Legalization of Cannibis

Myriah (@mdenson) 11 years, 4 months ago

Should the growth and consumption of hemp and cannibus be allowed in the USA? I think so how bout you.

February 17, 2011 at 7:34 pm
Alex Eastman (71) (@alex) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

Yesh, but in certain amounts. I don’t care what you guys say, it can make people dumber than a box of rocks, I’ve seen it happen. lol.

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Chris (1) (@chris) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

The criminalization of cannabis possession/production does seem arbitrary.

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Jordan B. (1) (@synchestra) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

I think it should at the very least be decriminalized. People shouldn’t be locked away for many years due to marijuana.

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Ace (3) (@ace7) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

Many people focus on Marijuana, which honestly I know just barely enough about to know it shouldn’t be banned, and ignore its cousin. I think it’s important that people understand what hemp is and why it was banned. Pardon the long post, but here’s a good article I found about just that:
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“Why is Hemp illegal?
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Wednesday, February 10, 1999
By Simon Frew
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Hemp is one of the world’s most useful plants. Its uses range from paper to fuel, and it could replace many environmentally destructive products.
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For thousands of years hemp has been used as a food, to make clothing, as a medicine and as a drug. It can be turned into plastics and made into petroleum without producing sulphur, thus reducing CO2 in the atmosphere. Until 1883, 75 to 90% of all paper in the world was made from hemp.
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Due to difficulties harvesting it in large quantities, hemp fell out of favour as a profitable crop in the late 1800s, until an automated harvester was developed in the 1930s.
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In the intervening years, many industries were developed to take over hemp’s role in production: oil was drilled from the ground, trees were used for paper and new sources of cloth were developed. Many of the companies involved now had a vested interest in making hemp illegal.
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The United States was the first country to introduce laws to destroy hemp plants, regardless of their intended use. That law was the result of political pressure exerted by the forestry industry and the Dupont corporation, which had just patented oil and coal based plastics production.
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Dupont’s chief financial backer, Andrew Mellon, was US President J. Edgar Hoover’s secretary of the treasury. He appointed his nephew, Harry J. Anslinger, to a position in the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.
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Anslinger whipped up a scare campaign about hemp, which referred to hemp as marijuana so that people would begin to associate the whole plant with drug use only. At the “high” point of this campaign, the propaganda filmsReefer Madness, Marijuana: Weed With Roots in Hell, and Marijuana: Assassin of our Youth were made.
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The propaganda was all hype. Marijuana had been prescribed by doctors for centuries and the American Medical Association condemned the media beat-up as “tabloid sensationalism”.
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The marijuana scare campaign was internationalised and the first hysterical articles appeared in Australia in 1938. In June that year, the newspaper Smith’s Weekly ran the headlines: “Drug that maddens victims”, “Plant grows wild in Queensland” and “Warning from America”. The articles claimed that marijuana “distorts moral values and leads to degrading sexual excesses”.
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At the end of 1938, hemp was listed in Australia as a “noxious weed” which had to be destroyed on sight. It was already illegal to smoke marijuana, but it was the hysteria whipped up about the “evils” of this drug that laid the basis in public opinion for the total banning of one of the world’s most useful plants.”
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http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/20329
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Yes, I realize this is mixed with a little opinion. It’s an opinion I agree with.

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Caitlin (1) (@aklove) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

Legalization gets tricky. How do we know it would stay the same?? they’d tax the shit out of it and could potentially find a way to regulate THC levels and such draining your wallet even more than it already does. Idk how it is in other states i guess, but up here its just an everyday thing. a serious bust is sooo rare, they have oxys and coke to worry about; when almost 90% of the population smokes pot, they can’t arrest us all. And its getting easier and easier to get a medical card…

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Myriah (3) (@mdenson) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

@Ace o yes hemp is the holy grail of plants, I knew this already. That is why I included it in my post. The growing and usage of hemp would be a serious threat to soooo many companies and businesses, so fat effin chance.

But I agree that the decriminalization of it is the most important thing right now. Legalization is a distant hope of all weed smokers, but the gov’t can make too much money off busting cartels and seizing their assets in the short run to want to end that.

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PDC (31) (@chemicalspike) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

Why stop at legalising just cannabis. Drugs are a problem that was more or less created by the war on drugs.

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Syn.Ther. (46) (@luna) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

I do not have a drugproblem, i have plenty ;)

Peace
@ mYriah governments make more money taxing dope then seizing it

look at alcohol and tobacco, which both are reasons why it still is illegal

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Myriah (3) (@mdenson) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

@synthetic Therapy in the long run they will but I am talking about short term gains. If legalization were to happen today there would be a definite and large drop in the money gov’t would have coming in from cannabis. And yes alcohol and tobacco are probably pushing really hard to stop the legalization of weed.

@Peter
because some drugs do not need to be mainstreamed. Weed is fairly harmless if consumed properly, but some drugs are just bad for you no matter how you enjoy them.

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Derek (1point6180339887) (0) (@1point6180339887) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

Yes, they should legalize cannabis and hemp. I have debated many people on the subject and have read countless articles for and against the legalization of cannabis and hemp, and I think it’s safe to say that there is just about NO good argument for why it should remain illegal.
While we’re on the subject, many other drugs shouldn’t be illegal either. How can alcohol be legal, but DMT illegal? It’s not logical by any means. It seems as though the government makes drugs illegal that open the mind and weaken the ego, and they legalize the drugs that make them money and keep materialism and capitalism going.

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Maureen Anne Satana (2) (@blackcat143) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

DOES we really NEED it?? DRUGS to get HIGH??
that’s really a big question that MARKs into myMIND..
#1 based on my experience.. lol
i get high naturally, every time i get upset or feels like
“Sh*t! what this world wants from me!!” i simply face the mirror
and turn on the music that fits my emotions, slowly i let it
penetrate by my soul, feel it within my nerves and slowly move my body..
and I let my emotions and good thoughts flows in the rhythm of the music…
you can never Imagen how great it is.. :))
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Legalize or Illegalized, either way iDON’T care,,,
iKNOW lots of good people who taking it,
and one of my close gal friend have this stuff in their
backyard…

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Syn.Ther. (46) (@luna) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

I see getting high, or any kind of drugs or alcohol for that matter like changing the channel sometimes.
I like watching discovery, but sometimes National geographic can be interesting to.

There are many ways to tune in or out.

So sometimes the antenna needs to be adjusted.

But on topic, if we all would be passing the dutchie there would be less conflict….

my 2 cts.

Peace

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Derek (1point6180339887) (0) (@1point6180339887) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

It’s illegal to smoke a flower that we’ve known about for over 10,000 years (and has only been illegal in the U.S. since 1937); a plant that was probably on Earth BEFORE us; a flower that produces resiny trichomes that contain cannabinoids (our body produces an endocannabinoid called anandamide); a plant that has so many great qualities aside from its medicinal properties (just to generalize: HEMP, everything about it).

And I have yet to hear a sound reason for why it’s illegal. Shouldn’t the government be obligated to tell us exactly why it’s illegal? I just feel like it’s blatantly obvious that it’s illegal for the wrong reasons, and if a law is THAT ridiculous, something needs to be changed. People should not go to jail for smoking a flower that humanity has had no problem smoking for over 10,000 years, but all of a sudden because of relatively recent mind-numbing laws, we can’t smoke it, even though we have multiple-water filter bongs and vaporizers now-a-days. They should not be able to regulate what flowers we can smoke, that’s basically what I’m saying.

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Syn.Ther. (46) (@luna) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

@ Derek there are so many things “they” shouldn’t regulate….

I mean who made them boss… most of the “democratic” decisions I did not have any say in.

perhaps that is why I refuse to obey silly laws., it is still the freedom of choice….

it is just a drag that “them” made the fun things so expensive…….

Peace

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Daniel (17) (@daniel) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

This is something I’m rather passionate about…

The entire concept of the war on drugs is terrible. It’s essentially the majority trying to regulate the morality a minority. There is no logical reason that any drug should be illegal or any reason someone should be kidnapped and locked in a cage for having a plant in their pocket. It’s absurd.

I believe people have the right of self-ownership as a natural right. Therefore, any way one decided to practice their liberty on their property – including partaking in cannabis or another drug – should be there right. Why should the government tell me what I can put into MY body on MY property?

I really think the war on drugs is one o the largest social injustices of our time.

I think the legalization of cannabis and other drugs is inevitable but I think it’ll still be a few decades. Most people who oppose legalization are older folk who bought into government propaganda.

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Anonymous (11) (@) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

@derek, I think you pretty much summed it up with the end of your first post. The “safety” of the public seems only a secondary motive in this war on drugs. Luckily(relatively), I’m in cali so cannabis at least is mostly decriminalized and as mentioned it is not at all difficult to get your card. Hopefully we can get a revised version of prop 19 passed with this next election and maybe get some hemp growing in the central valley; with nearly ten percent of the countries agriculture coming out of california there’s hope that it could be a vital turning point in the legalization process throughout the country. However, there is much ignorance that needs to be trumped prior to nation wide legalization so till then i’ll keep my fingers crossed and my blunt lit

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Daniel (17) (@daniel) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

I think it would be legalized a lot sooner – aka prior to older generations dying off – if those who do support it’s legalization band together and actually work to reform the laws.

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Anonymous (11) (@) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

Agreed. At eighteen though I find myself quite limited in the influence I hold over older generations, especially when so many are so close minded. I’m really hoping it doesn’t take a few decades as suggested. Sadly until public opinion changes many people in power are to scared to voice their support.

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Syn.Ther. (46) (@luna) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

The problem with backing such things is that most employers unfortunately are not so liberal, but I agree with you eventually it will.

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Derek (1point6180339887) (0) (@1point6180339887) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

Imagine how dank the bud will get once it’s legal and funding goes to researching it more. Regs won’t exist at that point :)

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Alex Eastman (71) (@alex) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

Same with DMT. I understand that it does make people stupid at least for 24 hours or so, but that is their choice. The only drugs that should be illegal are the ones that kill people.
If they’d legalize weed there wouldn’t be as many idiot teenagers smoking chives out of the cabinet or drying out poison ivy and smoking it and dying because of it. I’m 16, but holy shit a few dumbasses make the whole classroom look like it is special ed.

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Derek (1point6180339887) (0) (@1point6180339887) 11 years, 4 months ago ago

Everything affects everyone differently. I smoked weed every day before and after school my junior and senior year, and I got A’s. Almost none of my teachers had a clue that I was high almost every single day. I’m not saying what I did was smart, but it certainly wasn’t dumb either, because it didn’t affect me the same as it affected other people.
Same with DMT. After I smoked DMT, I was in a state of amazement for about 10 minutes, and then I was back to normal after that (aside from a different perspective on life).

There are certain people that just shouldn’t partake in psychedelics. But yeah, my point is that things affect people differently, and there is almost no way to properly generalize the affects of a drug.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 10 years, 4 months ago ago

If you want to puff the herb, do it. Why do you think you need someone else to tell you what you can and can’t do?

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 10 years, 4 months ago ago

Simple answer, yes.

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