Lucid Dreaming!

Bryan Hellard (@xyver) 10 years, 10 months ago

don’t know if this method has been posted but ive had some success with it:

when you lay down to go to bed get yourself into a comfortable position, remain completely still and keep your eyes closed. you’ll be completely conscious of your body so you’ll notice when you fall asleep, basically pulling your body into the dream. give it a try if you have the patience to pull it off. good luck

January 24, 2011 at 5:22 am
Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

Guess I’ll start this the only way I know how.

Anyone?

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Raghul Sudersan (4) (@raghulmz) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

One of the best thing about the human brain, it has a powerful, versatile and intuitive simulator :D . Only problem with mine is it crashes very often :( .

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Jordan Lejuwaan (23,445)A (@jordan) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

If you want a sure-fire way to experience lucid dreaming, attempt one of the polyphasic sleep cycles. The lack of sleep makes it really easy to fall asleep quickly, so you bring along more consciousness than you normally would. You’ll become lucid whether you like it or not

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

Did you guys know that alot of the romantic poets used to investigate their own dreams and tried to achieve the interesting controllable visions that could be reached at the edge of sleep? Thomas de Quincey is a famous one.

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Alex Eastman (71) (@alex) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

I wish I could go onto one of those Jordan, but my mum refuses to have me up that late. >__< Any other ideas?

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Jordan Lejuwaan (23,445)A (@jordan) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

The other method that people swear to is setting your alarm to wake you up about 30 minutes earlier than usual. Wake up to it and walk around for 2 minutes so your body is still wanting to go back to bed but your brain is up to speed. Then lay back down, state out-loud that you are going to realize you are dreaming, and then close your eyes and concentrate on staying conscious. This way you should fall back asleep very quickly while maintaining some level of consciousness — making it much easier to realize you’re in a dream.

Once you’re in there, try not to get too excited or you will lose it :)

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Alex Eastman (71) (@alex) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

Hmm, I will try tonight. haha.

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iamjimmy (27) (@iamjimmy) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

I clap every once in a while during the day, and when im dreaming sometimes il remember to clap. Things change in my dream (usually the sky) when i do it and thats how i go after lucid dreams. Its hard not to get excited once you realize your in a dream tho. good luck.

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AzT (1) (@azmosis) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

Half of my dreams, I know that I’m dreaming…

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Cameron (24) (@cman759) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

I’ve actually been working hard at this one and have been keeping a Dream Journal, and posted a sign over my Bed that says DREAM, so that I will remember my dreams better. I haven’t achieved lucidity yet, but am starting to get much better with recall. I would recommend the Dream journal because it helps you keep track of your dreams, and also provides insight to your subconscious. Many things that I have been stressing about come up in my dreams, and keeping track of them has been extremely interesting because I am learning things about myself, which I think is helping me achieve better self-mastery.
“know thyself”
-some greek dude

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

Well, actually last night I had my first bit of lucidity in a long time, I’ve been working at it for awhile. My friend is pro at lucid dreaming, he actually wrote a book about it. Its a fantasy book, but the character in it uses lucid dreaming and the way he was taught (he is going to school learning about dreams) is all legit and should work in real life.

The advice he gave me is yes, you need a dream journal or some way to remember your dreams, me personally I just meditate on them when I wake up, and then I was doing reality checks alot, but that didnt work out so well for me. He said that you always have to pay attention to details. I said “buddhist mindfulness?”. And he replied “exactly.” So i tried that for a few days, and it works great. Every night before i go to bed, I say to myself “Tonight I will remember the details of my dreams” 10 times.

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Alex Eastman (71) (@alex) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

The only lucidity in my dreams EVER was this: I was sitting in the band room talking to my friends. It was the most normal setting ever, everyone was dressed normally, room looked the same etc, except i started looking around and noticed everything had a white “aura” where i couldn’t really see anything specific. Then i said in my dream “this is a dream” then woke up…
talk about disappointing :P haha.
I might start a dream journal though, it sounds like a good idea. I write some of mine down, but on random scraps of paper in my room so its not organized. (organization is my worst trait)

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David (1) (@revitilized) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

I’m screaming right because I have lots of notes on lucid dreaming from some psyc classes I took last semester, but they are at home, ill try to help you out just from memory.

The amount of people that can control their dreaming, or understand that they are in a dream, then alter it in some way (lucid dreaming) frequently is very low. Most people experience lucid dreaming, but can’t manage to do it again.

For people like you and me, who can’t just do it by will there are some tricks to help you understand when you are dreaming, and when you are awake, which is where you need to be in order to lucid dream.

You need to develop a sort of habit when you are awake, that will not reoccur in a dream. This way you realize you are sleeping. For example, some people make an x on the back of their hand. They see this everyday, and after a while you grow accustomed to that x being there. When you dream you won’t see the x on your hand, so if you are accustomed to it being there, then it is not, you realize you are dreaming. There are other techniques like this one but they take some time to work (you need to get used to having an x on your hand). There are other indicators you can look for too, in dreams you can’t read digital clocks, and your reflection in mirrors is skewed.

What Cameron is doing with the dream journal is very helpful too, by recording your dreams, (you should do this immediately when you wake up so you don’t forget them) you become more familiar with them, and with lucid dreaming the whole idea is that you understand when you are dreaming, and when you are awake, so you can attempt to alter your dream.

You have to know you are dreaming in order to be lucid dreaming, so look for unusual things that wouldn’t be there in real life, then go from there!
Good Luck

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Matthew (26) (@schwerbear) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

http://grasshopperx.com/dreams/lucid-dreaming-20-part-1/

This is something I stumbled onto and will try as soon as I have extra $ to get the supplements.

I’ve read some crazy experiences using galantamine, huperzine-A and 5-htp

I guarantee you’ll find some interesting/useful info in that article.

..at least I did!

Cheers

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Big Mike (0) (@wizzy) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

The best reality check is periodically pinching your nose shut and attempting to still breathe through it. If your in a dream, you’ll still be able to breathe and SHAZAAM become lucid.

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

Good idea Mike

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Hufweite (0) (@hufweite) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

The “Some greek guy” was Aristotle, I think.

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pmc (1) (@obasilisco) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

yeah mike nice idea, gonna try it!
i usually become aware of the dream when i jump (it takes longer to hit the ground again)

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Cat (0) (@catalina) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

I have the same sign, jumping. sometimes you go really high or you take far too long to get back on the ground. I’ve tried pinching my nose but for some reason it didn’t work and i freaked out that i was suffocating and lost it from there. So I decided to stick to the jumping. Also, I doubt the making a sign on your hand would work for me, as i also freak out about seeing my body in dreams.
I was taking some gnostic course when i was a kid (15) and the guy said that in astral/dream form (can’t remember which) your body won’t look like in reality but it will look like it really is, something in the lines of ‘your real self’ will be visible. Fast forward to me being in my first lucid dream and I decide, right, I have to see what I really look like (the guy had warned us not to do it, as we might not like what we see). I see a mirror, it was steamed so I wipe the steam and look at myself. I looked like some poorly made, old-fashion-horror-movie-prop-monster. Green and lumpy and sweaty and just a few strands of hair struggling not to fall off. i wasn’t scared enough in the dream to lose lucidity but the next day when i woke up and thought to myself: Oh my God, is that the real me, that’s how ugly I really am on the inside? It really scared me. I suppose low self esteem could be considered responsible for me seeing myself like that in dream form in the first place.
So jump Alex, in my experience jumping works the best and stay away from mirrors (now you won’t, that I’ve told you- don’t say I didn’t warn you)

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Cat (0) (@catalina) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

Also, just the other day when I was reading this thread, it brought lucid dreaming back to my attention so I ended up having a lucid dream the second night.
I wasn’t trying, it just happened, and I think I can explain why it was easier than usual. Here’s what happened: i was very tired, and wanted to sleep more but decided not to. I think being more tired than usual, having that irresistible urge to sleep is very important (probably what made it so easy in Jordan’s experience as well). So I decided to meditate for an hour, as I usually do. You don’t have to be experienced at it, I’m not either. (I recommend using binaural beats, mine is meditationprograms.com). After i finished though, I felt so tired I decided to just sleep for another hour and then go to work.
I realized I was dreaming and got up from the bed and did what I usually do, go down the stairs and get out the house (that’s a lie actually, I usually go out the window after I’d jumped in the room to check I’m dreaming). I actually put my boots on before going out, just in case I wasn’t dreaming. :) I went about my business and then started getting worried about the time. That somehow I’ll oversleep, not hear the alarm because I’m Ld-ing, not regular dreaming, that I’ll be late for work, that sort of nonsense. SO I decided to wake up and I did and checked the time and got really p****d off. It had only been about 10 minutes.
I’ve had this sort of thing happen to me before when I do other attention focusing exercises (EFT, TAT), but essentially you need something which increases your awareness and meditation will do that. But it’s important that you’re really tired.
I don’t know how you’ll be able to use this practically but that’s what works for me.

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Peeter (0) (@necrophagia) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

I just randomly checked the time, it was 35:04 and BOOM I was lucid dreaming.

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Bryan Hellard (307)M (@xyver) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

Well, just last night I started lucid dreaming a few times :) Both were really short lived, but it happened nonetheless. Pretty much as soon as I start getting lucid, I start waking up. Ive had a few where I’ve stayed asleep, but not in awhile

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PDC (31) (@chemicalspike) 10 years, 10 months ago ago

Well our perception of time is extremely relative, never more so than in dreans, and I’m fairly confident in the ability of our minds to create extra ordinary things and especially within dreams. Unfortunately I haven’t experienced it and fear I won’t though I may make an effort when my life is a touch more settled.

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JesseBob (0) (@jessebob) 10 years, 9 months ago ago

I have been lucid dreaming on and off my entire life. When I was a child I had a nightmare and told my mom about it. She told me that I could control my dreams. Just her telling me I could was enough for me to start doing it. I didn’t question it because I was young and impressionable, plus it was coming from my mom and I would believe anything she told me. I would wake up and tell my mom about my dreams that were so wild a lot of the time she thought I was making it up. I read a really good book on it a few years back. Kind of a step by step, can’t remember what it was called right now though.

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Ace (3) (@ace7) 10 years, 9 months ago ago

If you’re interested in learning how to lucid dream, the two resources that have been recommended to me are a book called “Exploring the World of Lucid Dreaming” and the companion PDF titled “A Course in Lucid Dreaming” (which can be found online for free) both written by Stephen LaBerge. These are how-to’s, and, from what I’ve read, are among the best out there.

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