of her keys) I can then hear her put groceries into the kitchen sink. Still paralyzed on the floor looking at my cabinet besides me. Then I woke up. I checked for the spit…nothing. So it was a dream and my eyes weren’t really open. The door opens and I’m thinking “Aww helll naa…” So I get up and go to the kitchen and my mom walks through the door and proceeds to put the groceries into the sink. That day questioned my understanding of dreams forever.

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Monika (24) (@money) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@trek79, wish we could switch places for a day! But I suppose you have a point there. It’s nice to have a part of your life that you don’t have to control at all. But If I could, I would see certain people, and travel to certain places. It’s like a whole world where things could go your way. It’s interesting how you die alot, that hasn’t happened to me too often, sometimes I wake up right before I die.

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Monika (24) (@money) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@octologicmedia, hmm then maybe we had different experiences, because I KNOW for a fact whatever was above me was evil, and meant me harm. It felt like an evil spirit trying to harm me, otherwise why would I be so afraid? And it wasn’t a nothingness I could see it. It was black floating above my body.

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Octologic (5) (@octologicmedia) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@money, So That’s how it started at first. And I can defiantly agree that I too thought the black entity was evil. I remember looking into it and feeling horrible; fear running down my spine. I even woke up screaming from seeing it.

Then I heard this weird notion that Fear actually stood for: False Expectations Appearing Real. I really took a liking to this notion. The first thing I thought of was when I was little and my dad would turn off the lights in my room. I was overcome with fear. But why? I was “expecting” something to come at me and harm me. Then I remember seeing a figure “appearing” on the other side of the room. I was so scared I turned on the lights. Then i realized that what I had thought was “real” …was actually “false.” Stupid lamp…almost giving me a damn heart attack.

Fears are as real as you let them be. They are from what you are unsure about. Just like the dark figure. Hell, you could be completely right thinking that we are seeing two completely different figures. But I remember, at least from what I’ve heard you say, feeling scared of this figure that was going to do me harm. I remember actually documenting this when I was recording my dream. But the more and more I think about it, the more and more I believe it to do me no harm.

I mean the whole purpose of lucid dreaming is to control our dreams. Why shouldn’t we be able to control that black figure?

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Kevin (536) (@placid) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

Through out the day I ask myself am I dreaming and I mean it, don’t half ass asking it. I get it int he habit and eventually i’ll actually be dreaming and asking that question will trigger it.

I’ve tried the whole dot the hand and pushing hands together, i’ve always ended up it being in my dream. Like i’ll actually be dreaming and I do the reality check and I pass like i’m actually not dreaming.

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Milo (57) (@milo) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

Wake up, hit your snooze button (Mines for 20 more minutes) then go back back to sleep. I lucid dream almost everytime.

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Monika (24) (@money) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@octologicmedia, hmmm perhaps you may be right about the fear thing. But I don’t know, I guess you’d have to have seen it from my perspective to understand why it felt like pure evil. I mean it was pulling my hair, as if it were trying to pull me from my own bed and hurt me. I’m not sure what false expectation I could have had for it. Perhaps it was some kind of fear I had inside me, but it sure seemed malevolent.

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Monika (24) (@money) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@placid, Yea the dot thing deff didn’t work for me either, and I don’t even check for it in my dream. But I think I’ll try checking in with myself if I’m dreaming during the day – maybe that’ll help!

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Kevin (536) (@placid) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@money, Well you are suppose to constantly check it during you waking hours to get in the habit of checking. So when you are dreaming, you’ll habitually just check the dot.
My problem was, I would be dreaming, I check for the dot, and the dot is actually still there in my dream, therefore not triggering lucid dreaming.

Sincerely asking yourself are you dreaming and actually look at your surroundings with great detail. It seems strange at first because you clearly aren’t dreaming but asking skeptical often will become habit. So when you are dreaming and ask yourself, you are going to be shocked. You’ll probably wake up first few times actually.
Just gotta remain calm and at first don’t try to control your dreams.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@money, I rarely wake from a death dream, some times it propels me into a new scenario, other times it returns lucidity and I just come back in the same scenario, just equipped with the abilities to force a desired outcome. But you know how they say if you get hit in the head, you see stars? That is what it is like to me, I got hit by a train and it was like I was suddenly floating in space with a sensation like passing out with mild pins and needles, really strange, but that is what I expect death to be like.

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TaureanH (31) (@taurean10) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

If you use marijuana stop for 2-3 weeks and keep a dream journal. Idk why but heavy weed smoking seems to cloud or even stop completely your ability to dream. I’m a pretty big pot head and I stopped for a little while and the very, very lucid dreams started coming in bunches every night! It was awesome!

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TaureanH (31) (@taurean10) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@octologicmedia, “aawww hell naaa” hahaha

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Octologic (5) (@octologicmedia) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@milo, I completely agree with being able to Lucid dream if you do it right after you wake up. I’d just add not to move too much when you wake up for the best results

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Octologic (5) (@octologicmedia) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@taurean10, Weed defiantly stops your dreaming, but I feel that it gets stronger if you do it in moderation. That Sleep journal is helping a boat load!

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Brendan Barstow (182)C (@eyesopen) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

I’ve been training for lucid dreaming for a few months now. I’ve had maybe 8-10 since I began a regimen consisting of keeping a dream journal and performing regular reality checks throughout the day (I find plugging your nose and breathing to be most effective, you can breathe doing this in dreams) to be the most effective method. I’m still working on having more consistent LD’s and I have a long way to go on the control side of things. I find flying difficult, that’s been my first skill to practice and I haven’t nailed it yet but I keep on trying!

It’s pretty enticing to experience a realm of limitless possibilities completely unbound by the natural and cultural laws of this waking realm. However, there are no shortcuts. You need to be diligent and stick with it, and after a while of keeping a good regimen you will have more vivid dreams, and eventually lucid dreams.

Good luck!

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arno (0) (@arnosedgley) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@money, I rarely try to force lucid dreaming nowadays. But I used to. Initially I found it very difficult to enter the lucid state while sleeping.
I read several books, many articles, web pages etc.

The method I was successful with was this:

Several times every day ask yourself if you are dreaming.

How can you tell? You could be dreaming now.

The traditional technique in occult circles is ‘the hand method’. You just look at your hands for several seconds. If they don’t morph, you are awake. This works because the mind abhors stasis. Any imposed stillness will work – you don’t have to stand, gazing at your outstretched hands like a dork. Just look somewhere where nothing is happening.

If you are in a lucid dream and are loosing it – run, jump, spin like a dervish. I call this ‘the foot method’.

The hand method to test for a dream, the foot method to stay in a dream.

Perhaps the best thing about asking yourself if you are dreaming is that it can really freak you out. The hand method becomes essential during your waking hours. Many times you will find yourself in a lucid state while awake. This is scary at first – but a good thing.

I don’t seek out lucid dreams any more. Every dream has its own physical laws. These are its language. I just let the dream speak. If that means I experience the illusion of lucidity – cool.

Also: the entire thing takes place inside your head. So why does ego identification with one body/mind within the dream qualify as lucid? Surely a true lucid dream would be one in which you realised you were the entire dream.

Being lucid while awake is a mental state and can be recalled, more or less, at will. Like a memory. Probably this is the true fruit of lucid dream work.

Good luck : )

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Will (10) (@cooper2023) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

If you want to read about some mind blowing experiences one can have while lucid dreaming, read Robert Waggoner’s “Lucid Dreaming- gateway to the Inner Self.” Truly one of the most inspirational and eye opening books I’ve ever read.

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