Meditation Process

Gee (@dmitrievgera) 9 years, 7 months ago

I’m new to the whole meditating stuff but over the past year, I have been thinking open minded on many aspects (Smoking weed everyday and tripping occasionally had a lot to do with it). I’ve been attempting to meditate as much as I can the past month to get a better understanding of life and hopefully some how magically figure out a way to achieve some my life goals (ultimate happiness, money, love, etc.). What I usually do is sit in my computer chair, put on my headphones, and use one of these videos from youtube:


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JYueTqWmyo&list=PL98604008C536F986&index=2&feature=plpp_video

I close my eyes and attempt to get into the most relaxing state of mind I can achieve. Sometimes I feel some body sensations and get glimpses of light but it never lasts. I found that whenever I’m high, these experiences are slightly enhanced.

I feel like I’m so close to being spiritually awakened but can’t get past a unknown blockage. I have tried different positions (laying down, sitting cross legged) but laying down just makes me tired and sitting cross legged or the way most mediation stances are perceived, my legs begin to feel tight and tend to fall asleep…

My question is, Is there anything anyone recommends I can do from here to better my experience and activate the 3rd eye?

Also, what does your meditation process consist of?

June 18, 2012 at 11:11 am
Peaceflower (72) (@cosmicplur) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

I rarely use visuals.. closed eye visuals are the best way for me to travel in. Im not so super practiced either, but headphones help def.breathing is a good key. I like to try to focus my energy on one single thing, be it something I saw online that triggered a thought, something going on in your life, or more importantly, the world’s, or if youre listening to music, listen to it. Hear it.. tune in to it.

Think thats the extent of what I can give you. Hope it helps in some way

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Peaceflower (72) (@cosmicplur) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

Then the only thing I might suggest is, if you have to fight to keep your mind clear,its not ready to be dormant. Just follow your own intuition with it. Thats really the best way to do every and anything.

I love to think about a smile.

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Ben (231)M (@benjamin) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

Hate to tell ya this, but the ganja’s probably in the way. I really don’t think a little marijuana ever hurt anybody at all, but if your smokin the stuff every day it’s hard to achieve the kind of clear-headedness needed to really progress with meditation. Especially if you’ve been smoking regularly since you started meditating; it may seem like being stoned “enhances” meditation, but I think because being stoned is relaxing it makes you percieve this as being conducive to meditative states of mind. Relaxation/a feeling of peacefulness are not the goals of meditation: concentration is the goal. The relaxation comes as a result of developed concentration, which is thrown off by weed. Of course, though, you’d never notice this if you’ve only meditated during a period of your life where you’ve also smoked every day because you have no basis of completely sober comparison (you’re technically still a tiny but under the influence 24 – 48 hours after you smoke, it’s just so miniscule its impossible to notice after the initial high wears off).
I would say if you really want to commit yourself take a 2-week T-break and meditate the entire time. I think you’ll find especially at the end of those two weeks you’ll notice some progress. Worst comes to worst nothing happens and you get to be more stoned than you usually are when you go back to smokin :D Really though I’m not sayin you have to quit, cause weed really isn’t that harmful, but taking a break and reducing your use will help you concentrate quite a bit.
Here’s my reasoning: when you smoke weed, it’s a sensory enhancer. You don’t experience anything you wouldn’t while sober, but your senses are more sensitive to the vibrations that they pick up (hence why music sounds better, foods taste better, the couch is more comfy, etc). However, the goal of meditation is essentially to do this naturally by quieting your thoughts so you can concentrate on the vibrations more than usual. If you’re used to accomplishing this through smoking then your concentration is lazier because it is used to having its job done for it by the weed.
Also, my meditation process: I usually just close my eyes and follow my breath. I try to think of nothing; I replace thinking with noticing as deeply as I can how it feels to have breath flowing in and out of my body. Also, at the peak of inhaling, and after exhaling, I pause to take a short moment to listen to the sounds around me (which is why I like to meditate around nature). Usually the feeling of peace is what distracts me the most; I am super-concentrated on my breath and as a result start to feel very relaxed, but then focus on the relaxation instead of the breathing, and thereby lose concentration on the breathing and after that lose the feeling of meditative peace. But then I start over and it’s all good again :) Also, if my thoughts randomly go on a train while I’m meditating, I try to pay attention to what I started thinking about, where I got distracted, and where my thought train went. This helps me get to know my own mind better.
I’ll also say sitting down, eyes-closed meditation works for me, and for alot of other people, but I think because everyones built differently everyone will have a different way of meditatiing. For example, I have a friend who’s attention darts very quickly; he has tried traditional meditation but he can’t because of how his brain works. Instead, he says that reading and writing spanish poetry (he’s a native english speaker in the process of learning spanish) is meditative for him, so when he wants to meditate that’s what he does. Also, alot of the time for me skateboarding is more meditative than sitting down and closing my eyes. It forces me into the present moment, because if I don’t concentrate on skating I’ll eat shit. I’d say try to be weed-free for a tiny bit and keep on keepin on with this kind of meditation, cause you seem like someone who could get somewhere with it, but also know that there could be some random activity in life which helps you meditate/develop concentration more than traditional meditation does.

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Sean LeBlanc (76) (@bongodeburrito) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

I begin by laying in corpse pose (on your back straightened out, hands palm down at your side) and beginning breathing and clearing my head. I then proceed to a slow, deliberate stretching process, like a pre-run warm up. After I’m done I get into Half-lotus (It used to be full lotus until I tweaked my knee) and focus on my breath. Slow in, slow out. I try to focus on all the sensations of my body, my legs touching each other and the ground, my hands touching each other, etc. My mind tends to wander, and when it does, I visualize the thought being condensed until it disappears. The weed definitely doesnt help. However, I recommend meditating after a mushroom trip. When you come down and have that cleansed feeling, there’s no better time if you ask me.

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Peaceflower (72) (@cosmicplur) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

Awesome awesome suggestions.

The body sensation thing, yes! I actually did that a couple of nights ago with a guided meditation. Luckily for me, the grass is ultra conducive.

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Sean LeBlanc (76) (@bongodeburrito) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

He Gee, I cant see your post if you tag me in it, so if you could send it again without the tag, I’d be glad to continue the conversation.

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Gee (5) (@dmitrievgera) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

Thanks everyone for the advice.

Sean, Have you ever attempted to meditate while peaking?

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Sean LeBlanc (76) (@bongodeburrito) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

I have not. During the whole tripping process I like to enjoy the space of my head and kind of float around in there while interacting with my friends and whatnot, but I guess I’m in a constant state of active meditation during the whole process. During the peak I like being outside and walking around, whether it be in nature or down a city street. I take all of it in, and I resolve whatever issues may be on my mind allowing my head to be clear by the time I start to come down which makes the meditation all the more clear.

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Gee (5) (@dmitrievgera) 9 years, 7 months ago ago

That sounds exactly how my trips go but I haven’t attempted to meditate yet. Definitely will next time.

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