I've been inflicted with the question of "why"…

Eloguvnah (@googaloo) 7 years, 8 months ago

… an advanced civilization might create a simulation.

I’d like to start a conversation with those that are familiar with Bostrom’s simulation argument:

Let’s suppose that we are indeed living in a simulated universe by advanced beings. Why would they bother?

Bostrom talks about recreational and learning but what would there be to learn? How can sitting in a cubicle 9 hours a day be considered fun? Is there another reason to create a simulated reality?

So far, I’ve come up with four reasons

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To Learn Empathy – This didn’t occur to me until I started thinking about what that civilization might be like. Pretty intriguing when you do the thought experiment. More on my thoughts about it here:
http://www.theoryserum.com/simulated-universe-theory-1-entry-citizenship/

2.
Testing Outcomes – What if you knew the exact outcome of any decision you need to make? Just set the right parameters of your own big bang, fast forward to your time and make that decision. Boom…. Of course, this comes with it’s own set of philosophical issues…

3.
Just for the Fun of it! — Hm… still more to learn on this one.

4.
Further exploration – Okay, we’ve learned everything there is to know about the universe — Last frontier may actually be our unlimited imagination!

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Do you think there is any other reason an advanced civilization might create a simulated universe?

May 29, 2014 at 1:21 pm
Lu (2) (@Luciferum) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

I could agreed with what you’ve written above if I was not genuinely against anthropomorphism: what I think is in fact that the humankind always attempt to explain something which we cannot explain making it human,from God, to aliens to this theory you just expose. I think that we should just surrender in front of questions that we base on theory , as what our answer will be theoric . So how could be your points (which I complete understand and , in part, agree with) have more credibility than other? You are thinking as this advanced being were humans. Well for sure they would have fun creating and playing with us then, we do that everyday trying to simulate life with video-games, robots,etc.. Hope I made a point, I’m not a mother tongue and I know my level of English still childish. Ad maiora . :)

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

“let us create them in our image.”

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

This is based off of…?

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Lu (2) (@Luciferum) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

sorry, what’s exactly your question?

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Uh hum, excuse me. Let me rephrase

From where art though comes this extreme claim?

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Lu (2) (@Luciferum) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

it’s just a comment, neither that extreme. excuse ME if it was’t satisfactory.

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

You asked what my question was so I rephrased it in a joking manner. lol

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Eloguvnah (14) (@googaloo) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

In short, Bostrom’s argument. It’s a statistical analysis of the possibility that we live in some sort of simulation. It proposes three basic possibilities, one being that we eventually advance enough to build simulations ourselves and if we have , say, a million copies of this simulation, it’s reasonable to say that we have a one in a million chance NOT to be in a simulation. He explains it in the video far better than I can.

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

He doesn’t really explain why he thinks that.

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

Not the purpose, but what leads him to believe that.

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Eloguvnah (14) (@googaloo) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

He uses a self-reasoning thought experiment to come to his conclusion. It’s just a deduction exercise of logic.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 7 years, 7 months ago ago

If reality is fabricated, it should in no way underscore the value of our being. If people were to realise we are just an elaborate simulation, do you think they would no longer care about life and others? If your child is just a stream of data in a cyber program does this change the reality of how you feel?

I say the same about pre-destiny; even if everything is just fulfilling a script that it is programmed to act out, existing as we do in this linear state, even being aware of that, doesn’t change anything about our reality nor our perspective, only we really decide what we want to believe and our behaviour generally conforms to that assumption, if we have the will and ability to execute it that way.

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