Microchips

krkrich (@krkrich) 8 years, 3 months ago

Hello everyone,

For a long time I had stopped caring about conspiracies and other bullshit that I have no control over. For one, I realized I would never have proof of any of them & for two, even if these things were true, what would me knowing them & talking about them with friends do? Nothing! Plus, there are far too many conspiracies & I can never tell whats real & whats bullshit/ distractions. So I stopped caring & wasting my time on them.

Well anyway, recently I saw a picture someone took on Instagram of an ad on the wall of a tube station in London & it said “Your DNA will be your data.” There was a picture of a finger with one of those barcodes that you take a picture with on your smartphone.

When you look around at some of the current technology, you start to see a lot more scanning of barcodes & microchips. Like the entry wristband that I got to this music festival had this tiny microchip in it that they scanned to verify that the wristband was real. The 1st time they scanned my wrist, I was high as shit & on shrooms so I understand I could of just been paranoid, but the vibe that I got from walking thru security & scanning my wrist was bad. I didn’t like it one bit.

This is all pretty crazy technology and it amazes me so much. But at the same time, I know there have been “conspiracy theorists” who have been saying for years that we will have microchips installed in us. That sounded absolutely crazy at one point but looking at the world now, that really doesn’t seem too far off.

So my question to you all is what do you guys think? Is the microchipping of human beings really going to happen? Is it a bad thing if it does?

Thanks for reading.

June 24, 2014 at 12:12 am
Alruble (10) (@Alruble) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

There are a multitude of positives and negatives. The microchipping of humans is already here. :) It’s just not prevalent. People are obviously scared of it still. It could make our lives a lot easier. There are numerous possible applications. It can function as an ID does, for just one. It’s up to the individual to decide whether or not this is disturbing and invasive. I seriously doubt implants will be ever be mandatory anywhere – Perhaps in 100+ years there will be a massive change to the world order. Who knows? A tiny chip containing information would be largely useful, and implanting it would make it greatly difficult to lose. The many pros and cons will probably be debated more often as we advance.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

“It will make our lives easier.”
“Pros and cons.”

The exact words spoken by every average clown whenever corrupt asshats put a price tag on their lives.

A little bit of ease, a little bit of comfort or pleasure, a little bit of security… that’s all it takes to own a normal person. That’s the dirt cheap price tag on your life, your freedom, your dignity, your morals, etc.

It’s been centuries since war was the method the fat cats use to enslave people. It’s outdated, it has unpredictable side effects, it costs too much, it’s not very efficient.
Offering an easier, more indulgent and irresponsible life, that’s how they enslave people these days.
Doesn’t even take fat cats to do it, even the most average of commoners can subdue and conquer lots of people this way.

The biggest cause of humanity’s downfall is the pathetic price tags all the commoners carry around their necks.

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Alruble (10) (@Alruble) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

You are rather negative. There are humans who want to help each other in this world. Meeting some could help you redefine how you think, as it seems that you’ve fallen into a mindset of anxiety and skepticism that makes you wary of things that should be observed from multiple lenses. Yes, the cats exist.

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who (557) (@season) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

You say negative as if you can have a positive without it. As if the truth is not the two reconciled. Could you explain?

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Alruble (10) (@Alruble) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

His approach was to attack, rather than to understand. Most of us within this community have an understanding of what he describes. His using of an almost archaic term, “fat cats”, and description of openmindedness as being a “clown” to be controlled was thoroughly unproductive and sort of insulting. I’ve been around here for a while, though my account may be newborn, and I’m familiar with Manimal, so it wasn’t so offensive to me, but attacking usually breeds negativity in one being accosted.

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Anonymous (64) (@) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

There is a concept called the ‘singularity’ which is the notion that as technology exponential advances there will come a time where humans and machines will merge. Already we use computers to leverage our imagination, exponentially increase our knowledge, and communicate across the planet as a hive mind at the speed of light. It seems inevitable and the logical progression that we will, in the very near future, use implantable computer processors to leverage this technology.

One time when drinking Ayahuasca I was thinking about this concept of ‘the singularity’ and I was shown a vision that made me believe this merging of technology and biology has happened before and we, as sentient lifeforms, are the byproduct of a previous union between a type of organism and the technology it created. That our human flesh is a type of biological machine and that our DNA is the computer programming and a blueprint that is purposefully erecting the complex technological world around us so that we can once again merge with it. It is an iterative process, a subroutine of sorts. In this vision I was also made aware that our brains are actually some sort of engineered biological and technological two-way antenna for our consciousness which resides elsewhere. And the point at which the transmission is received in our brains is the pineal gland.

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who (557) (@season) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Think about if our technology WAS our biology. If we just stopped looking externally and allowed people to have super-capable bodies without having to sequester in the mountains for half a lifetime.

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tearoom (6) (@tearoom) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@AreNotLost, have you watched 2001 a space oddyssey

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krkrich (148) (@krkrich) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@alruble I agree with you that there are a ton of pros & cons. There would basically be no need for a wallet, cash, credit/debit cards & other important documents that you could lose. But then again, its kind of like you are constantly being tracked no matter where you go & what you do. At least today, we voluntarily give up that information, whether it be thru social networks or using your debit card/credit card to make purchases. But with the chip, you have no choice. And its not like I do anything or go anywhere that needs to stay secretive, but the whole idea just makes me feel like a giant foot is coming to step down on my freedom.

@arenotlost its funny that you mention singularity because I just recently heard about that. While it does seems a little scary to me, I do think that a future level of human evolution will involve humans & technology combining.

Your ayahuasca trip sounds pretty fucking sick. I mean, if you think about it, we really are kind of like a really complex, high-tech machine. I had a similar experience on weed after not smoking for a long time. For a brief moment, I had a vision of everything being data traveling inside like a giant machine. Idk if I was inside of my head or what but I remember feeling like my consciousness was coming from a higher place.

Thanks for sharing guys.

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Anonymous (64) (@) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Check out this video by Jason Silva. I first learned about the singularity by listening to him. He is a pretty interesting guy – technologist, futurist, optimist.

Ayahuasca took me to that place where our consciousness is transmitted from. Hard to describe. Technologically advanced, like a cathedral. Massive. It is one singular consciousness that we all share. Or at least it is all transmitted from this one place. Saw, but did not interact, with these beings that tended to this technological consciousness. Best I can describe them they looked like praying mantises on a huge scale. They too received their consciousness from this place, as did Ayahuasca. The praying mantis entities were born into this position. Almost like reverent monks dutifully tending toward their liberation. Ayahuasca didn’t know the origin of this consciousness producing machine. She just wanted to share her reverence and awe of this technological place with me.

Peace, love, and hope friend.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Hallucinations are just that, hallucinations.
Are you really void of scepticism, reason and critical thinking? Accepting a drug-induced dream as some greater truth… are you really that gullible and closed-minded?

That video… that guy is very dumb.
First of all, a brain creating a brain better than itself… doesn’t happen. Especially not with inferior materials.
Second, it wouldn’t be freedom. It would indeed be the ultimate prison, trapped inside an illusion, confusing the distortions with reality.

It isn’t thinking outside the box, it’s creating another box inside the box and crawling into it… then gouging your eyes out and filling your ears with cement.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Of course it’s going to happen. Did you really think that the people on top wouldn’t take such an opportunity?
As long as there is technology and corrupt people, things like this are unavoidable.

Unless there’s a huge war that ruins the technology and/or the corrupt people, the world is heading for some really, really, really dark times.

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krkrich (148) (@krkrich) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

So what the fuck can we do then? I don’t want to become a living navigation system. We just have to accept this as our fate? Is moving off the grid the only solution?

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

This is why it’s pretty much inevitable for most people.
You all think you’re powerless, meaningless, devoid of responsibility. You’re already programmed, more or less. Not by force, but by compliance.

You don’t have to accept anything as your fate. You don’t have to escape from anything, and even if you had to it would be a very short-lived solution.
There’s far more of you than there is of them, all their power is handed to them by all of you.
They’re outnumbered and outgunned, but they’re the likely winners because nobody on your side is doing anything about it.

Too lazy, too comfortable, too ignorant. Too busy obsessing over the things THEY offer you in exchange for your compliance.
Nothing is for free, nothing ever was, nothing ever will be.

It’s as simple as standing up for what’s right and standing your fucking ground.
But no, that’s apparently to much to ask of you people. No wonder they see you as livestock.

Wake the fuck up. DO something.

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Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

I really think that is the solution. This culture and society- which is now basically globalized- is a sinking ship. The vast majority will go down with it I think. But the thing is, it’s all a choice. Nobody is forcing microchips. The people in charge can’t outright force things anymore… it’s too obvious and would be met with too much criticism. They have to convince you that it’s the right thing to do, and that’s pretty easy because people are bred not to have critical thinking skills.

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Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

They will be able to outright force things if enough people don’t refuse to go along with everything though. Or people will be too docile and brainwashed to even need to be forced.

These are the most manipulative and conniving people on the face of the planet. Manipulation and sleight of hand are their game. They don’t use chains and whips. There is no physical control anymore. It’s all in the mental realm. All you have to do is use critical thinking skills and regain control of your own mind, and then they completely lose all their power.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Yes. That’s the whole cause of frustration because some people understand how inevitably controllable we are. It has been for a very long time now. From the Luddites to the Surrealists to the “Hipsters” of today.

Read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

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who (557) (@season) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Bentham himself described the Panopticon as “a new mode of obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example.”[1] Elsewhere, he described the Panopticon prison as “a mill for grinding rogues honest”.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

It brings out a whole new set of questions regarding these issues. It could be that some of these latest political leaks are pre-planned. All the leaks so far are just confirming old news. As Orwellian as that sounds, It’s kind of head spinning to think about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_hangout

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who (557) (@season) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

All I’m gonna say is yup.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Yar

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jazzz (30) (@jazzz) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

It nice that we get to choose our reality me thinks

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krkrich (148) (@krkrich) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@manimal I enjoy your responses on this site man. You’re like the father who cares but shows it in a harsh way. Haha.

Ok, so perhaps a better question then: what are YOU going to do?

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krkrich (148) (@krkrich) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

This isn’t directly related to microchips but its along the same lines: Did you guys know that the police can run your phone number to see if you were using your phone while driving?

My roommate got into a car accident the other day & the cop ran the phone numbers of every driver involved in the car accident. That absolutely blew my mind. Idk how detailed the information is that comes up but its enough for them to know if you were on your phone at the time of the accident. I imagine they have access to all your data, call history, browser history & usage time, text messages, and so on. Scary.

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who (557) (@season) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Just assume they have everything. Even if they didn’t for a while, and suddenly gained the legality to do so, they might not tell you. This is America.

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