Sartre's refutation of Freudian theory in "The Transcendence of the Ego"

Psychonaut (@psychonaut) 7 years, 6 months ago

How does Sartre’s notion of the Ego, as present in the two faces of the ‘I’ and the ‘Me’ (with respect to the three orders of consciousness, as well as unreflected and reflected consciousness) refute Freud’s ‘primitive’ ideas of consciousness?

I’m not familiar with Freud’s corpora, so I’m not entirely sure how Sartre’s theory of the Ego compares. Please elucidate for me! Thanks.

December 7, 2014 at 4:49 pm
Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 7 years, 6 months ago ago

Could you give a definition of both? I haven’t read the texts, but I am familiar enough with both that I should be able to understand it. (Im personally very interested in the refutation of Sartre’s idea of a transcendental consciousness by the idea of Ponty’s embodiment)

Psychonaut (133) (@psychonaut) 7 years, 6 months ago ago

Hmm, I cannot give you a definition of Freud’s theories, at least not right now. I’m wondering what you mean by “Sartre’s idea of a transcendental consciousness”, I wasn’t aware he theorized such a thing.

Geo (0) (@geocosmos) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

Sartre has no common thread with Freud. In Freud it is a technical description:The Superego contains Parental Demands the Sub-conscious is of course full with dangerous desires and the Ego is the Navigator…. Freud is a Schopenhauerian thinker (that means solipsit:that all what we seeis colored by “only myself” as a projection of feelings. Sartre,on the contrary uses Hegelian concepts, and there the Ego -the moi -is in fact a Void, a Nothing taht has to be filled with meaning – and it is incontrast to the Things en-Soi (in itself) that is the FActicit√©, the Things. So,as you see,there is no point in comparing the two,they are not in dialogue. (Except in Lacan, but I confess I do not understand a word from him.)

Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

Thanks for this elaborative explanation.

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