Everyone know’s what weed is. Cannabis, marijuana, herb- everyone’s heard of it. Shrooms, most people know what these are to. What do they have in common?
Weed, and psilocybin mushroom are the most well known “natural” drugs. They come right from the earth without any extraction process or funky chemical reactions. They are both amazing drugs, they open and expand the mind.they’re safe. They’re natural.
This goes out too everyone who believes natural drugs are the way to go.
Kava Kava is a pepper grown in the Pacific Ocean nations- islanders grind the root of the plant into a powder and make it into a drink. To those who have never tried it, i would describe Kava as a intoxicant. It numbs your mouth, loosens your muscles, intoxicates you, and adds a little high.
I guess, to put it pretty simply, Kava will make the user feel a bit drunk, high, and also as if they took a low dose of a opiate. And yet it feels like none of these things. Your mind remains clear. Clear as day. And yet you can be fucked on it. And yet, it can be used effectively as medicine without getting you fucked up.
So- i come here to spread the word. Kava kava is an amazing plant. Medicinally it has very effective anti-anxiety and insomnia relieving effects. it will melt the stress away. Rumors of damage are false false false, this plant has been shown to be safe.
Many will doubt the effects of Kava, and throw them away as nearly placebo like- Kava has a “reverse tolerance” where you must allow the active components to build up in your body before they take effect. There is no tolerance to the drug like with weed.
I truly believe everyone would love Kava. It should be given a chance.
For those who are interested, i’ll post a few links that’ll give ya an idea of what it is. Feel free to ask questions in this thread. I got the answers:)
General information: (Wikipedia, of course ;P)
A good video that’ll show you how Kava is prepared, with other very interesting information:
@chaselang19, Kava KAva is completely legal in the United States. I don’t know where you live, so here’s a site that tells you the status in other nations.
As for obtaining it, i suggest you buy online.
Kava Kava extracts and pills/capsules can be bought at your local pharmacy- but i very highly suggest buying the actual root. This can be purchased on many different websites, but the most popular are:
Kava tinctures are often really good, but I’ve found that all forms are inconsistent, this is because it is most potent fresh, so if it doesn’t work at first, don’t give up it could be not fresh or potent, try a different source. Kava is amazing for playing music and creativity although it can blur focus a bit. Definitely not ideal for anything physical or exercise, keep in a relaxed setting where you can unwind and it can actually be energizing, but in a physical setting like work or school it will feel like a heavy sedative and put you to sleep.
Rumors of it being harmful to the liver arose when capitalists in Europe started adding in-edible parts of the plant (shrubbery etc) to their packages to increase profits and was causing physical harm, but there are now regulations preventing this hopefully even though the rumor persists.
Kava is definitely one of my favorite herbal highs. If you like kava (Mao-b) you might also like yohimbe (Mao-a) which acts similarly but more as a stimulant, great for work or partying, mixes well with everything (psychedelic mixed with alcohol) just be careful not to overdose you could be up all night heart racing with jittery hands.
Kratom is also a great medicine, but kava is definitely one of the most cleansing and medicinal herbal highs aside from mushrooms in my opinion!
@liveitloveit, Haha, i like to tell myself Kava has an acquired taste, much like coffee. And yet, there are still times when it makes me cringe a bit. But i have learned to flavor it well!
I drink it around 3 times a week- It was probably a flaw in logic, but i stopped smoknig weed and used kava as a replacement haha.
it really is wonderful though, i feel like i should spread the word- it’s hard for new users to catch on though, mostly because of the bad taste, reverse tolerance, and annoying preparation.
@heavydreamz, Ahh good praise. I’ve never heard of yohimbe, i’m guna look into it though, sounds pretty amazing!
I wanna add, since kava has muscle relaxing properties, I’ve found it ideal for working out (of the muscle building type, i don’t think cardio would work well). Now, maybe this isn’t safe, but since kava both numbs and relaxes your muscles, i was able to bench-press 10 lbs more than i usually do, i was impressed. And my muscles didn’t get tired. I would recommend trying it before a workout- although i kinda think it could increase the chances of pulling a muscle.
i’m no judge and i’ve done my share of drugs….all of them, seriously. but after a lengthy stay in the mind altering state of drug induced euphoria i’ve grown to enjoy life without them more than with them. maybe its due to the fact that i did drugs for three quarters of my life from a young teen to well into my adult life. i never experienced life on life’s terms, i always experienced it through my terms (with some inebriating narcotic). mushrooms can be fatal. make no mistake you are poisoning yourself and you can take a fatal amount, weed got to the point of making me bored and paranoid..and i won’t get into the man made narcotics i consumed for years. i will allow the “don’t panic it’s organic argument” is viable if not inherently correct, but i feel as though the idea of some sort of balance should be ascertained. by the rationale of “all natural”…… coca leaves fall under that category, central and south american native tribes consumed the leaves similar to the way we use chewing tobacco, and its medical properties were widely understood for centuries following the spanish explorers in the 1500’s, it has the same statistic as weed when compared in its natural state…you would have to consume pounds upon pounds of coca leaf to die (basically impossible, like you would have to smoke pounds of pot at once to die) but used as the natives did there were no adverse side effects or medical causes of concern, it was studied in depth from the late 1800’s well into the twentieth century. (the book is titled Cocaine, a biography or was it called The History of Cocaine? i can’t remember and i’m to lazy to look it up right now) when refined heavily and an alkalai added to form cocaine it becomes highly addictive and quite fatal in many cases. the same could be said for Papaver somniferum, or the opium poppy. when first discovered and used by native peoples in its tarish almost liquid type sticky solution from the bulb of the poppy flower, it was an excellent pain reliever, anasthetic and all around medicine in teas or raw, once again when refined into opium or more deadly heroin it is highly addictive and quite often fatal. so i agree with if it grows here and occurs naturally, an unrefined plant has many useful properties, this wonderful planet earth provides many many natural cures for the ills of man and the land, we as humans more often than not exploit them for some sort of selfish gain. funny thing is…alcohol doesn’t occur in nature. we have to make it by fermenting the fruits of this earth. yet that is legal. and one of the most fatal. thoughts?
@kaliholiday, they are all inconsistent sadly. It depends on how fresh and potent the material is before the extraction, btw capsule form is pretty much pointless.. powders can be good, i get powder and chopped root from a chinese herb shop who gets it fresh, tincture is definitely the most convenient.
I downed a whole tinture bottle once :D great times recording awesome tunes. Interesting to hear about the muscular energizing effect you experienced. Ive experienced the opposite, for a hike each step felt like 1000 pounds, way too much effort to be enjoyed.
At work it makes it literally impossible to get anything done.
Definitely best for chiilin around with nothing but bliss on the mind and unwind.
@thedudeabides, I can relate (kinda) to your when you say you’ve used drugs for a good portion of your life, you lived life on your terms/ I’m only a junior in highschool, so i’ve got plenty left ahead of me. But for two straight years i abused weed every single day. And shrooms and acid and other less reputable drugs. In the end, a acid trip which was good, somehow left me unable to smoke weed without getting anxiety. LSD saved me from the horrible every day cycle of weed.
Well, it broke the cycle, but didn’t tear the roots of the addiction. I still love drugs. Kava had been amazing for me, notable because of how clear headed you are. There iss no doubt i am under the influence when i drink a bowl or two of kava- and yet i feel sober. It’s an odd and wonderful feeling.
And you bring up a good point- we humans have a notorious history of taking plant based drugs and making them into dangerous narcotics. Poppys and Coca leaves are a great example. It’s equally right to say that nature can create dangerous drugs by itself without human interferance.
What i want to note is that when mother nature gives us a good good drug (like weed, or kava kava, or mushrooms), there seems to be a unreal amount of synergy working behind the scenes to further perfect the drug. Cannabis has hundreds(?) of different canabanoids working together, all perfecting the high. Kava Kava has kavalacetones, over 30 different active components that all contribute. these active components in both weed and kava work to remove threats, help the body, and give a better high.
@heavydreamz, Yeah, with any plant i would never recommend capsules (or extracts, but these can work well).
Although i can’t fully confirm this, these is research that points kava liver failure to a unbalance in kavalacetones within the extract. Allegedly, the actual kava kava root has a perfect balance of active compounds that protect your liver, but when you use a extract or capsules, the balance is thrown off and you run the risk of damaging your liver.
Further reason why nature can perfect our drugs haha ;)
In many ways, i don’t believe in western methods of “natural” medicinal treatment. Nowadays you see a whole isle of plant extracts in your pharmacy, i believe if you actually went out and got the plant, it could work wonders. But by taking extracts i have doubt that anything would occur.
@kaliholiday, yeah heard that. when you get into capsules and extracts you are making it more potent than nature intended. even natural occuring vitamins are bad when you make them too potent. seek out your nutrition and health for your body in healthy natural foods instead of supplements and seek out nutrition for your mind and spirit with healthy natural drugs. what part of the extraction process is natural. as nature intended is the slogan of the day HEthens.
i have it in my medicine cabinet. I took it and felt kinda sick…
and its damaging to the liver, no?
@ijesuschrist, liver damage is associated with the leaves of the plant, which are toxic. That being said, i really dont believe you will get capsuls with leaf in them. I very very highly recomend buying the actual root powder.
As for the sick feeling, kava is known to cause nausea. After taking it a few times this nausea subsides.
Please excuse my horrible spelling, im useing a tablet haha
@ijesuschrist, hmm, id also like to assure you that kava is perfectly safe. The rumors of liver damage have been overturned by the vast population on Pacific Islanders who use kava regularly without any negative effects.
One big nono is mixing kava and alcohol, which i’ve done far to many times. This can be harmfull to the liver.
Two words, stomachs bleeding.
Careful with high dose/long term use.
The pacific islanders are people who are used to it.
I.e., my cousin can drink a 5th of everclear and be fine, and it would put me in the hospital. Natives are dose tolerant.
Be smart, research everything, and for god sakes listen to your body.
This feels great. Thanks for making me opening my medicine cabinet…
oh the things in there.
Come to Hawai’i and enjoy some Kava with yours truly.
@ballsackturtles23, Do you have any links to research on stomach bleeding? I have never heard of such an occurance, and it doesn’t really make sense from a medical standpoint. But i would not at all be surprised.
I wonder because i drink kava about every other day, and have been for the last 4 months. It causes nausea every time, but nothing worse.
@ijesuschrist, @royalty49, If you find the capsules enjoyable, i highly suggest ordering the actual powdered root. I have heard from every person who’s tried both (including in my own experiences), that the root is more effective. The extracts within capsules do not hold the full spectrum of Kavalactones (the active components), and therefore will not have a full effect.
Let me know if your considering purchasing the root. I can recommend what kind to get and so forth:)