I’ve noticed a lot of posts recently about THE TRUTH!! (guns and elections and 9/11 and banking, etc.) There are plenty of forums for that on the internet. I signed up here because I am looking for other people to discuss our higher purpose, spiritual awakenings, mystical insights and big questions.
I’m not saying stick our heads in the sand. I read the Economist, watch Fareed Zakaria, talk politics and policy with my friends, campaign for my candidates, and vote. But I came here because I sensed a spirit of awe, wonder, connectedness, divine inspiration, artistry, curiosity, and questioning. Reports of maneuverings of some dark cabal are not helpful in this sphere, and generally spread FEAR rather than inspire healthy action, I believe.
We could also talk about how food is processed in industrialized countries, vaccines and herd immunity, Photoshop tips and techniques, or how to jailbreak your iPhone. But let’s not. At least not here. HE can be a respite from fear mongering, internet rumors, and trolling. We have more important things to work on here. Like love and understanding.
“I was once asked why I don’t participate in anti-war demonstrations. I said that I will never do that, but as soon as you have a pro-peace rally, I’ll be there.” -Mother Teresa
I don’t like the term conspiracy theory. We know the government lies to us, we know all war is about dying for rich mens money/power. Why do we have to coat it in “conspiracy theory”? Like that’s someone’s job. I call it how I see it, I’m no “conspiracy theorist”.
*Besides, if you think voting helps there is nothing we can do for you. The elections are rigged (remember 2012 Candidate Ron Paul? Look up his experience last year). You get two choice, and they both stink.
@sandman, roger that. I think the best thing is to just check oneself, don’t reply to topics you don’t want to talk about. Sometimes if you aren’t being conscious it’s easy to get caught up in a thread and you say to yourself as you type, hey wait…..why am i talking about this?!?
I should follow my own rules haha
PS I don’t like anything that is just fearmongering without talk of a solution, I think that stuff is halfbaked and directionless and ultimately pointless. But I do like the health tips and advice I see on here. That’s good. Establish the problem, offer the solution.
I appreciate what people are saying. I think that there is a sincere effort to help us all see the truth and warn us about machinations working against the soul of the people.
The point is I feel like a lot of that talk comes from a place of fear and victimization, and there’s very little in it that inspires positive action. It paints a picture of a world stacked against you with dark forces aligning to hurt us.
I don’t think that is a useful way to engage in the world. My family and circle of friends has always worked in education, public health, NGOs, and the arts. We are actively working to make the world a better place for its inhabitants. Teaching, healing, enlightening, inspiring. I don’t think we improve anyone’s life by making them more fearful. Good information–which is often negative, since that’s what grabs us–should lead to inspired action.
@sandman, agreed and disagreed. Let people talk about what they want. But I don’t really rate conspiracy theories because they often focus on particular pieces of evidence and ignore others and use persuasive language instead of a scientific method.
@beyond, Yes, of course. I appologize for being arrogant and not ellaborating myself – it’s just so obvious in my mind.
People are different, right – so until science or evolution says otherwise, we’ll always have different reality perceptions. This situation of a flood of theories about conspiracies let’s me to think of it this way: a) you’re wrong and the conspiracies are true, b) you’re right and the conspiracies are false, or c) you’re both right and wrong; some of the theories out there is true.
Now – it’s your reality, so figuring this out is your own responsibility and obligation – but, I would suggest looking into option “c)”, as there’s more evidence to suggest a concrete validity on this one.
I think this is pretty open minded thinking. Thanks for being aware and pointing it out, though.
@sandman, so you`re telling people what you don`t want them to talk about?
I think that overcoming fear is a spiritual feat of highest significance and that limiting yourself to your comfort zone is exactly the opposite of what this site is about.
@sandman you can always ignore the discussions you don’t want to see and be more active in ones you care about.
People normally discuss stuff that interests them. If they can’t discuss what interests them, why would they talk about stuff they don’t necessarily care for or aren’t as passionate about?
@sandman, I see many people trying to say, “dont let HE be this or that” That is why there are separate threads for separate topics. Now you could have said; lets talk about the things im into and please dont bring any conspiracy theories onto this thread. However, I dont think the creator wanted to restrict this site to any set of topics.
@sandman, No one is forcing you to click on those topics. And you’re right, fear is never helpful, but a lot of people on HE act like we live in a perfect world already. We don’t. There’s a very real possibility of total economic collapse in our life time. I think that is something to be very concerned about.
@sandman, Agreed. I’ve seen more conspiracy theories on here than need be. It really dwindles the respectability of this site and community. I mean, they’re fun concepts to talk about- but it makes the general community seem like a bunch on crazies, like my grandpa who thinks the government is building alien spaceships.
Haha But i agree. There’s so much more to discus beyond fear theories. That begin said, the occasional conspiracy theory is always nice to think about haha
@kaliholiday, sorry but let’s just correct this a bit. The conspiracy is that there is actually a government out there that is elected by the people working for the people . Reality is they are puppets working for gangsters. If you don’t believe that all effort should go towards WHY you don’t understand that.
@arahat1, Oh i believe it, i have very little faith in the government, let alone trust.
But, when i see post after post that run along the lines of “Fluoride water is being used to make our population stupider” and “Obama’s Hidden gun control policy”, it can get a bit questionable. I completely believe it is wrong to simply accept what your told by your government and so forth- but believing every member of the upper tier has an evil agenda seems a bit unrealistic as well. I guess i just have more faith in mankind haha.
@sandman, I think you have a good foundation of opinion, but I think it’s relevant if we can use our liberality of topic choice (I for one have talked food processing in industrialized country on HE many times) as a proper avenue to heighten ourselves and enrich our lives.
It is to unlearn what is the social norm slammed into our heads, to question, to rise above and not just be spoonfed information that might have been tampered with or slanted because of human opinion.
I think a wave of topics kinda sucks as the repetition kinda spams us not interested, but I think it all dies out anyway. HE is dynamic.
Remember the huge influx of DMT topics? There was even a “Is DMT becoming a cult?” type statement saying we should avoid putting it on a pedestal.
It might be annoying, but just chill. People will get bored with it eventually and it’ll die out. You can’t stop people from talking about what they wanna talk about.
@kaliholiday, ya , its to bad we didn’t have real news. All we can do is sift through the Internet . But at least we do have that because without it ,it’s 100% slant towards the “agenda” that is one world government. This topic will not go away like dmt. It’s only going to get bigger on people’s minds.
I appreciate everyone’s responses. I agree, I am happy to pass up topics that don’t interest me and let people talk about whatever interests them. I think there’s great stuff on here, so like everything else on the interwebs, just have to separate the wheat from the chaff.
nah conspiracy theories can go die in a ditch somewhere. Speak what you think.
I hate the “Oh my god did you see this?”
And then a link to an article.
That is, in other words “I am allowing this article to speak for me”.
OR it is “I can’t think for myself, please tell me how to think about this article”
It is really good to post article links and so forth, but if that is all you can accomplish with a post, and then follow up with a “Yeah I agree 100%” you aren’t thinking, and you aren’t expressing. The best way to learn is to teach.
You need to express yourself, SUPPORTED by articles and media and findings. It should not be the other way around – you find an article and then SUPPORT your own findings by that.
Further there are always 2 sides to every coin. It is good to post an article about obama’s gun control, but please, follow up with the counter argument. Things are never as simple as they seem and you learn the most when you see from multiple perspectives.
This topic is the one reason why I’m beginning to dislike this site. People aren’t questioning things enough and are going for the greatest, most intricate conspiracy theories first rather than last.