Obedience

 m. (@mjmf826) 10 years, 6 months ago

I just finished watching The Nun’s Story, an Audrey Hepburn film in which Hepburn’s character struggles throughout her nunhood to Obey.

Which got me wondering….do you think our society emphasizes obedience to our detriment?

How has this emphasis permeated our lives and influenced our decisions, our actions?

When have you experienced pressure to conform to what society portrays as "good" or "right"?

How have you reacted defiantly against this "call" for Obedience?

April 13, 2011 at 5:38 am
mario (12) (@mario82) 10 years, 6 months ago ago

yes totally, society wants us to punch in to a time clock and work at a single task, and after 30 or 40 years you can retire. you can only defy it so much, or they will put you in a cage to live in.
me, I defy it by driving without a license, not paying taxes, and growing vegetables in my garden.

also, obidience allows people like hitler to control masses of people.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

do you think our society emphasizes obedience to our detriment?

Uhh, yea. Extremetly much.

How has this emphasis permeated our lives and influenced our decisions, our actions?

Look around you: people following norms, people slaving away 40 hours a week to fuel someone else’s dream, people watching tv, people consuming and consuming. This is all because they simply obey. People have no lives, they just think they do, because they’ve been told to think that too.

When have you experienced pressure to conform to what society portrays as “good” or “right”?

People nagging at me to get a job, a relationship, this and that product, go to university, do what everyone else does and so on. I just think that’s funny though.

How have you reacted defiantly against this “call” for Obedience?

Back in the day I joined in a lot of activism, then I just stopped caring and decided to rise above all of it and help others do the same.

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Grand Kahlib (76) (@kahlib) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

atrocities are perpetuated by ordinary people being obedient, whether to an idea or a leader.

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Flynnstone (813) (@flynnstone) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

I learned that if you obey someone, they’ll usually not be as paranoid about you breaking rules, and may eventually forget that you were human enough to defy them in any way. Works for teachers too. Act like sheep, they’ll think you’re sheep until you pull off the mask one day.
I always felt like if I wanted to listen to someone I would, but it was harder to respect people I had to obey. Ever had anyone go on a power trip?

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Michael (30) (@mikey) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

I have a problem with authority in general, and I tend to be a rule breaker. Why the fuck should I follow someones rules who I don’t have an ounce of respect for.

I really just want to live my life how the fuck I want to live it, and if I respect you as a human being and you give me wisdom I take it and learn from it. But if it a politician or businessman and they try to impart there wisdom I am more likely to tell them to go fuck themselves.

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becomingUndone (15) (@morro) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

Although there are certain times when obedience may be beneficial (if an individual has more expertise in a given area and is working towards the benefit of you and themselves, if they can coincide), there seem to be many more instances where obedience is very detrimental – take the holocaust or the Milgram Shock experiment for examples of the latter.

For me, it is not a matter of following those who have authority over me to the point of “obeying”. I understand that some regulations are in place to protect people from harm (certain laws, regulations…), however, most of what I choose to do, I like to think I choose at my own behest, without obeying what others dictate to me – I do not needlessly surround myself with consumption, I try to have stimulating relationships without feeling forced to do anything I don’t want – recently I have greatly decreased my interest in, and attendance of, my university classes because I feel as though they are becoming less and less important to me. This is all a matter of opinion – what is obeying or not obeying for me is certainly not the same as obeying or not obeying for you, or anyone else in the world. So look to your own actions and see if they are being guided by someone outside yourself, and ask whether or not they are good for you – if not, don’t do them anymore.

Thats my advice, obey it or not as you will!

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BirdFlyingHigh (152) (@birdflyinghigh) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

I don’t mind authority if it is good authority, who actually wants to see me develop and grow.

I like being obedient to those who are wiser than me, as long as they’re ok with me questioning them when I feel the need.

I long for a mentor right now, who I would gladly obey.

The part about obedience that everyone forgets is that if the person is a good teacher and leader, they won’t abuse your trust by asking unnecessary obedience.

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TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

@birdflyinghigh that’s exactly the trouble. Good teachers and leaders are so precious hard to find, most people who do ask, no, demand your obedience (politicians, bosses, I’m looking in your direction!) do so for their gain, which is our loss.

Also, I too have a problem with authority in general. We no longer live in the age of kings and chiefs; I know the “power” they have is not divine. They are just human beings, no better than me. That’s part of why I hate jobs so much.

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