In response to some recently brought up issues, this thread is being created to better inform users about trolling and the appropriate actions to take against trolls.
“A troll is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a forum, chat room, or blog), either accidentally or with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.” (Taken from Wikipedia)
Please reference these guidelines if a troll is encountered:
— 1. Don’t feed the troll. —
You will probably regret it if you do :) Solely bent on creating discord, replying to one of their post potentially aids them in their cause. The best thing to do is to “starve” the troll – pay them little to no attention. If you acknowledge someone as being one, ignore them and go about your business.
— 2. Refrain from fighting the troll (argue, chase, outwit, etc.) —
Arguing with trolls is pointless and more along the line aids them in their amusement. It’s kind of like that saying about arguing with idiots – “They will drag you down to their level, and beat you with years of experience.”
In an abstract way, fighting a troll is similar to fighting a destructive fire. Irritated by it burning everything, you wish to put it out. In going about doing so though, you get to close to it and become the fire yourself. Spreading, engulfing everything in your path, you create more of what you sought to put out.
If you feel the troll getting under your skin, just chill – bring it back a little bit. Maybe forgive them for being the way they are and go about your way? Something I’ve come across lately and really dig is this quote on forgiveness – “Forgive others, not because they deserve it, but because you deserve peace.” — Jonathan Lockwood Huie
— 3. Notify a Moderator —
Part of our job is to handle disputes between users and manage the forum environment you all interact in. If you feel someone is “derailing” a discussion, or if another user’s words have offended you, please notify a moderator of the issue so it can be handled accordingly and appropriate action taken.
Identifying when people are attempting to appeal to your ego is something you can automatically observe; when people appeal to your ego it is generally in order to manipulate you in some way. As a troll does it, they will challenge your ideology; the way in which you see as an appropriate blend of compassion and efficiency, a troll will aggravate logic as it applies to that balance.
But appealing to ego works in another way; we are tempted to agree with ideas that justify behaviour that is related to our fears or desires; these compulsions are irrational but often overwhelming, so rather than working against the difficulty we have in disciplining them, we like to seek out reasoning that supports perpetuating them.
Those are two ways our ego can work contrary to observations and how knowledge is supposed to serve that sense rather than replace it. Knowledge comes from observation, and it is supposed to ultimately serve natural values that are revealed in observations, such as compassion and efficiency, but people are at risk of ignoring observation all together because they are conditioned to trust acquired knowledge more, that is our challenge.
Reality is what we observe not the interpretation of it that we design in our minds, the former doesn’t lie while the latter is a facsimile by definition, quite often a poor one at that. That fact should naturally determine the prioritisation of your perspective dependence. Basically; justice/injustice and practicality/impracticality are automatically revealed when we observe them, the only way we can miss that is by existing in our minds interpretation of reality rather than just trusting our senses as they observe.
@trek79, I totally agree with this. Got to watch out for when the trolls appeal to your ego. I can’t say that there has been any time when I walked away from an internet fight actually feeling it was worth it. Rather, I wish I had that time back instead. Case in point, don’t feed the trolls.
Moderators are are anyone who has the “Moderator” tag under their name on their account page. I don’t know who all the moderators are, but here’s a list of the ones I do know (mainly taken from the faq thread):
You can contact them by going to there account page and sending them a message.
You will probably ignore this point (which goes against your enlightened persona, but such is life…) but why do you only select which posts are “bad” or not? You’ll probably cite “subjectivity” but then why not account for that when making the board rules? Isn’t this in general how rulings are made, to account for contingencies?
We moderate on stuff like:
– aggressiveness (insults, swearing, constant personal attacks etc.)
Apart from that there are no bad posts. If you have a different opinion than somebody else and you keep it ‘normal’ then you don’t have to fear anything. If you experience problems with the moderators please contact me or @martijn,
You assume a lot, but that’s ok. This thread and the guidelines were discussed by many before being posted, as well as actions to take for future occurrences of trolling.
All questions will tried to be answered so there is no confusion.
Just using my dog’s name and distracting myself.
Some things are very suspicious around here though. I don’t know if trolling includes making things up but I’ve already lost my temper a few times and was baffled. Or meddle. I’m starting to think trolling is what people used to call stupidity manifested in egomania.
I learned that from a book called “Duh! The Stupid History Of The Human Race” by Bob Fenster
But the book is at least fun to read…
It’s true. Laughter is better than an orgasm for me. If someone isn’t encouraging emotional, intellectual, artistic or spiritual growth I’m not keeping them around. And humor consists of everything. Irrelevant troll humor on the other hand… isn’t uplifting.
You’re right about not having to tolerate everything.
But this isn’t trolling. http://i.imgur.com/f0kcxd5.png
“Think about yourself at least once in your life, otherwise you might miss the best comedy in the world.”
Who is Sacho?
I know all of you have issues with me, but then from MY standpoint it’s a two-way street.
As said, the mods here only seem to protect their friends, they clearly as spiritualists have disregard for basic human interactions and other “silly temporal affairs”.
Its getting hard to tell who is trolling, who is a shill trying to derail this site, or whether my ego is just feeling threatened. Like that post about Eckhart Tolle/ A New Earth being wrong & promoting evil. But then I feel like I may have like a trolling red fever & may be considering everything I don’t agree with as some form of inauthenticity.
trollin’ for the big one
that’s good, except you are often too partial.
you don’t like some people, granted, it’s human. doesn’t mean you can select which comments go unheeded though, does it? ;)
This thread might better answer your question: https://www.highexistence.com/topic/on-mods-closing-threads/