What IS the point of this ridiculously elaborated type thing called existence? Do species/humankind get anything from pretending the Universe isn’t just gonna collapse onto itself some billion years from now?
Just a thought worth spreading, I think. Not for the sake of being a fatalist, just a friendly reminder not to take anything too seriously. Plus, I’d like to get some opinions up in here!
If you don’t take anything too seriously, is it worthwhile?
I have been struggling with this very question (must be my mid-life crisis kicking in). There are really two questions, is anything worthwhile to YOU (“you” meaning, each of us, the individual) and is anything worthwhile as a whole (meaning the bigger picture, life, the universe and everything). I agree with some of the other respondents, in that you have to make your life worthwhile to yourself. Find your passion and follow it (I know, easier said than done right?). Life is worth living if you make it so. As far as the bigger picture. We may never find out the answer. Why are we here? What is the meaning of it all? In the end, does it really matter? I mean, you’re here. I’m here. We have a life for the moment. I guess we need to figure out a way to make it as enjoyable as we can, or as meaningful as we can. That meaning can be different for each person and that meaning can change from one moment to the next.
@optimystic, Agreed. It is definetely not utterly necessary for a point to exist, but one of the points(heh) i’m trying to make is: What then comes to replace that point/meaning, if in the end this is all we’ve got? Isn’t a pointless existence well…pointless??
We don’t know if the universe is going to collapse. What we do know is that we don’t know everything. If we don’t know everything, we don’t know how much we can do or what, precisely, is “worthwhile”. What we do know is that trying to learn more could be worthwhile. Instinctively, it seems to be as well, and thus we have a drive that leads us away from nothingness and stagnation to something and effort.
In other words, we know that nothingness and stagnation is not worthwhile. Therefore we should try to find out what is, and thus the act of trying has worth.
I tend to believe that if there is a purpose in life, it must be to understand. Understand as much as you can about the universe, because life is the means by which the universe understands itself. (That old Brian Cox quote) I interpret that to mean that we shouldn’t really LOOK FOR purpose. We should GIVE things purpose.
Also, I dislike John Green’s books but he said something I really liked. “What is the meaning of life? Mostly listening, some jokes.”
@mikem, your body rejects the pain you endure while doing sports, and that doesnt stop you from doing them does it ? Perhaps what we need is everyone to stand still for as long as they can? though it would be a bit funny, with people twitching everywhere after a while :)
Ah, don’t make “serious”, don’t make “worthwhile”… don’t make anything. All just is.
Oh, and pardon me while I just go jump off of a cliff…………. damn! There aren’t any cliffs around here.
“As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.” – Jung
If one wants to step back from it all, then yes, it seems nothing really is worthwhile. But that is the point that you must infuse your own point into that blank reality, shaping it and molding it until it becomes worthy to you
I totally agree. Lately I’ve taken things a lot less seriously because I realized, not in a sad/pessimistic way, that one day we will all be dead and none of this will matter, whether it be good or bad. The most entertaining and fulfilling thing I can enjoy any longer has become learning, and loving. I like to learn things that are meaningful and apply them to life in an effort to making life easier and more efficient.
@giraffe, I believe happiness is an choice, and matter of perspective not a tangible object that you can only receive based on exterior circumstance. I believe very few men are bound to a life of misery, although many, many more do choose it.
Of course you can bring up starving children in Africa, (although I’ve seen many of those appear happy than many people in the west who live lives of absolute luxury in comparison) and if we want be really extreme we can start talking about the holocaust, in which case, you’re right.
However, I did miss something. The other purpose in life, I believe, is service to others. If you have served others in your life then it will have always had purpose.
Otherwise, if you’ve lived a life, not enjoyed it, and helped no one, then yes, your life has probably been pointless for anything other than the experience of being miserable and probably lonely. But at least it’s an experience, I guess.
@klasy, i don’t believe we have a preset purpose, but where we choose to apply ourselves and make change, there is always meaning in that. i believe we create our own destiny by choosing our path and our actions, even our thoughts.
destiny > meaning > purpose