Is there single time for all events?

Seremonia (@Seremonia) 8 years, 3 months ago

One kind of states of awareness (where we perceive our life) is enough to show a complete life with different completeness. Two different kind of states of awareness (where we perceive our life) are enough to show frames of a personal life. More than one kind of states of awareness are enough to create the sense of experiencing life.

I am going to use parable:

One kind of specific long binary number is enough to show a complete life with different completeness. Changing differently from a specific long binary number to binary number is another long enough to create the sense of experiencing life.

It’s like one complete life as long binary file. Changing the permutation of long binary file represents a changing of a complete set of life. The essence of reality is a changing and that is a changing of frequency that reflects a different binary number that reflects a kind of a state of awareness that reflects a complete life with different completeness.

Changing long binary file is like changing for the whole events. Meaning, that changing long binary file will make a change on the entire events instantly. It’s like changing long binary file will make a change of a picture – as a set of details of the picture (where a picture with its details may be assumed as a complete set of life) – to another different picture (with different set of details of the picture).

The essence (true) of experiencing personal life (reality) is a changing continuously from a permutation. All events appear simultaneously from one set of a complete life to another set of complete life (everything has been completed).

There is only a constant time for any changes anywhere within universe. Changing from one permutation to another different permutation reflects one time. Changing from one permutation to another five different permutations reflects five times. It’s a constant time for the whole events. What we consider as there are multiple times, but the fact there is only one, single constant change.

If we are talking at the level of particle or at the level of quantum entity, then there must be specific level of quantum entity (whether at level electron, quark or even smaller, i am not sure which one of those), where for all of those quantum entity at the specific level (at the very smaller level), are moving (vibrate, tick and similar to these) at the same moment simultaneously. In the sense that changing events here and there is changing somewhere instantly and relevantly +++ There is no relativity here, in the sense that relativity can’t be applied on this case (at this level) +++

It’s just like a kind of universal clock (wherever it is). Well, it’s rather provoking but that’s it, as is. Otherwise just skip it :-)

October 2, 2013 at 4:43 am
Endure1 (16) (@Endure1) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@seremonia, The way I understood your parable is that there would be no existence without cosmic motion. Am I misunderstanding?

Matter changing “..at the same moment simultaneously”. If you are claiming that there is a smallest unit of time, then I am with you. The dimension of time that we experience is linear, this can be broken down into “infinitely small” units. Whether this “infinitely small” ‘piece’ of time is literally a point or has real ‘size’ is beyond me. You also mentioned “five times” and I can only assume you mean how at a quantum level we experience ALL different possibilities simultaneously. What we experience is the collapsing(canceling) of all the other possibilities into the ONE we are left with. For me there is no reason to think that the other possibilities are less ‘real'(probable) even though we do not personally(?) experience them.

“The essence (true) of experiencing personal life (reality) is a changing continuously from a permutation. All events appear simultaneously from one set of a complete life to another set of complete life (everything has been completed).” The second line has me confused. Are you claiming the way we experience time is not real? Are you proposing a minimum time change based on life span? Are you asking if possibly our time would be a point in higher dimensions?

I think I understand your intended topic better now. The universe is constantly changing, is there a minimum deltaT? Have you seen the formula for time dilation in relation to speed? As a photon traverses the universe at the speed of light it experiences no (change in) time.

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Seremonia (22) (@Seremonia) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@endure1,

Matter changing “..at the same moment simultaneously”. If you are claiming that there is a smallest unit of time, then I am with you. // Yes

The dimension of time that we experience is linear, this can be broken down into “infinitely small” units. Whether this “infinitely small” ‘piece’ of time is literally a point or has real ‘size’ is beyond me. You also mentioned “five times” and I can only assume you mean how at a quantum level we experience ALL different possibilities simultaneously. // Yes

What we experience is the collapsing(canceling) of all the other possibilities into the ONE we are left with. For me there is no reason to think that the other possibilities are less ‘real’(probable) even though we do not personally(?) experience them. // are you saying this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_a_tree_falls_in_a_forest ?
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I am going to use thought experiment on this case. Let us put this way.

– Consider DNA. It has G(uanine), A(denine), T(hymine), C(ytosine).

These G,A,T,C are the foundation of a cat as a whole as a cat (not as a hand, hair of a cat or not as a part of a cat). The changing of one of these G(uanine), A(denine), T(hymine), C(ytosine), then there would be a changing to the whole appearance as a cat.

It’s simultaneously wherever it is. And, yes there are smallest units of time // It’s similar to G(uanine), A(denine), T(hymine), C(ytosine), but in this case there are two of (closer to) the smallest things (synchronizing one to another).

Related to your confusion on this statement “All events appear simultaneously from one set of a complete life to another set of complete life (everything has been completed)”

– All of the things (functions), where one to another acts by synchronizing each other simultaneously and it will create a complete appearance of a cat that has differentiation as a previous cat (complete profile as a cat) compared to current profile as a cat. // It’s similar to changing the set of these G(uanine), A(denine), T(hymine), C(ytosine) would be a cause of difference appearance of a cat from (previous appearance as) a white cat to a yellow cat.

– A minimum time change is based on higher dimension (spiritually – if you believe it) or it’s based on (closer to) the smallest things (where both vibrate simultaneously and synchronized one to another, wherever we found it)

//And cosmic motions is one of the way a cat making movement within a room. //

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Endure1 (16) (@Endure1) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

The tree falling in a forest with ‘no one’ around to hear it is an excellent thought experiment but not what I was referring to. What I meant is how there could be an infinite amount of ‘realities’ but all we experience is this one. How every moment there is a decision being made(energy being expended) to do exactly what you are doing now, because we are self-aware we make these choices. Whether it is insignificant or not is up to personal views.

I’m not sure I understand what you were getting at with the DNA thought experiment in relation to a single time. It seems you are touching on the issue of continuity?

We are influencing the cosmic motion or it is influencing us? =) I agree entirely with the last bullet point you made. Great topic by the way.

I’ll ask again:
Are you asking if possibly our time&space would be a point in higher [email protected],

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Seremonia (22) (@Seremonia) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@endure1,

{…What I meant is how there could be an infinite amount of ‘realities’ but all we experience is this one. …}

Well, then there must be another realms on different moments should be entered by us to live inside it, perhaps after life?

{…I’m not sure I understand what you were getting at with the DNA thought experiment in relation to a single time. It seems you are touching on the issue of continuity?…}

Continuity everywhere as one single action

{…We are influencing the cosmic motion or it is influencing us?…}

Higher dimension influencing the cosmic motion

{…I’ll ask again:
Are you asking if possibly our time&space would be a point in higher dimensions?…}

Yes, our time & space would be a point in higher dimension

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Cody (472) (@versai) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

I wanted so badly to understand this but I think there’s a slight language barrier because it’s just not clicking with me. Seems like you spent a lot of time working this out so I feel bad asking–is there any way to dumb it down? Also, is this concept practical? I did not understand it but from what I gathered, our realities boil down to 1 of many different timelines… And okay, but what’s significant about that compared to our current understanding of linear time? If we can never access or even be aware of those alternate realities, then the concepts are practically the same.

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Seremonia (22) (@Seremonia) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@versai,

Practical implementation of it, that, if it’s correct (at least correct for myself :-) ) scientifically, then it asserts that all things are connected and that all things are running at once beyond speed of light, and it will lead (maybe in the future) to the fact that it can only be provided by our own consciousness, in the sense that, imagine where all scientists having ability to explore our consciousness and use it to advance spirituality as the foundation of future life. Well it’s sounds like science fiction right or is it? But that’s the fact at least maybe in the future. Mind over matters or consciousness is well connected to matters.

But if we are talking about practical understanding on it {…is there any way to dumb it down?…}, then it could only be provided through “converting ourselves to see it as it is without distraction”, or we can wait for scientist to confirm it later. Or we can learn today’s scientific research and see if there is link to this case logically. I have to, but i have no time. Besides i am not sure if there is scientific reason of it. But then, i accept further confirmation based on scientific or against it.

Until then, this is my understanding, well it’s rather provoking, i just share it. After all, if it’s true there must be a link of it to logical frames or scientifically.

But actually, logical consequences through axioms would lead to it. On my previous threads, those lead to this conclusion, but it needs further argumentations to put all of these on one big clear structures of logical frames, so we can track it from one topic to another topic smoothly and logically.

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Cody (472) (@versai) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@seremonia, Yea. I believe I’ve actually experienced the idea you’re describing through a DMT trip. Time felt unified, which is an extremely difficult concept to wrap my mind around. I was aware of my entire existence (past and future were PRESENT) in a single moment. That’s why I was drawn to this thread, perhaps for an explanation. But the science of it still seems too unknown to relate logically. What I felt was far beyond my understanding and ability to describe, so it’s hard to say how exactly it all works. I’m confident in what I experienced though and believe you are correct that all events are existing simultaneously, or at the very least are connected in more ways than just linearly.

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Seremonia (22) (@Seremonia) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@versai,

Agreed :-)

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Mozaiq (3) (@Mozaiq23) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@versai,

Our purpose upon realising these infinite potentials inherent in nature and ourselves; I feel; is to fully connect with an channel this beauty, integrating these experiences as a fundamental aspect our limitlessness within ourselves and the cosmos. Tibetan’s call it Buddha Nature, many call it soul. There is a much deeper, more sacred part at all of our centers that wants to fully experience planet earth – we just need to find our own ways to be sure we let it.

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