Is it possible to have a constant feeling of bliss/happiness/peace/joy?
Thoughts are not ours, and they come and go, both good and bad ones. When we allow our thoughts to be our master, we suffer.
My question really is – do bad feelings and negative states arise even when we are constantly doing things to make us stay in the moment/transcend thought/ etc?
I have a hard time articulating this so hopefully someone knows what I mean.
@qwuakeup, I think its possible, I was on he bus the other day and realized I havent been in a negative state for quite a while, I think its all in your mindset and how you choose to react to problems, doing things to keep you in the moment is also a great way
@qwuakeup, constantly doing things (nothing wrong with doing, unless its coming from a place of separation) is actually what keeps us from seeing things as they are in the moment. We are always in the moment, we just need to pay attention.
You’ll never be blissed out in the world. The world is full of duality. Its when we realize our true nature when we don’t need to feel happy all of the time because we realize the nature of emotions. then we become rooted in stability and peace on a whole other level that is inconceivable by the mind. its the presence of being.
I hope this is clear for you. cheers :)
@qwuakeup, It is only possible when you detach from our emotions and get rid of all subjective feelings and emotions. Basically this is what enlightenment is all about: you totally accept reality as it is, at any given point in time.
My answer: not it is not possible for a normal human being.
@qwuakeup, It’s totally possible learn to control your mind. Meditation really helps with noticing the thoughts that enter your mind before they effect you. I very rarely feel negative thoughts and when I do it doesn’t last long. So yes it’s very possible you just have to really want it like anything else.
I vote no.
I have a brain full of responses for this, but I don’t think I want to express them all.
For 1, you learn the most when you feel down.
For another, you cannot ATTEMPT to do this, attempting to be happy all the time will backfire. It is something that will just come. Any resistance to sadness or anger will diminish your ability to ‘get there’.
I think South park had a great episode though, and Stan explained it like this;
You should be glad you can feel such intense feelings such as depression, rage, and aloneness. They are so extreme and so far from complacency that they are beautiful in themselves (probably not verbatim, but something similar).
@ijesuschrist, I feel that I learn the most when I’m down, and I could also learn the most when I’m feeling ecstatic.
I’m not so much talking about ‘trying’ to be happy, or attempting to feel good all the time – but maybe theres a way we can peel back the layers of the onion which is blocking this happiness.
So rather then trying to be happy, we allow happiness to come through us by simply not blockng it off.
Great discussions by the way guys, keep them coming.
@qwuakeup, Its not possible to be happy all the time , but it is possible to accept happiness and sadness with joy , knowing that those are all beautiful things that you HAVE to go by. Without sad moments , there would be no happy moments. The beauty of LIFE is that we can live all those moments , even happiness can become a boring thing. What i’m trying to say is , accept happiness and accept sadness , equalize them , and them transcend them, they will just disappear , and you will do just like the band Queens of The Stone Age say “Go with The Flow”. (easier said than done)
@qwuakeup, Perhaps you read my blog post?
@buanaoda, awesome response man this was what I was looking for – it kind of all makes sense now.
So what is the difference between joy and happiness? When we feel joy, is it still a positive feeling or can joy sometimes accompany negative experiences?
What I mean is that does joy mean the release of oxytoxin/serotonin/dopamine ( whatever it is that produces positive feelings) or can it be there whilst we release whatever causes negative feelings?
@qwuakeup, I can tell you my own experiences , sometimes when im not conscious and acting like a robot and i get sad , i become sadness , but when you are conscious i mean awake, alert , when sadness come , it just becomes a little weird to look at it. like you are not sadness you are something else looking your sadness from outside , from this perspective it just seem like a silly thing. Remember this , when you fight against something it just become stronger and stronger. Look at the war against drugs for example. The sadness will come , i guarantee that. You asked about the joy , i cant really explain in words , for example , the other day i was walking in the street , i just got home from Rio de Janeiro to a little town here in Brazil , and i was listening to a song , and i looked at a tree , it was just so perfect and beautiful with all its imperfections , that i couldn’t contain a weird energy inside of me. joy is just being able to appreciate what this weird experience called LIFE can give us. I think if there is a GOD and he is just complete , he wishes that he could come to earth and feel something more than just Awesomeness , he would wish to fell fear , anger , Happiness , and sadness I think i said too much xD
@qwuakeup , i very much DO think it IS possible. Those who say otherwise and believe it’s “unrealistic” are in my best wishes to understand what i know. Many people live in constant bliss. I can be exhibit A. Yes, it is true bad things happen in the world. Yes, there are shootings and wars and natural disasters, economic melt downs and all that crap. However it does not interfere with my personal happiness. How could it? Those are simply events in my human experience! Instead of focusing on the negative facts of these shootings/ destructive hurricanes, tornadoes or whatever example others can or have used, i see how i can help the cause and provide people with comfort and happiness. There is so much to give, and an endless supply. If you find the root of happiness (within your actual self, soul, ) then you can see that you are a glass completely full of happiness. You ARE happiness…. how can you not feel it constantly? Regardless of the outside world and its chaotic self, you can be happy constantly. Message me or whatever if you want to talk more, my friends and I discuss things like these often. It would be nice to hear back!
i wish you peace, love, and clarity
@lectra, @beyond, It’s easy to make yourself/your arugment sound smarter by attacking others – but it causes the other person to be in fear and question the next thing they say. It limits expression and creativity. Look up Ad Hominem.
The human brain may not be for one constant emotion – but what if we go beyond the brain and the mind? Another dimension of emotions – one that isn’t connected to the circumstances of what happens on the external world – but just simply in awareness and joy as @buanaoda says.