Is it always "I' or "WE"?

 LostSoul (@Lostcivilization)6 years, 6 months ago

Religion says …all the power lies within yourself ,its always I,you have the power to transform and control every situation in your life.You are important,your existence is important.Nothing else matters. Science says,the reverse.Its WE ,who can transform,humans are a collective of millions and billions of cells that has combined and given an body…all organs work together..Nature works collectively.Universe is made up of billions of stars and galaxies.Its never I…its always WE……a collective effort. How do u intepret that philosophy in life?In Love?in Relationships?Is it I or WE?

December 1, 2014 at 12:47 pm
Will (27) (@TheBigElectron) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

I don’t understand what you’re asking. You say “Is it I or WE?” – what is “it” in that sentence?

My best guess is that you are asking: “In making decisions, should I consider only myself (‘I’), or should I consider only my community (‘we’)?”

My response to that question is that it is a false dichotomy; in other words, you’re presenting the options as either black or white, when really there are a whole spectrum of choices.

In any social or relationship context, you’ve got an “I,” a “you,” and a “we.” An optimal experience is achieved by all parties taking a roughly-equal interest in all 3 of these factors.

You can’t neglect “I,” or else “we” will suffer. To illustrate, imagine a tribal society, like the Aborigines. Suppose that one of the hunters in this society decides to neglect “I” and only pay attention to “we.” He reasons that, if he does not eat the meat of any of the animals he hunts, then there will be more meat to go around for the rest of the community. He refuses to eat, gives away all his food to the community, and soon becomes too weak to continue hunting. The community then suffers because he is no longer able to hunt at all, thus, the net effect is less meat for everyone – both “I” and “we” will suffer from the hunter’s self-neglect.

Likewise, if you neglect “we,” then “I” will also suffer. Suppose that the hunter does this by selfishly hoarding all the meat from his kills for himself. His community sees this, and many of its members start to lose their respect for him. They may shame him for his selfish behavior, which is painful for him. The community will eventually ostracize him, and thus deprive him of all the benefits of being part of the community – his odds of survival will then be dramatically reduced, and his odds of reproducing will be all but wiped out.

The point is, both “I” and “we” (and also “you”) are important. Nothing can be neglected or favored.

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LostSoul (6) (@Lostcivilization) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

thanks for your reply.pleased to read through.what i meant is ppl say one should always concentrate on uplifting oneself ,put one’s desires,aspirations first before others…and thats what some religions too preach,………………but when we concentrate much on us,we forget the rest,what they value,what they want,…………so was thinking,what is true………ultimately its our life and we should lead that way to make ourselves happy and not others,…Christ was crucified because he put others before himself.………so which is the right way………to put others before u in a relationship or just u………?

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

I=WE
WE=I

that whole problem is gone now.

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LostSoul (6) (@Lostcivilization) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

haha…:),nice reply

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Anonymous (17) (@) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

We is generalizing and I is self-generalizing. They’re both unreliable in their own way.

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LostSoul (6) (@Lostcivilization) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

right u arr

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lifegamer (28) (@lifegamer) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Namaste’, LostSoul…Really good ponder to present! Here’s my mpo:

First…First Thought (‘God’ voice within, Soul Sounds, Inner voice, etc.) comes most clearly during Experience, and most dimly through Written Words…Listen as you choose.

With that in Mind, I & WE are same thing…It’s simply about proportion. Life is All There Is, All are parts of Life…WE are parts of All, I’s are parts of WE, See? Same stuff, different package deals…Individuations of the One Siingularity…Life. Power-packed Circle, yes? :)

Sooo, with That in Mind, take the Amazingly power-packed Experience, called ‘Freedom’, & give ‘It’ to your ‘Self’…as well, give ‘It’ to every Form of Being you encounter, Everywhere, Earth. This is how to Know oneself as ‘God’…This is where Understanding of ‘where Life’s Source is coming from’, comes from…This is Knowing one as One.

Aaand, with All That in Mind, question every prior assumption, written or otherwise, that has or is given to you, through First Thought. Compare with both your prior Experience, & the ones after having put Freedom into gear. Choose of this compilation what feels good in Your picture of ‘Good Life’…Make this artwork no less than Amazing. Now share ‘It’! Power-packed Circle, yes? :D
(Now take all the ‘ ‘ words & change them to ‘Love’/’God’/’Life’…See? All same stuff.))

Happy Beingness, Sweetness!!!
Favorite quote: “Freedom is the grandest gift of Love, and Love always (& all ways) seeks to give the grandest gift.” <3

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LostSoul (6) (@Lostcivilization) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

beautiful!!!

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lifegamer (28) (@lifegamer) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

Thanks, LS…You were the inspiration! <3

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

The “I” is the consciousness, not the cell. Your body consists of myriads of cells, but you have only one consciousness, one source of will and desire, one thinking mind.
That’s what makes the “I”.

Humans are not one big mass of beingness, we’re billions of individuals. We’re not organs in a body, we’re bodies in a world. Everyone has a will of their own, senses of their own, thoughts of their own.

The more conscious the human, the more independent it becomes.
Groupthink only works for the unconscious, feeble and fearful. While many live under the delusion that a unification and redistribution of humans into a bigger structure seems like a good thing, it’s the worst thing that could happen. It’s like a virus, not like human beings, and everything they touch turns to shit.

You have a brain for a reason.

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Achyut ram (125) (@achyutram) 6 years, 6 months ago ago

I don’t know if this is germane, There’s an African Proverb..
“If you want to go fast go alone, If you want to go far go together.”

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