"I am who the people of your planet call Lucifer" Part 2!

 Justin (@justinc123)7 years, 7 months ago

LINK TO PART 1 HERE: https://www.highexistence.com/topic/i-am-who-the-people-of-your-planet-call-lucifer/

That was the absolute last response I had expected to hear. Lucifer, the great deceiver, the purest state of Evil, the bringer of all pain and all destruction. I was waiting for the fear to completely consume me, for the landscape to become fire and brimstone, and for his form to become nightmarish as he lashed out and gnawed on my flesh.

But the fear never came, and the assumptions to follow never did either. Only the peace remained. I could find nothing to say.

“Your silence suggests that you are very astonished. And so does the look on your face. But all is well, for I am not surprised in the least by your reaction. It is exactly what I would expect of those who know my name.”

“Who.. What are you?”
“In your current form, that knowledge surpasses your physical comprehension. Just know that I am very old and very wise. Know that I have, among others, been here since the begging, all expressions of the same One. As for my title however, I have many, but the one you are most familiar with I have already told you. I am the entity your people call Lucifer.”

It was no more expected the second time he said it, but it did not have as much impact. Fortunately I was beginning to remember how to form coherent sentences, and therefore, questions. Very, very many questions.

“Okay… But you’re not… Evil. You’re not ugly. You’re not sitting on a throne of skulls and torturing the wicked. So why is that?”
“All, among many others, major misconceptions, I’m afraid.”
“So you’re not hell bent on the destruction of humanity and overthrowing the seat of God?”
“That unintended pun had me internally chuckle for a moment, I must admit. I am one of the highest advocates for the continued growth and evolution of the human race and am also amongst the highest expressions of source that exists in this reality. So quite the contrary I am afraid, my apologies for disappointing..”

A tone of sadness seemed to enter his voice towards the end of his response.

“Im sorry, I did not mean to offend..”
“It is quite alright my friend, no offense taken. Your disposition towards me is more than understandable. It is just hard to know the beings I love so dearly skew my name so severely.”
“Well according to you there’s a major misconception there. But if you don’t mind my asking, why do you care? You are of divinity. Why would the opinions of the human race even remotely shake your composure?”
“Because they are a race for whom I feel very much love. The only thing that saddens me more than their beliefs on who I am is seeing them completely eradicate themselves and their planet. Your race is on the fast path to physical annihilation.”
“Truer words have never been spoken. You must be completely miserable.”
“On the contrary my child. Mans highest expression of inner peace is on par with the lowest of my own. Make no mistake, higher states of being, or what you mistakingly refer to as divinity, do not eradicate emotion. They only strengthen your ability to accept what is and be at peace with the reality of it. In other words, my being at peace does not translate into my being robbed from the joy of sadness.”
“How can sadness bring joy? And you say our calling you divine is mistaken, does this mean you are not divine?”
“You have much to learn my child. All things are blessings in one form or another. The more you evolve, the more you will come to realize this. And no more divine than yourself I am afraid, just a few billion years further developed, that’s all.”

I scoff at him a bit in my own mind, but the more I think about it, the more I feel what he’s saying must be accurate. As inadequate as his very presence, let alone child comments make me feel, I must not be more than an infant in his eyes, an insect even. I want to mull on what he says a bit more, but more pressing matters enter the forefront of my mind. I put all other questions on the back burner for now.

“So why me? Why am I here?”
“I was wondering when you might get around to that. Most people, out of the very few that have been here, tend to ask that particular question right away. The fact that you took much longer than the usual human intrigues me, but I digress. You see, I have already answered your question. I told you in the first encounter exchanged by you and I; You heard the rain.”
“What does that have to do with my being here..? Everyone hears the rain.”
“Everyone hears the impact of rain. You heard the rain. You heard the call within the drops themselves, that is why you are here.”
“Are you always in the rain?”

He chuckles again but externally this time

“Heavens no child, only God is omnipresent in the rain. Occasionally however… It.. allows me to imprint my own essence into the rain instead of… It’s.. own.”
“Why do you refer to God as an it?”
“Calling God him or her or even hermaphrodite is not an entirely correct statement any which way. To do so would suggest that God comes from Gender, but rather it is Gender that comes from Source. In this way, he is both genders, and in this way, he is neither He nor she. Your language has almost no words for this due to the fact that physical nature is nearly always split into either male or female. However awkward feeling it may be to say, It is just the most appropriate adjective in your language to use. Rather than using God or Source all of the time mind you.”
“Ah I see! Please continue.”
“Gladly! As I was saying, seldom do I do this! but whenever I do, I bring with me a message. Normally I come to those who hear it in their dreams after they fall asleep, but as I said, you’re the first in nearly 2000 years. Needless to say, I was very anxious to speak with you. My apologies for the discomfort you experienced in my bringing you hear.”
“No worries, I only felt like I had died is all”

He laughed at that. I wonder if anybody else on Earth can say they made Lucifer laugh. I continue to press on.

“That all makes sense I suppose, but that still doesn’t completely explain why IM here. Why me, personally, I mean?”
“You mean other than the rain? Simple, this is how you’ve decided to receive this information”
“Well.. I don’t exactly remember signing anything..”
“Your ego had no involvement in this decision, it was one made by your higher subconscious mind. However, that does not make it any less your decision.”
“How is that possible if I wasn’t aware of the decision in the first place?”
“You were not aware simply because your ego would have only served to cloud your better judgement. You humans have been lied to, dear one, the truth is in front of your very faces but you choose to ignore it.”
“What do you mean? What truth are you speaking of?”
“The one spoken by nature itself, along with all of the messengers who have ever been sent to your planet”
“Really? Like who.”
“You know who young child! The voices of your Martin Luther King, your Abraham Lincoln, your John Lennon, your Albert Einstein, your Nicola Tesla, your Gandhi, your Muhammad, your Buddha, many, many others, and especially the essence your people call Jesus the Christ. All wonderful messengers, all with the same message. All falling on a majority of deaf ears. If following their message, you would understand that your subconscious mind is closer related to Source than your physical ego. It usually has the answer before you even begin to think of the question.”
“So what about you? Just out of curiosity, what was your message to us?”
“I did not have one, that was not my duty. My purpose to humanity was to always be the great instigator, the one who sparks. It was my presence that gave you sentients, free will, and critical thinking. It was my presence that ensured the necessary bodily sacrifice of the one you call Jesus the Christ.
“How so? I thought you were the one who attempted to sway him from God with promises of absolute wealth and control over the lives of men. But that is likely a misconception, is it not?”
“Ironically, that one is correct.”

“Your silence suggests that you do not understand. I will gladly explain. You see, I did attempt to lead the one you call Jesus the Christ astray as is stated in your peoples text known as the Bible. Contrary to a large portion of humanities beliefs however, this was only by direct order of God.”
“That seems to make even less sense.”
“Allow me to explain further. If that incarnation of Christ had succumb to my temptation, it would have meant that his Will as a human was not yet strong enough and that his inevitable sacrifice would have to be postponed. But just as it was conveyed to me by Source, his Will had held fast and did not succumb to my temptation. I was so overjoyed at this fact that I shed my guise and revealed my true essence to him, which he recognized instantly as shown with a sudden embrace. He thanked me for testing his reserve and we went on our separate ways.”
“He thanked you? AND hugged you?”
“Of course! The greatest thing one can do for another’s faith is make them question it! This alone brings to light their truest understanding of it, it shows them were they truly stand. Without the testing of his resolve, he may have never of been ready to become the Earths love guardian, and even worse, he wouldn’t have even of known until it was to late.”
“Well that’s just cool! I never really thought about it that way. But does this mean the only way for humans to know God is to know Christ?”
“So Christianity really is the one true Religion?”
“Absolutely not.”
“You’ve lost me again.”

“I’m not surprised. This is one of the biggest factors contributing to the mess you’ve currently gotten yourselves into. It is not through the man you call Jesus that you experience Godliness, but by what he embodied. What all great teachers throughout human history have embodied. To love and accept one another. To treat others the way you yourself would like to be treated. There is a reason you have deemed this as your Golden rule.”
“But you said he is the love guardian of the Earth.”
“That is correct.”
“So where does that leave the rest of the great prophets?”
“All expressions of God, just like all of life is an expression of God. The man you call Jesus was simply the highest expression of Source that had ever been conceived and was sent to be the one to convey the highest expression of love possible; selflessly giving up your life for the preservation of another. If it hadn’t of been for the man you call Jesus, Rome wouldn’t have fallen and would have destroyed humanity long ago.”
“Yes, wow indeed.”
“So why not just send another Christ? You said it yourself, humanity is on the fast path to self destruction. Why not send a higher expression of source to save us?”
“The answer is simple. The internet.”

“Really? The internet?”
“Yes, the internet. In the days of old, men like Buddha and Jesus were necessary because information was not readily available and great teachers were required to make an impact large enough to reach an appropriate amount of people so that love may be preserved. When a species first conceives of the Global mind, the begging of which you humans have deemed the internet, they have outgrown their need for a savior. In your world, the majority of the population has access to the internet in one form or another. This makes ignorance a choice, the situation you are in a choice. When all of the wisdom, all of the knowledge, from all of the greatest teachers throughout your history is available at your fingertips, nothing a new messiah could or would say would be any different or really change much. It’s all there, it’s all around you. You have all of what could ever be required for your species to not only save its planet but itself as well, you must only choose to do so. If not, your only other hope is the interruption of another species.”
“It’s nice to know that not all is lost and that really makes a lot of sense, but what chance do we have? It seems like it’s to late. My best bet is on ET, like you said.”
“It is not to late until the last of your species is dead, and believe me when I say that God would like nothing more than to see you continue to evolve, but Source will not go against the standards it itself has set to maintain order and peace throughout the Universe. If humanity was allowed to continue evolving without understanding it’s true nature, then other species would ultimately pay for the lessons humanity failed to learn. In other words, even the highest expression of Source, being source itself, will not go against natural selection. This time is your make it or break it moment, as the people of your planet say. As far as other species are concerned, there is no guarantee they will save you, and if they do, things will have to get much, much worse.”

“How much worse?”
“Are you aware of what many on your planet call the holocaust?”
“Of course I am.”
“More advanced species have been observing your planet for a very, very long time. That particular event almost gave them cause enough to step in, however once Hitler failed in Russia, they had no more purpose to. But there were many many factors at play in this decision. Seeing where your planet is at currently, the size of the population, the general passiveness to act by many of Earths citizens all coupled with the level of your technology, and of course the internet, things would have to get far more bleak than even the time of the hollocaust. It would more than likely take the biggest death toll In the history of the human race to invoke another species into saving you. You must one day learn for yourselves, you must be able to work together. You have dug this hole for yourselves despite countless warnings. Expect to make the decision to crawl out of it or expect to make it your grave”
“Well what can I do? I am just one man.”
“The worst thing to do is nothing simply because you can do little. All you can do is do what you can. Even if you exhaust yourself and lose your physical form, you will not die, none of you will die. Death is non existent, there is only change. That being said, blessed are the peace makers. Those who do good unto others will do good into themselves and obtain higher states of being, those who do wrong will do wrong into themselves and obtain lower states of being. All life is destined to rejoin God, all individual life forces are destined to evolve to that level. The speed at which you do so, the way at which you do so, and the forms you choose to do so in, are entirely up to you.”

“So I’ll continue to live on forever? And I basically determine the outcome of my life?”
“Unless you choose to cease existing, you will continue. And it is always you who is in control of your own life. There is no one way, there is no one chance, things are not that black and white. Move forward, stay stagnant, or regress. Keep evolving or allow yourself to devolve. But all will find their way back home eventually.”
“I have to say, you’ve given me a lot to think about, probably for the rest of my life. I want to share what you’ve told me with people, but if I say I learned it from you…”
“Do not use my name. It is far from being reconciled on your planet, and it may never be, but this does not matter. I have no desire for my name to be revered, only what I have given you. And do not feel as if you are alone. Many people are becoming wise to the information I have personally shared with you In our conversation, all at different times and all by different methods. If enough of you can come together and if enough of you spread your message onward, your species will survive. As long as there is at least one amongst you who thinks this way, there is hope. All is not lost until the very last of you dies, as I have said.”
“Thank you for this experience. It’s been.. something, that’s for damn sure.”
“And to you as well. I have enjoyed our conversation immensely. Thank you for listening.”
“Gladly. How do I get back home?”
“Simple, you must only hear the rain”
“But Lucifer, there isn’t any rain. Besides, you never even really told me the significance of-”

I woke up in my bed to the sound of a heavy downpour falling onto my rooftop and I couldn’t believe where I was after experiencing such an event. I was expecting to wake up on the very same stretch of sidewalk I had collapsed onto, knowing that I could never be sure if I had ever actually collapsed there in the first place. I had new memories in my head now. I had walked home from the lab just fine, saw some friends, had a meal and went to bed. As confusing as it all was, I knew it didn’t matter. Regardless of if it had been Lucifer or my subconscious self communicating with me in a dream, regardless of if it was all real or not, regardless of if he was truly good or secretly evil, it didn’t matter. What mattered was what I had learned, what I had retained, and how I would live my life from this moment on. And I only have myself to count on for that.

November 16, 2013 at 1:29 am
josephm (772) (@josephm) 7 years, 7 months ago ago


Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@josephm, Indeed words! Of which I would love if you were to take the time to read :D. Otherwise thanks for the bump!

karoucio (2) (@karoucio) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@justinc123, what inspired this story?

agentp (1) (@agentp) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

I really enjoyed the story. I have the same question as @karoucio what inspired the story ?

Dan (25) (@Dwethli) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

I loved this story! What inspired it? I was hooked from beginning to end and it has a ton of good information in it

Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

This was a good read, I’ve read something in the past they made me think Lucifer may not be a evil entity at all and only wants what’s best for humanity. People have been fed this Lucifer is evil so long that it’s completely understandable why people would dread the thought of lucifer. Hell I’d probably have the same thoughts too upon gazing at him. The bible and the church constant bombardment messages never really clicked to me, so I can completely give lucifer side of a story a chance. In the end I just know I’m a expression just like the god in the bible of the infinite creator.

I am completely optimistic about the human race for some odd reason, I have faith in humanity and I think people should be prideful of humanity coming to where it’s at now. But people are too busy conflicting with another to realize the glory of us humans. Mammals that know the physics of the universe, the beginnings of earth, and has the power to completely destroy the earth. We are gods in the perspective of lesser livings things and we have so much potential to become greater.

I like the read man.

Anonymous (291) (@) 7 years, 7 months ago ago


Reminds me a lot of Memnock the Devil.

Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@karoucio, @agentp, @dwethli, My inspiration from this story didn’t really come from particularly anything. I just though ” I want to write a short story.. Good Lucifer might be cool”. But the reason I decided to make the main character lucifer instead of maybe jesus is because nobody would expect lucifer to not only be kind and loving! but wise as well. It reflects the views of many Religious peoples thoughts towards other Religion and ignorance towards different culture in general. “The media says they’re bad, so they must be bad” sort of thing.

Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@grandkintaro777, I’m pretty much 100% with you on this friend. I to am very optimistic and confident in humanity’s capability to pull out of these disastrous times. However rather we actually do or not is a different story. But I appreciate the comments, thank you so much for reading. I’m glad you enjoyed! :)

Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@alexa, I looked into this a bit, it very much sounds like something Id like to read. Have you done so yourself?

Xcaletblink (1) (@Xcaletblink) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@grandkintaro777, Good story, sounded like a discussion in a fiction and then the point is whether cool or not as in the write-up, luci is dame intelligent and is quite good at talking lies into people’s head and causing them to believe the shit,he ‘ve done that a couple of times already and thats the reason why humanity is in jeopardy.
‘ll always remain thankful to the mighty God (Christ) who saved hamnity’s ponk ass and gave humanity another chance to dwell wiith the most high. Luci would stop until the last of our speci is damn lost in the darkness he created and there is no other way he can achieve that except by being what he is..(angel of decepsion).
The one and only true saviour of mankind is Jesus Christ the son of the true God who out of his own made man, mankind ‘ve been saved already whats left is individual salvation, now how is this possible, accept Jesus who have paid what you owe, confess ur sins and you forgiven then the holy spirit of God does the rest, luci is out to destroy mankind but to be destroyed by him is now a matter of choice, Let’s Not Be Lulled..

karoucio (2) (@karoucio) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@justinc123 are you gonna turn it into a full story/short story?

Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@xcaletblink, I agree with you only to a certain extent. I believe Christ’s sacrifice liberated the souls of men, but it just those who acknowledge said sacrifice, but all men. We have turned Christianity, a Jesus, and God, into humans. They have been given human limitations, such as having to have acknowledgement for the good we do. I’d imagine that’d if the incarnation of absolute unconditional love was told “You gotta be crucified. And only some of the Earths people will be saved. Those who don’t acknowledge your sacrifice will burn in agony and fire for all eternity.” I doubt he would believe the sacrifice worth it. I believe Christ is the kind of love that does not need to be recognized, does not need to be acknowledged. So long as he has done his part and so long as he knows what he did for the race he loves, than I believe all is well. All are saved by Christ, not just those who say thank you.

@karoucio, I mean possibly. If I am to do so, I’ll go far further into detail. Probably have lucifer take the main character on some sort of journey! that sort of thing.

Anonymous (0) (@) 7 years, 7 months ago ago


Humanity is in jeopardy because of their own collective freewill, if 1 person is out for their self preservation and greed they can effect the whole even in the smallest cases. Yet we have a number of these nuts that’s in power causing these conflicts, there’s no lucifer pulling ghost strings, it’s man in their greed. People have to stop blaming supernatural forces for the condition humanity in now and take responsibility for our state today. Humanity would be it’s salvation before some christ return phenomenon.

I don’t know Lucifer and how much a deceiver he is, but I’m not going to believe he’s the ultimate deceiver because the bible said so. The whole bible history until this day is questionable with the god of love threatening eternal damnation for those who not heed his words. That’s not love or even tough love that’s a controlling sociopath that bares no difference from being trapped in a abusive relationship. People are ignorant to exactly what love is. Love is unconditional, if you truly loved a individual the thought wouldn’t cross your mind you’d ever hurt them and you would always strive make things right to help what you love.

It’s easy for me to point the finger and use loaded words to paint my enemy as the ultimate deceiver, but in the end I truly don’t know.


You’re very right Justin, it is a different story.

I like how you pointed the kind of love done without seeking recognition or acknowledgement from it, it just done just you love the whole.

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Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@grandkintaro777, Precisely this. We cannot and should not count on anything or anyone to save u from ourselves. If Christ returns, or some supernatural figure or ET to save us, I’ll be among the first to say hallelujah. But that’s a cop out, and it’s certainly not something we should expect. If we are to evolve, things much change, or we will die. Unfortunately in this case, things are that black and white. Adapt and change things or go extinct.

Thunderfeet (161) (@thunderfeet) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@justinc123, Wow, That was absolutely brilliant. My mind is so overwhelmed right now that I can not think of an insightful response. Maybe after I reread it I will have something to add to this discussion.

Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@thunderfeet, Thank you so much for your reply and kind words! My apologies for overwhelming you friend, I hope your mind clears soon! I’m excited to hear what you’ve gained!

sian (109) (@siantastic) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@justinc123, that was really really awesome! Thank you :)

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haKaTTacK (1) (@siriusOsiris) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

I enjoyed the story and all, but from the research I’ve done, I have come to find that Lucifer is actually Christ Jesus. He calls himself lucifer, the morning star, the light bearer in the original Latin version of the Bible. I believe the Bible to be a divinely inspired work of man. It’s a metaphor for the human experience, an eclectic gathering of myths from various religions preceding it. The Trinity is a variation of the Osiris, Horus and Isis myth dating back to ancient Egypt. Osiris the Sun God being the Father, Horus the sky-god being the Son and Isis the moon Goddess the Holy Spirit, the Divine Feminine. In Gnostic Christianity is found the esoteric teachings of Christ passed down through his disciples. These teachings were deemed heretical by the Roman Catholic Church, sects of which were persecuted and killed. As a result, these mystics were forced to worship in secret. The Nag Hammadi Library discovered in 1945 shed much light on the beliefs of these practitioners, which emphasized the attainment of enlightenment through Gnosis, (knowledge) teaching the Gnostic student through a series of mysteries where they come to a higher understanding of spiritual truth. I have found these teachings to be on par with my beliefs prior to reading them, and I highly suggest anyone interested in spirituality or religion to check them out. Similar to Buddhism as well. I find these two belief systems to go hand and hand with eachother.

LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Most people confuse Luci with Satan. There is no comparison really. For me pure evil is a female force.

haKaTTacK (1) (@siriusOsiris) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

The difference between the Bible of the Roman Catholic Church is that it stresses the surrendering to Christ for salvation, whereas Gnostic Christianity stresses personal salvation through Gnosis. Jesus serves as a spiritual teacher or guide, who the Gnostic student becomes equal to upon enlightenment. He is a friend, a brother, not a deity who will condemn one to Hell for not believing in him, as the Roman Catholic Church portrays him as. In fact, Gnostic Jesus even says that there is no sin, we have created it as a product our own blindness.

i4c1m2b (70) (@i4CiM2B) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

@xcaletblink, It’s interesting that you blame all the evils in the world on Lucifer. I mean with all the evil being described in the bible I’d expect to hear more about him. Yet out of 31,000 + bible verses, only 1 mentions Lucifer, and there are less than 40 that mention the devil or Satan. If you consider only what little the bible has to say, you’ll find as much evidence to conclude that Lucifer and Satan are not one and the same as there is for those who claim they are. The devil and Satan only became popular because the catholic church decided that fear was the easiest way to control. They took a relatively insignificant character (Satan) and turned him into a massively powerful anti-God (the devil). It is your beliefs about The devil that makes him a part of YOUR life.

Justin (20) (@justinc123) 7 years, 7 months ago ago
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