Kava kava?

Liptons (@liptons) 8 years ago

I’ve known about kava kava but never actively hunted it down. Now that I’m looking for it I wanna hear experiences using different products. I’m aiming to reduce anxiety/mild depression and basically just get a buzz off something OTC. If you have suggestions aside from kava kava I’m more than open to them, kava just happens to have piqued my interest.

I’ve heard steeping the Yogi tea can create a small buzz and greatly relieve stress, the capsules produce a more mild effect, kava roots produces the same sort and that fresh kava root fire knocks you on your ass. Share your experience with kava kava!

November 27, 2013 at 12:48 am
Liptons (12) (@liptons) 8 years ago ago

Kratom has also been of interest but seems harder to find, would it be at any local headshop?

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 8 years ago ago

Kratom > kava kava.

Get kratom online for cheaper.
Careful with dosing, too much can really make you feel sick.

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Liptons (12) (@liptons) 8 years ago ago

Yea I’ve heard kratoms the bomb, is it worth it or should I just buy some ganja and call it a day.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years ago ago

@ijesuschrist, what kratom strain do you recommend

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years ago ago

@liptons, new experiences are new experiences. if you can get a different strain of bud to appease seeking something different then probably some fire buddha.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 8 years ago ago

@liptons, kratom is the new ganja! except it doesn’t cure cancer.

I took it too much and now it makes me feel dizzy when I do. They aren’t sure the amount of damage it does to the liver, but Kava root DOES do damage, and the leaves of kava are very toxic to the liver (so uninformed people often end up hurting themselves by eating the leaves).

Kratom is probably not as “safe” as cannabis, but mild use shouldn’t be an issue. Treat it like alcohol.


@josephm
, eh I had bought 2 strains. One was supposed to be very strong, and the other just normal. I couldn’t tell the difference. I think if they are 1. fresh and 2. whole leaves it might. But I get the powder, which you know has been just sitting around for some months.

I wouldn’t be too picky.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years ago ago

@ijesuschrist, i tried a heavy dose with some of my opiate prone friends before we went out and it had me runnin to the bar’s bathroom, had to undo my belt and just chill hard. i see potential in it though.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 8 years ago ago

@josephm, it made you shit?

There is a heavy tolerance curve with it. People who take opiates are going to take twice your dose, and if you took the same amount you’re gonna feel terrible.

I would start with capsules – make your own or buy some.. Then go with 2 to start, and if thats not enough, 2 more, etc.

My first dose was 2 and I could hang with that so nicely.
Then it was only 4 could feel anything.
Now I’m around 6-8 to feel anything, and if I take 10 I feel sick.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years ago ago

@ijesuschrist, made me shit out of my mouth. its awful smelling and tasting.

scaling with capsules would probably be the best way, i agree

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vivaciouslyv (24) (@vivaciouslyv) 8 years ago ago

@liptons, buying kratom online is risky. Some headshops sell decent capsules but be careful with the dosage. My first time (a few months ago) I got really really sick. The second time I was okay. Last time we mixed it with alcohol and that was a weed experience. It’s definitely worth trying out though!

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DreadedSoundsofLate (50) (@DreadedJonnyT) 8 years ago ago

@liptons, I’m a regular kratom drinker. Not really a capsule fan.
I recommend Maeng Da kratom or Thai kratom. Don’t get the bali, it sucks.
I generally steep a spoonful or two in about 8-12 oz of water for half an hour, and add a little bit of citrus to help extract the alkaloids (this makes it more potent). Sometimes I’ll chill the tea and use it as a smoothie base.
Drink a veggie/fruit smoothie and all of a sudden your body is numb. Pretty awesome.
It’s very easy to build up a tolerance, so I try not to have it more than once every 3-4 days.

@vivaciouslyv
kratomcountry is a very reliable seller that sells premium kratom. I have never ran into anything “risky”.
They actually have a %10 off code on their website for T-giving right now.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years ago ago

@dreadedjonnyt, i drank it mixed with water and was gagging the whole time and there were chunks floating everywhere . a smoothie would probably be deliciously euphoric.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years ago ago

http://www.thekratomking.com/Maeng_Da_Thai_Kratom_Powder_p/ozkramaengdapow.htm

recommended this. and also recommended to not use capsules.

translation of the name is “pimps kratom”

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John “Avy” (57) (@Avernus) 8 years ago ago

@josephm, why don’t you recommend capsules?

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years ago ago

@avernus, didnt recommend anything, i just have conflicting opinions from those who recommended me

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 8 years ago ago

@liptons, Drugs aren’t gonna help you with your anxiety issues, only cover them up for a while.

If all you want is relaxation and a nice buzz, just go for tramadol. It’s super cheap and available everywhere, and doesn’t make you hungover.
I know, it’s not a natural drug, but it’s safer than kratom at least.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years ago ago

http://www.drugs.com/answers/tramadol-withdrawal-441554.html

seizures and shit? just one google search here.

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/345335-Kratom-withdrawal

stomache pains n stuff with the plant


@manimal
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Filip (2,818)M (@filipek) 8 years ago ago

@liptons, I have been attending kava kava ceremonies with natives in Fiji. I am not sure if they were offering mixed or pure root kava kava because I did not find the effects particularly strong. At one point I drank between 20-30 cups and felt only minor changes in my body and mind.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 8 years ago ago

@josephm, Oh snap, forum threads as “evidence”… there’s no way anyone can top that, is there?

Here’s an interesting thing from the same lousy forum: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/634000-9-deaths-from-Kratom-blends-analyzed

And if you take a look at some newsfeeds, you’ll see that people die from kratom all the time.
Kratom is not a harmless, natural wonder drug. It’s just a hype, advertisement.

I’ve used kratom, and I know a bunch of people who also have. And we can all state the same thing, that it really fucks you up.

On the other hand, I used to be on the tram big time. >1000mg daily (and anything above 400mg is too much) and never had any withdrawal or seizures or even cramps, despite being on it for more than a year (and doing other drugs too during that period.) I know many who have used even more even longer, and had no problems at all.

The woman who made the post you linked was using way too much and not paying attention. And yknow, some of those diseases she brought up can give the symptoms she attributed to the drug.
Look it up.

I’m not advocating tram or drug use in general. I’m sober and would prefer if people didn’t use drugs.
But there are bad options and less bad options. Kratom is a bad option, tram is a less bad option.

Seriously though, if someone just wants a bit of relief and a nice little high there’s something tried and true called weed.

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josephm (772) (@josephm) 8 years ago ago

@manimal, “There’s not a whole lot on these “enhanced” kratom products, but the citation below was really revealing, and explained a lot. It’s common to add a derivative of tramadol to these powered preparations.”

“unwanted ingredients in your kratom. ”

hype? it is a plant. with psychoactive ingredients.

i guess if you cant find that pure china white then the oxycontin’s will do tha trick

http://welovekratom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/bush-merkelbach-planting-kratom-trees-copy-bikhuk.jpg

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Jeremy M6981 (0) (@JeremyM6981) 7 years, 5 months ago ago

Anxiety attacks may be induced by taking some types of drugs, environmental stress, physical trauma and hormonal imbalances. Chemical can help, but they tend to be harsh, potent, and have bad side effects. The best solution is to go for walk and take healthy diet. Secondly you can take kava also which have zero side effect. But be aware don’t use it during pregnancy and feeding your child. http://www.kickbackwithkava.com/ is having good flavors and I am also consuming it at often bases.
Stay healthy, eat healthy

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