If no charges are filed on the LAPD will you people complaining about conspiracy

Anonymous (@) 9 years, 2 months ago

Will you people comlainin about “conspiracy nuts”, or conspiracy theorist start coming around? Cops say “BURN THE PLACE DOWN”. Yeah burn the guy alive without due process. Free country, you have rights, innocent until proven guilty in the court of law yada yada yada… BULLSHIT! Then why were they burning this guy alive.

Question authority! Question everything!

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Anonymous (512) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, Man…I had been following this story to a tee…and for it to end like that…just…wow. I guarantee none of this will ever be talked about again. It’d be detrimental to the cops.

Oh, and fuck the media as well, as per usual.

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@optimystic, “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

It’s horrible how naive some of these people are, even on these forums. I just have a feeling it all wasn’t told and it all won’t be told. They label the guy as a killer, yet when faced with the opprotunity, he allows the civilians to walk. He had a kill list. He wasn’t just killing innocent folk.

Know a place online where I can find a better view of the story? Like you said, the media is trash.

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Anonymous (512) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, Have you read the manifesto?

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

Thank you, just read it. Fuck the rat bastards of the LAPD. It’s a shame a hero as Dorner had to go out the way he did. But I’m proud he had the honor to stand up for what he believed it, to die for what he believed in. The man is a true hero in every sense of the word.

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MarkII (71) (@mwinship13) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

Here’s the manifesto for anyone who hasn’t read it.
http://atltomgirl.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/christopher-dorner-manifesto-unedited/

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Mosesonator (52) (@mosesonator) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

He also considered himself a whistle blower, didn’t he? add it to the list..

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Alex (345) (@staylucky) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, “He wasn’t just killing innocent folk.”

Not entirely true. He killed family members of people he was after. They were innocent.

I agree though. The LAPD needs to be under the spotlight after all of this.

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, You kill a cop and you don’t have rights anymore.

Thats not a conspiracy.

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, That’s illegal and unconstitutional. In the USA you do still have rights. You have the right to a trail, the cops took the law in their own hands, filthy pigs. Besides, what makes the cops life more valuable than any of our own?

Besides, the cops he killed deserved it. Wish he would have taken more of the rat bastards. *And no I’m not saying all cops are rat bastards. Some are. Dorner was a good man in my book, I’d trust his character judgement, even if he went batshit at the end. I’d like to believe he took the corrupt fucks he mentioned in his manifesto, and left the good law abiding men of dignity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

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ELizard (229) (@heavydreamz) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, he could have easily been set up. maybe because he was a whistle blower. thats why you are innocent until proven guilty in this country.

‘ooh he killed a cop then he deserves to die, good for the police for taking him out’

this is a police state mentality. this is the kind of manipulation used by the nazi’s to turn people on each other and murder millions. we must keep the liberty to protect freedom. it must be protected.

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smalls (68) (@smalls) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, I’m curious, where are you getting all of this inside information? “the cops he killed deserved it.” So all somebody has to do is write a manifesto and you’ll just swallow whatever is in it? You seem to be very concerned about his rights, what about the rights of the people he killed? The guy may have had some points, he may have been wronged, but the minute he decided to murder people to get his point across he lost all credibility. You cry foul, but if you could watch all of it unfold and think that it would end any other way than it did then you’re delusional. The guy murdered people, including innocents, and declared war on the LAPD. There was only 1 way that was ever going to end… and that’s the way that it did.

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@smalls, Just saying the opposite of what the media is saying, because the mainstream media is complete horseshit. Someone needs to bring up the other end of the spectrum.

Surely you’re sick of people talking about this case regurgitate “facts” from ‘faux’. People need to take into account these people might be lying.

I’m really sick at how the LAPD isn’t being investigated despite clearly not following procedure. Of course we all know the rat bastards are corrupt as fuck, and nobody does anything about it.

Besides, the cops these days have way more power than the founders of this country intended. We are living in a police state, something that describes a Orwell novel better than what our founding fathers envisioned.

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smalls (68) (@smalls) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, I get that, I’m just advocating distancing yourself from either side. From where I’m sitting I find it equally likely that he was wrongfully terminated, as it is that he was legitimately fired and just snapped. But whatever the truth may be, doesn’t change the fact that he went about getting his story out in the worst way possible (assuming that his purpose was to get his story heard and unveil corruption). If his purpose was to just take out a few cops and die in a blaze of ‘glory,’ then I guess he accomplished that. Truth is, we’ll probably never know the truth about what really happened.

My point was simply that it seems ridiculous to cry foul over his rights being violated, and not at least acknowledge that he didn’t give his victims the same rights.
Police state and corruption, that’s another discussion

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@heavydreamz, Definately. The powers that be are using the same tactics Hitler mastered in the 40’s. Taking one freedom at a time. When they get the guns, it’s game over. Population control via concentration camps becomes a real possibility.

Like the Drone too. Listening to the powers talk about this shit…
“There are no Drones”
‘The government have already confirmed drones’
“I was ordered not to reveal that information”

Give me a fucking break.

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@smalls, Until the people start fighting back, the shit won’t change. I would prefer people become more radical. This generation is the biggest bunch of damn pussies. You could line the bastards up and tell them “we are going to have to execute you and your family” and they’d be all “I didn’t do anything!” and the authorities would say “I’m just following orders”, and they’d let them kill them without a fight.

You think the counterculture from the 60’s would have taken the big red/white/blue cock right up the ass? Fuck no. We are smarter than them, we have more tools. We could end it if we weren’t such pussies. The facts are clearly in our favor.

Remember that Patrick Henry quote? “Give me liberty or give me death!” All I have to say is, “damn right”.

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ELizard (229) (@heavydreamz) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, call me a conspiracy theorist. I can see the dark reality behind what is happening in the world. its quite obvious looking at how fucked our world is in every corner. this kind of shit we are seeing in the media is all a stunt. if they thought that we would walk a straight line into a concentration camp we would be on our way right now.
the biggest obstacle ‘they’ face is that ‘we the people’ still ‘think’ we have freedom, the right to live, even though these ‘rights’, this mindset every person on the planet feels entitled, has been tactfully broken down behind the scenes for the past 100 years especially. we live in feudalist society today.. look around. the second they feel they have to power to to take away our freedoms completely without us putting up too much of a fight they will. lets wake the fuck up and stop blaming individuals for their crimes and learn to focus on the way society is disabling people, breeding people to go insane, with no other choice. the structure needs to change.

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ELizard (229) (@heavydreamz) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, we dont need to fight back, we need to not participate in their game.

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smalls (68) (@smalls) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, Maybe I just haven’t seen the shit you’ve seen… but it seems to me that the people that are upset about the system are the ones who are trying to fit in the system and are failing. You don’t need a coup d’état, a violent revolution. Maybe I feel this way because I’ve never been stopped from doing something that I wanted to do. But if you’re looking for another answer, try showing the government that you don’t need them. Take care of your body and you won’t need their healthcare, live peacefully and you won’t need their protection, things like that. Take all of that energy that everyone was going to put into a violent revolt, and make them obsolete. What would happen if everyone stopped going to work? If we stopped spending money, and using credit? It would all collapse! We think they’re exploiting us, but it couldn’t be farther from the truth, WE’RE PROPPING THEM UP! We are the only thing holding them up, step away, and they’ll come crumbling down.

Granted, that’s all much easier said than done. but fuck… gotta start somewhere

@heavydreamz, Ok that’s basically what I was getting at, you just said it in many less words than I.

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@heavydreamz, That’s not even an option. They force you to play, just like the Germans. Raid your home with several armed men, because you have grass. It’s Germany man.. And Nixon can kiss my ass for starting it this civil war and putting us billions in debt. Maybe the DEA can all go find honest work one day.

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@smalls, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ4sqrVmqi8

You haven’t seen the shit I’ve seen? It’s because you were brought up in a corrupt world and that’s all you know. Look around you, read the consitution. This isn’t the way shit’s meant to be run. Then read Brave New World or 1984 by Huxley and Orwell.

Google the CIA selling heroin. The whole DEA thing is a drug monopoly. The data is there, and it’s all on the net. Just gotta research it.

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smalls (68) (@smalls) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, I know a little about the corrupt world we all live in, but that’s mainly because I care very little. If you don’t like the system, get out of the system. If you think it’s not possible, you’re not trying hard enough. I’ve read Brave New World and 1984, good reads. You say this isn’t the way shit’s supposed to be, I say bullshit, this is exactly the way it’s meant to be. I don’t see how any form of government can end up anywhere but here. This isn’t new. Nothing that’s happening right now hasn’t happened before. To me, this is the end state of government. It’s why all revolutions fail, because they rise up, overthrow their government and then what? They replace it with their own GOVERNMENT! The problem wasn’t the old government, it IS government. You give people power and they want to extend it, how do they extend it? By maximizing it. I don’t see it being any other way. But unfortunately humanity has a long way to go before we’re ready to have no government.

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

So cops burning a man alive without due process is intended? The first amendment rights no longer being enforced is the way it’s meant to be? Illegal wars in countries over oil? (the lives of Americans and innocent Iraqi’s are taken for this shit and you care little? That disgusts me.) Armed Drones? UAV’s on American soil? Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

I think it was George Washington who said “There needs to be a revolution every 100 years”. We are long overdue. And now, protesting is essentially illegal.

**I never said anything about no government, I said follow the constitution. Stop the illegal wars. Follow due process and the bill of rights. I like what our country was meant to be, before it was hijacked by war mongerers.

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@smalls, Besides this government we have now is FOUNDED on a revolution. We revolted from the British remember that?

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smalls (68) (@smalls) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, I guess I don’t know what started the fire, tear gas canister is what I heard, but either way that was never going to end with him in custody. Unfortunate, but it happened. Have there been drone strikes on American soil? That’s a legit question, I can’t find anything. Getting a drone strike in another country is a bitch of a process, I can only imagine what it would be like to get the ok here. The Iraq war was bad, I’ll give you that, well war in general is bad. But there’s no oil in Afghanistan, and there’s a lot more people that want us there than in Iraq. I’m just curious about what you want to happen then. Writing on the internet is fun, but if you want a revolution, pick up a fucking pitchfork. Go get it done, but you are accomplishing next to nothing by writing about it. But once you go all revolutionary, and assuming your cause succeeds… then what?

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smalls (68) (@smalls) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, Yeah and look how that turned out! What side are you arguing? because that sounds exactly like a point I made a post or 2 ago. A government gets too big for its britches, the people revolt and supplant new government… Rinse, repeat.

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