Learning

 apexgeo (@apexgeo)8 years, 2 months ago

Hi,

I am trying to learn a new skill and my overall goal is to make that skill my job, it is something im really passionate about and love doing. I have always had a passion for it and have now realised its the only thing I want to do.

The problem is learning it, I have never been able to learn anything effectively nothing ever seems to go in. Therefore I have never been able to progress from a student level to master level. This has been the case all my life, I find things im very passionate about, but im enable to learn anything that sticks.

I just wanted to know what peoples views are of learning is it something they have always been able to do or are you only effective by learning to learn, if thats even a thing. From research theres many different ways of learning and people always say there is types of learning style; but I find when i do those learning style test none of the styles feel comfortable. Thus the same thing happens and nothing goes in or stays in.

Your views would be greatly appreciated.

July 6, 2013 at 4:56 pm
Ricardo (1) (@4coins) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@apexgeo, what is the skill? For me practice is what helps me, but it depends on what it is you are trying to learn. If its memorization or hands on.

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apexgeo (0) (@apexgeo) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Poker I left it out becuase its very hard to describe the skills involved to people that just want to believe its gambling. But to give more information it involves alot of theory, mathematics, self analysis, practising and application. Memorizing does come into it and that is what I need to do mainly so that I am able to apply situationally when playing.

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apexgeo (0) (@apexgeo) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@4coins, Poker I left it out becuase its very hard to describe the skills involved to people that just want to believe its gambling. But to give more information it involves alot of theory, mathematics, self analysis, practising and application. Memorizing does come into it and that is what I need to do mainly so that I am able to apply situationally when playing.

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Ricardo (1) (@4coins) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@apexgeo, oh, yeah I would say practice is the best bet then. Getting real comfortable with it so that you can calculate your moves almost instantly.

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apexgeo (0) (@apexgeo) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@4coins, yeah but thats the problem again its hard to explain if your not a poker player but practice isnt as straight forward as let say basketball. You could play bad at basketball and know that you where bad. But with Poker the very nature of it is that profit comes from a tiny edge that you have over opponents that dont know how to play. the main aim is to be making investments that over the long run are mathematically correct and to exploit weaker players. However when practising you could play perfect make every move correct but still have a losing session so its difficult to learn where your mistakes are.

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Ricardo (1) (@4coins) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@apexgeo, yeah I didn’t know how to play poker so I did a quick research to find out more about it. The thing is that, since it’s random you really don’t have a lot of control over it, which is what makes it hard to “master”. Either way though, calculating the percentage involved in making your hand better instantly is where the practice comes in.

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apexgeo (0) (@apexgeo) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@4coins, ok so you think i should practice that away from playing. Also that is not all I need to learn the list is endless position, tells, hand selection, pot odds, implied odds, revese odds, aggression, bluffing, semi bluffing, power plays, stack management, bankroll management, player profilling, HUDS, tracking software believe me it takes a very long time to even get close to mastering but my main issue is how can I begin this what are the techniques of learning not learning poker learning anything.

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Ricardo (1) (@4coins) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Well you gotta learn everything there’s to the game and about yourself. Like anything, familiarizing yourself with how it works and playing it will get you learning it. Also, a lot of research on the subject. I mentioned learning about yourself because your expressions and body language could fuck you up without you even knowing. Study the pros and mimic their body language. I would also set up a camera recording you while you play and see how you react to your cards. Are you just starting?

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apexgeo (0) (@apexgeo) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@4coins, No i been playing for years but im only now taking it seriously and going to new depths with my game but its hard to implement things when you have played a certain way your whole life. Thats good advise I will implement that but I dont play live I play on line there is still tells you can give away to other players though that i do work on. but yeah overall I think that is it I just have to do prolonged purposeful study and implementation is going to be the only way.

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Zach White (3) (@ZachWhite) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

You should check out Tim Ferris’ book, 4-Hour Chef, it’s all about learning things quickly. It’s sort of a cook book but it’s more of a disguise(?) than anything else. They have a section about language and a lot of other skills that you can learn in record time, and I believe card reading is one of them. I’m sorry if this explanation is bad but I really do recommend it!

The 4-Hour Chef


http://www.amazon.com/books/dp/0547884591

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apexgeo (0) (@apexgeo) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@zachwhite, OMG thanks thats it how to learn wow just checked out the description and trailer on the site but yeah thats It. All i need to know to learn thanks so much. Already dowloaded it on my kindle. Hopefully this works.

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Zach White (3) (@ZachWhite) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@apexgeo, Haha, no problem man! I hope it helps!

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