Is Reality Real?

 alexteale (@aschroeder0)8 years, 3 months ago

So far, science has proven there to be one world with life on it. However, in that world, there are countless living beings. Each individual being has his/her/its own perspective and his/her/its life progressing every day, every hour, every minute, and every second. There are millions of lives living right now!

Each being also has his/her/its own perspective. I have come to understand that perspective is created by experience. Since we were born, our experiences form a filter in front of our view of life. How one event occurs is viewed completely differently by each individual. Therefore, it seems as though one event turns into as many events as there were living beings witnessing it. Each being’s perception of the event is different. No one being can really live in another being’s “shoes”, as so many say because every being has a unique filter through which the events of life are perceived.

This thought just made me question reality. Is there a reality? If so, how can we tell? We are all biased in our thoughts of reality. I suppose only God knows what is real-what really happens. How do you feel about this? Do you agree? Do you disagree? I’d like to discuss this. It is just such a crazy notion, but it seems legitimate. Let me know!

July 1, 2013 at 3:11 pm
Anonymous (68) (@) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@aschroeder0, since you exist there must be something and that is reality. maybe we cant tell how exactly does it look but you cant denie its existence :P

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Cody (472) (@versai) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

I was thinking about this topic while on LSD the other night. Reality seemed so different, almost boring compared to what I was experiencing that night. True every person perceives reality differently, but when you take mental illness or psychedelics into account, reality is more strange than we could imagine! Different states of awareness such as schizophrenia or downs syndrome would give some very unique insight on “reality”, I’m sure.

Anyway on the LSD trip I was listening to an album that I had heard a few times before. Only this time it sounded SO FUCKING GOOD, like there were extra instruments and harmonies added that I never noticed before, or rather, were magically injected into reality for that moment only. When you begin to notice tiny differences, synchronicities, enhancements… the idea of reality becomes a lot more flexible. I was so awestruck by my thought processes that night that I definitely believe it’s a possibility that we’re all collectively conjuring reality like a dream woven through time.

Physics seem so physical and unchanging, but more every day we’re manipulating what was previously thought impossible. I think we’re advancing toward an age where reality is as fruitful and limitless as our dreams.

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dstreets (2) (@dstreets) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Yamaoka Tesshu, as a young student of Zen, visited one master after another. He called upon Dokuon of Shokoku.

Desiring to show his attainment, he said: “The mind, Buddha, and sentient beings, after all, do not exist. The true nature of phenomena is emptiness. There is no relaization, no delusion, no sage, no mediocrity. There is no giving and nothing to be received.”

Dokuon, who was smoking quietly, said nothing. Suddenly he whacked Yamaoka with his bamboo pipe. This made the youth quite angry.

“If nothing exists,” inquired Dokuon, “where did this anger come from?”

http://www.ashidakim.com/zenkoans/82nothingexists.html

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Anonymous (3) (@) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

There is only television and the internet.

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alexteale (2) (@aschroeder0) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@bono95zg, This is a page I found when looking up ideas similar to the one I have. Look at specifically number seven and ten.

http://www.learning-mind.com/10-mind-blowing-theories-that-will-change-your-perception-of-the-world/

I know there must be a reality because that is the realm in which events occur. However, I don’t believe that any of us really know what reality is. I suppose reality is real. None of us experience its purity, though.

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gautam (4) (@connexion) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

For me reality is whatever I see. Whatever I interact. It is reality.

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Cosmic (79) (@cosmicd46) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@aschroeder0,

In my opinion, there’s an unattainable, objective reality and an infinite number of subjective realities. Each unique subjective reality is created by an individual being and is in line with their personal preferences, experiences and knowledge.

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alexteale (2) (@aschroeder0) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@versai, I have never dabbled in psychedelics, but I have had moderate-severe depression. It is definitely true that mental illness has an effect on our perception of reality. Psychologists even say that those with depression have a more realistic view of reality. Here is an in-depth explanation: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hide-and-seek/201206/depressive-realism

It is also true that drugs will alter the “filter” through which we perceive life. The altered filter shows reality in different shades. We discover things we have never noticed before and notice things that were always there in front of us, but just never acknowledged. However, I don’t believe reality can be “flexible”, as you said. Reality, I believe, is fact. Our perceptions of reality, of course, are different than anyone elses, making reality seem flexible. Since I don’t think any of us really experience the real reality, I could very well be wrong. It is just what I think. I do like what you said about “collectively conjuring reality like a dream woven through time”. That is really poetic and it gives me another idea to think about.

What you said about “manipulating what was previously thought impossible” makes me think that is simply our imagination. Our imaginations are what take us to that other level beyond reality. I have to agree, though, that our imaginations are what take the world places. It is the basis for all inventions and ideas.

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alexteale (2) (@aschroeder0) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@connexion, Exactly. It is your reality. Everyone has their own reality. But what defines the real reality in which events occur without all the bias we give it? Is it simply fact?

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alexteale (2) (@aschroeder0) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@cosmicd46, I couldn’t have said it better. It’s just crazy to think that no one really experiences the true reality.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@aschroeder0,

there is a physical reality, one that we can interact with, and a mental reality, the perspective, the perspective can change how we perceive the physical reality (“That cliff doesn’t look that high”) and can compel us to re-arrange how we perceive the physical reality (“Since i do not believe the cliff is that high, i am going to jump”) but the perspective cannot, on its own, change the physical reality (“Geeerrroonniiiimmmooooooo [SPLAT!] “)

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@aschroeder0,

i think reality is a word meant for more than one category, because the perspective’s reality can seem just as real as the physical reality to the individual experiencing it. your question seemed to be about the physical reality, and i would say yes, there is definitely a physical reality, how can we tell? ( “[SPLAT!]” )

the goal to perceiving ‘better’ or even, ‘gooder’, or, the ultimate, ‘goody-ier’, is learning to separate your perspective from the physical reality, what is my perspective? “know thyself”, for once you know thyself the separation becomes easy and obvious truths that once alluded you become clear.

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Nah definitely fake.

If you want ‘real’ reality you have to pay a monthly subscription.

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Ben (231)M (@benjamin) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Check out “Do We Need ‘A’ Reality?” by Carl Rogers. I read it as an article for one of my classes, but I guess it’s in audio here:
http://www.carlrogers.info/audio.html
(I haven’t listened to this audio, but I’m sure it’s about the same point)
Carl’s got great great insights on this.

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emptyminded (68) (@thoughtless) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@aschroeder0, the idea of 1 true reality to me is false. every conscious being experience its own reality as you mentioned. However the thoughts contain in a conscious being’s mind help to shape this collective reality we are all experiencing. As im typing this to you its just my selective view on this collective reality (perspective). as for the part you mentioned about the singularity, his true reality would have to be absolute nothingness or else he would just fall into a category of a higher being experiencing his own reality (causal loop theory).

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@versai, The Mars Volta while on LSD is something quite special. I thought I was aware of most of the nuances in their music. Then I took LSD and listened to them.

It was liked getting fucked by a rainbow.

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gautam (4) (@connexion) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@aschroeder0, Exactly, what I mean is, whatever I see, perceive and understand is my reality. That is the real world for me. Whatever happens outside my knowledge, I have no knowledge of and hence is unreal.

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think,think,tttthhhhiiinnnk (0) (@insaneaditya) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

reality doesnt make any sense , everything in this whole universe sums up to zero , it means this is all an illusion in a big nothingness.

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Anonymous (2) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@aschroeder0, There is no real way of knowing really, which is quite depressing. What we percieve versus what makes up most of the universe is nothing compared. Many philosophies and religions have tried to explain with none coming up with a satisfacotry answer to everybody that’s why there is conflict between religions. This is the big question man has been trying to answer for years. There is no real way of knowing in life and there is no certain way of knowing if we will know in death. Plus, there is different ideas of reality. What we can percieve and what we know exists. It might not even be possible to know and if we can this will be the most enlightened human beings have ever been and probably can be.

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secretagentpeter (81) (@secretagentpeter) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

We all choose our own realities and blindly or knowingly follow it
“reality” is a word created by man
meaning everything that isn’t fake or just the “actual” truth behind things
although we may not be able to see the actual truth behind our perspectives doesn’t mean it’s wrong, it just means we’ve given up the process of creating the reasons behind how we make our reality to ourselves and have just followed our preset rules
OR we are still subconsciously changing our perspectives rules
So I think to see true reality is to see the logistics of what we believe and why
Instead of just thinking, think why you think the way you think…
then you should be more able to change your perspective thus changing your reality
so I think to perceive reality is to perceive our inner self
So, does your reality make sense of my reality’s view on this? @aschroeder0
Also…I just read all of those 10 mind-blowing theories and none of them can be proven false or true…and all of them can be seen as a reality or perspective so I think with those philosophies you can think differently about how you think of the vastness of your own mind and that these philosophies may exist not for us to question but to understand that unseen reality perceived based on whether you believe that seeing is believing or that believing is seeing
It’s your choice, your perception
There is no ignorance unless you believe it to be so…

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alexteale (2) (@aschroeder0) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@cosmicd46, Again. Well said!

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alexteale (2) (@aschroeder0) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@tine,
Huh! I never thought of reality as two kinds: physical and mental. Now that you say it, it makes complete sense! I completely agree with you on the “know thyself” approach because you really can’t get much out of life until you do know thyself.

I have some pondering to do…

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alexteale (2) (@aschroeder0) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@benjamin,

I will definitely find the book. I learn more thoroughly when reading rather than listening. Thanks!

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alexteale (2) (@aschroeder0) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@thoughtless,

I’m confused as to what singularity you are talking about? Could you expand on the casual loop theory?

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