Whats up with that?
I would say I have fair experience with them, but even on really powerful stuff like DMT, no visuals whatsoever. The most intense it gets for me is when my mind starts playing tricks on me. Places look different but its only because I’ve never REALLY paid attention to them, if that makes sense.
Anyone else out there like this?
Any insight? Could it be a matter of chemicals in the brain that could possibly be altered somehow or was I just born this way?
I would suggest some sensory deprivation. I had a very hard time getting opened eyed visuals, The most I ever got was brighter colors. I have learned while sitting alone in a very dark and silent room I would receive some really good closed eyed visuals and some open eyed one as well. After doing this a few times and contemplating how the visuals came on I have received some decent visuals with no sensory deprivation.
hope this helps a little and good luck
@motorik that is different because theres varying family types for different chemical forms of acid though most acid is defined by either mental or visual it’ll be one or the other. so if you dont trip, dont be nervous if it happens to be more mentally stimulating.
@panolipsist, Because dreams are a form of visuals, dreams ARE hallucinations, try getting a good sleep pattern, meditate more, and read books. Seriously, if you read books you will have more visuals, since books really help you to develop your imagination.
@thomaschong, Yes I do have dreams. Each time i’ve done DMT its been around the 50mg mark. I’ve also done Mushrooms, LSD, 5 meo dmt, 5 meo mipt, ketamine, Brugmansia (form of Datura) and DXM.
Over the weekend I did 8 tabs at once and it only played with my mind a little, in comparison to the rest of my friends who took much less and were tripping hard.
@motorik, Hooray! Thats relieving but still kinda sad :( Do you find that you also get super sensitive touch wise on LSD? Like on MDMA except i dont get that on MDMA (wut? I know right!) Seems everything affects me the total opposite of how it it affects everyone else. Beginning to question whether i’m human :P
@panolipsist, Yeah, I’m really looking forward to trying sensory deprivation. I have a good feeling it might help some. :)
@livingparadox, Try salvia, that should get you going, but next time you do dmt, get 100 mgs, get a 2 lt empty soda bottle, cut it in half, wrap tin foil around the bottom that has been cut off, place the crystals on the tin foil, make sure the cap is on, keep the lighter FAR away from the tin foil, gradually bring it closer until the bottle starts filling up with milky white smoke, unscrew the cap and inhale it all at once, if you don’t trip from that then there is no hope for you.
People who say DMT doesn’t effect them don’t do it right.
@livingparadox, Haha, aww man…. :[ I wouldn’t say sad, still pretty good trips besides that. Yes, i was dancing all night too, just like MDMA. I find both of them in some ways similar.
That’s an advantage if you ask me, what if you just think that you’re not receptive enough but really you’re just expecting something greater?
@thomaschong, I see I see. I have actually been doing the everyman sleep cycle. Naps do result in dreams but I just can not seem to hold onto them for long. Anyways back to the point…
I completely agree. I used to use a free base pipe and had a pretty good success rate with breaking through but the faygo 3 liter bottle method works everytime, and I have found I can use less spice too! It is more often the method of vaping it than the amount that leads to breakthrough or not.
dayuuum you’ve tried all those and no visuals?
Visuals to me are infinite kaleidoscopic morphing in front of me and everything else morphs with it, colors are brightened, perception of big/small keeps changing and etc. Do you get any of these? How about synesthesia, where you taste the music and see your thoughts and hear the colors? You get any of that?
I’m quite a light weight with drugs though (except alcohol), I even got slight visuals from an unknown AMT dose, everyone else took the same dose and didn’t experience any ‘visuals’. I guess each person is different.
Have you tried smoking weed during psychedelic trips? It seems to increase the visuals for me, but also makes things ‘darker’
@thomaschong, I think it’s very rare that someone might enjoy salvia visuals as they do with lsd. It’s too intense and you don’t have the control to stop and think ”Wow this is amazing” but instead, at least for me, I get pulled out of this dimension by some force and get stuck in a glitch where a female voice is echoing ”eh eh eh eh ah ah ah ah” with the volume constantly changing and I can’t even comprehend the human experience I am having. It’s interesting, but not comfortable and has different kinds of ‘visuals’ to the regular psychedelics.
@livingparadox, maybe you don’t have enough vitamin c or something? ive noticed that if i don’t take vitamin c before a trip i dont really have visuals, but when i take like 1000 mg of vitamin c or a multivitamin and then eat an orange the visuals are super vivid and its an all-around trip enhancer. try vitamins and citrus fruit before your next trip and see if that changes anything
It took me consuming the drug(s) a few times before I actually tripped off of it. Same with weed too actually. But when it finally hit me, it was worth the wait. Like someone above mentioned, you could try saliva. It’s the only psychedelic drug with a reverse tolerance.
@stefan, :O Wow lucky you! Nah, i get nothing like that, Very jealous :P
I have tried smoking pot during as well, and it seems to be responsible for most of the mindfuckery. But the most i get is when color get a little brighter (barely enough to notice though, so may just be hopeful thinking), lights become slightly bokeh like, i get really into whatever music is playing and really turned on. So its still an amazing experience, but it just has me wondering, ya know?
@thomaschong, Thanks, I’ll try that next time I get ahold of some. I’ve been looking for salvia for years now and it seems to be unattainable here in Australia :/
After reading what you said yesterday it got me curious and i decided to try some 5meodmt that i still had lying around using your vapor bottle trick. And when that didnt work at all (I realised it wasnt freebase) I tried 15mg sublingually, and that just made me feel like i’d smoked pot but without the dopiness. I was absolutely obsessed with the tin foil though, my room is now covered in foil hats haha. I know you’re not really supposed to get visuals from 5meo anyway but no rushing body high or anything, just silliness.
@motorik, Possibly, but at the same time – the way i see how it affects my friends and the way it affects me is like we’re on completely different things. I mean, they’re hallucinogens, I’m supposed to expect hallucinations! I’m not really complaining or anything, as I said its still a great experience. It’s just one of those phenomenas that makes you think whhyyyy?? ;)
@7dabs, I heard that vitamin c actually dims down or completely stops an lsd experience. I’ve been told many times that if you’re ever having a bad trip to eat an orange or drink some orange juice and that will help pull you out of it. So I dont know there
Maybe not everyone experience visuals with the same intensity?
I was just wondering the same, because with DMT I don’t get the fantastic kaleidoscopic visuals that people often talk about; I get some halucinations, like in LSD, but different.
After several trips practicing with DMT, I can say I reach the breakthrough threshold in 3-4 tokes… At the beginning I hear a loud tone, and feel a body buzz, and a head buzz, and I’m physically unable to do a further toke. Then I’m motionless astonished.
At this point, if I keep the eyes open, I look at the environment around me (my room) and it looks completely alien to me, like it’s not my room; the textures and the edges of objects are different, colors more saturated, and pattern recognition is augmented (e.g. I can see a smiley looking at some objects, but it’s just like when you say “that power outlet looks like a smiley face”), a bit like if I had 500ug of LSD, but with less distortions and a clearer mind.
If I close the eyes instead, sometimes I get not so vivid closed eye visuals (less vivid than LSD), like lucid dreaming, of simple alien geometries and spaces and agents doing something in front of me which I cannot understand.
Maybe I had higher expectations on how a DMT trip should be, because I read a lot before trying…
Anyway I can say it is still amazing this experience.
@livingparadox: don’t you get even these minor visuals in your DMT trips?
Does anyone get similar effects on DMT?