If God is the only being that actually exists…

Satyapriya (@Satyapriya) 8 years, 10 months ago

Have you ever thought about the idea that if God is the only being that actually exists how terrifying of a realization that might be for it? Maybe God was so terrified, or lonely, or bored that it chose to give itself amnesia, separate itself into endlessly reincarnating fragments, and exist within a vast illusory 3D universe within the framework of its own consciousness in order to experience love, friendship, adventure, sense pleasure, and the excitement that comes with not knowing how it all began. Thoughts?

December 2, 2013 at 3:21 pm
marcus anderson (14) (@billmasterson098) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Your telling me God was lonely then came up with all of this in it’s head?…then he forgot everything….? and came back into thought and saw us and the world…and imagined he created it himself….

if god is the only thing that exists then that would mean God is the universe…

and what difference would it make?…if god was the only thing that existed then hell yeah i approve of him feeling lonley and deciding to make a universe and his own people and show them a way to live….other then sitting alone in a void..

that being said i dont understand how we can be in Gods imagination and still think for ourselves…wouldnt our thoughts be subjective in Gods perspective, we would think kinda like he does…. hmmmmm kidan intersteing

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Stop anthropomorphisizing God.

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sian (109) (@siantastic) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@satyapriya, It’s funny you posted this just now because I was just reading about possible simulation type theories, one of the theories being that God has created a computer programme, creating this reality, and possibly many others. Imagine if we were nothing more than entertainment, just a game of sims. I guess it wouldn’t be the nicest of explanations for this universe. But the possibility of this all being for nothing is always at the back of my mind anyway. And not in a depressing way or anything. I just feel so lucky to be alive, experiencing this right now, regardless of whether it’s a one off, or infinite.

The possibility you explained though, well I think that sounds rather beautiful. I have always wondered what would happen if we suddenly had the answer tomorrow. For all of this. Now what? I almost hope that the whole point of this is a never ending quest for knowledge. So that those infinite fragments can play out for all eternity, creating every scenario or thing imaginable and unimaginable.

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sian (109) (@siantastic) 8 years, 10 months ago ago
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Benjamin (18) (@benjayk) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

God as you describe it seems to be a like a figure out of a bad horror movie. :P
I mean, I myself tend to obsessively ruminate about this kinda stuff, but let’s face it, it’s just a bunch of crazy crackpot sauce.

At the end of the day, “God” is just a concept, and a pretty vague one at that.
I can think of God as an incredibly lonely hell being that creates the world out of despair or I can think of God as my cat, or I can think of God as pure infinite goodness…
We can fantasize until we are blue in the face, it’s not like that it means anything at all.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@siantastic, Its delusional.

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sian (109) (@siantastic) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, aw crap, better go and add delusional to my list. And here in my delusion I just thought it was a bit of fun.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

We can never get past the picture of some huge bearded dude sitting on a cloud as being God. The creators of religion were smart like that.

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Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@satyapriya, God is not a being. God is

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Anonymous (13) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Even if God is, let’s say, the 11th word you’ve learned, universe – the 312th, existence – the 1016th, concept – the 1483rd, anthropomorphism – 22 584th, you still might lack having efficient vocabulary and learn nuance.

@filipek
, What if God isn’t? God might as well shouldn’t be have to be.

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Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@francis-york-morgan, Is or is not, in essence it does not matter.

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Trad (0) (@Trad) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

God? Can you be more specific?

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Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, why is it delusional? How can you possibly know enough about this to call it delusional? You can’t.

If “god is everything” and we are part of god, how does that not make sense?? When looked at from that perspective it both isn’t true, and is…. I think truth is often paradoxical, and the only ignorant positions are the ones who completely disregard certain possibilities.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@tangledupinplaid21, … Don’t anthropomorphosize God.

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Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, suck my d.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 8 years, 9 months ago ago
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Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, just wanted to return your obviously well thought out and legitimate argument with something equally legitimate.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@tangledupinplaid21, It is ingrained in humans to recognize human features. We anthropomorphosize our pets, we look for faces in randomness, we attempt to see patterns in chaos.

Our brains have so far excelled at seeing something in everything, even if what we believe to be true is an illusion.

In fact, you can’t even go to a lectureship on evolution without people anthropomorphisizing plants and bacteria; “The plant wants sunlight”.

The fact that we anthropomorphisize this paradigm that a being created all, and that he has feelings like us, thinks like us, and IS like us – the chances that we’re right about this?

Not only do we anthropomorphosize everything and anything (and thus explain why everyone thinks God is a human-like being) we can understand very little. We have countless problems with our lives, our health, our existence, to believe that we could possibly imagine God?

Plus, really? God being a human? About the most obvious delusion you can have. Wake up from being a ‘special’ human! You’re an animal!

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Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, thank you for this. :) I often have a similar argument with my best friend/roommate about whether or not animals “smile”. He says that saying they do is “assigning human features to a non-human entity”. I’ve always thought it’s obvious that animals smile. Animals show signs of defensiveness, excitement, jealousy, etc. Plants show signs of “preferring” sunlight. They stretch toward it, they thrive with it and die without it. Is that not a “need” or a “preference” or a “wanting”? Why isn’t it? It’s all fuckin’ semantics.

Do you think there’s any truth to the statement, “as above, so below”? that there are overlapping qualities in the macro and mirco levels of the universe or our reality? like I was saying before, if we are a part of “everything”(which is sometimes referred to as “god”), why is it a stretch to say god has human-like qualities? Obviously god has human like qualities or we wouldn’t be here. It’s both true and untrue. I think whatever the whole consists of is so far beyond our capacity to imagine, that it’s 100% impossible to say… but anthropomorphizing doesn’t seem ludicrous to me since we humans are part of the whole,
I don’t think people were saying god is a human, I think they were saying he/she/IT has the capacity to feel things, which to me is obviously true because you and I feel things.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@tangledupinplaid21, “Obviously god has human like qualities or we wouldn’t be here.”

In the most literal sense, if God created everything and is everything, then yeah.

But to imagine him a sole being, a single entity, a single idea… I believe I’d be fooling myself.

I don’t think that God is separate from everything, and therefore does not have separate feelings from us.

I see it a lot on this site:
“We’re all God” but then what follows is a complete separation, isolation and anthropomorphosization of God.

It screams irony and hypocrisy. “I’m totally a hippy like you guys, but I haven’t really understood anything you said yet!”

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Psychonaut (133) (@psychonaut) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@satyapriya, How can God exist if there is no contrast for Him? You cannot have a totality or unity with a singularity. You need at least a duality to create contrast. The moment God is reached, God ceases to exist.

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Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, that’s because it’s true AND it isn’t, depending on the way you are looking at it! Why does truth have to be black or white? That is a severe parochialism. Truth is paradoxical, and relative.

and I have to lol that you just referred to god as “him” and also agreed with what you initially were contesting.

Can we all just fucking admit that we just don’t know what is going on on the macro level of the universe? or whether there even IS a macro level? It’s almost funny to even argue about it. We all get so high and mighty about defending ideas and forget that our brains are not even capable of contemplating infinity. hahahahaha

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Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@psychonaut, Now that’s a new one. I like it.

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Anonymous (13) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, Here, goddie, goddie, goddie.

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