Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition

Ray Butler (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago

Weigh it up, write a list of pros and cons, even post it on here, I challenge you. Just in bulletpoint form (no pun intended) instead of rattling off statistics, simply write what you gain and the drawbacks from having guns so accessable and common in society. Then once you do write them here, we can go through them point by point and see if we can find some objective reasoning.

February 2, 2013 at 10:33 am
winslow (85) (@winslow) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@trek79, People here hunt for food with guns. We also take pride in them.. Havent even heard of a shooting in a couple of years so…. Pros- food, protection, pleasure. Cons- Nada.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@winslow, Where are you from?

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winslow (85) (@winslow) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@trek79, East Texas

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@winslow, When you say you take pride in your guns, you mean you clean it, you maintain it in a professional manner, you handle it with respect and you don’t let people have access to it without your supervision or consent?

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winslow (85) (@winslow) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Are you trying to make me answer this question in a way that will give you some Firepower? I mostly have antique guns myself, so I have a definite pride without cleaning or maintaining them because I dont shoot them and wont unless I had to. Nobody else has access to them by key and lock. But if a friend wanted to borrow one I would let them, no questions asked. Now the typical man here has at least a rifle for deer hunting, a 12 gauge shotgun for duck hunting, something smaller like a .22 for other game, and some sort of pistol. I have seen families with hundreds of guns though(and closets of ammunition), and they dont plan on harming anyone with them unless they needed to protect themselves or their family. And to give you some bullets to shoot with, I have friends with cool guns(desert eagle, ar10, ak47, tech9, 9 millimeters, semi automatics, full automatics.) And you know what we do with them?? We shoot at beer cans!!

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

So we have Hunting: That would cover both for food and for pest control.
Sport: In target practice.
Protection: From what? Bears and gangbangers?

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@winslow, I’m not Pierce Morgan bro, I am interested in getting some points of view.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@winslow, How common place is it to have guns under lock and key when not being used? I mean you do it but is it a typical trend in your area?

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Anonymous (254) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Pro. Guns are stylish. Everyone wants a Derringer.

Con. I don’t want to have to buy a gun just to fit in.

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

The gun, the American dream, me > you. We are haphazardly and carelessly drawn to the power of that feeling of holding a gun in your hand – not just holding a gun in your hand. THINKING WITH YOUR DICK? Buddy, we’re not gorillas. We are transcendental electronic entities. We can be more creative than guns. Let’s just stop holding onto old ways.
edit: and to do that everyone needs to stop being so receptive and god damn influenced. We police each other. The gun isn’t helping.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mimic, Sweet a Deringer, or a Thompson, I like as Winslow said, a Desert Eagle.
@danfontaine, They say guns are the great equalizer, a smart person can out think you, a strong person can out wrestle you, but any numbscull can pull a trigger, that comes down to the quick and the dead.

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@trek79, Yup that’s careless. You should be beaten by the better man, lest growth does not occur. Is he even better than you or are you just reacting like a toddler though?

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@danfontaine, My friends says that if he is standing at the bar and someone king-hits him in the back of the head sucker punch style and KOs him, he says he was in a fight and he lost.
I think people need to not have to understand things for a few of reasons: 1) it is hard work 2) we hate finding out we are wrong 3) we have to be responsible. Three big sucky things that people don’t like.
I think there is something in people that is best described as gravity, it takes effort to hold a stone up but when you release it, it falls, that is all it is, people are too lazy to keep holding the stone, they figure “There is no point in holding this stupid stone, it is only making my arm sore” if you see the metaphor.

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winslow (85) (@winslow) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@trek79, No, mostly they are located behind every door in the house. Haha.. Nobody looks behind a door they just opened. Really though, most people have a gun cabinet and we are all taught at a young age not only how to be safe with a gun but how to hit a bullseye. It is for protection from intruders, and our law states that this is perfectly acceptable. There are also Coyotes and Wild hogs that can and will kill you and eat you. And there is no cell phone reception so you are on your own..

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@trek79, As unorthodox as your friend sounds I think he has a beautiful point. You somehow wronged that person that king hit you. Whether it was intentional or not. It’s like carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders. Being responsible for the change you want to see in the world.
Yes a lot of negativity arising out of pride. I find that things are better understood when I let them maintain their liquid/wave like nature instead of condensing them in my mind.
@ your last paragraph, ya – called being a bitch. The willingness to die. Giving up. When we lose the outward momentum we tend to cripple inward. Right now in my life I am stressing that outwardness. I am subjecting people to myself left and right (while I used to be a recluse). As long as I can love myself for my actions at the end of the night I know I am making perfect action.

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Nick (554) (@splashartist) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@trek79, Here in Canada we hunt moose and deer, have you ever had moose jerkey? I have access to over 10 guns right meow and I have yet to kill anyone :D
Besides hunting, self defense (although if no one had guns they wouldn’t be necessary), and shooting for fun like target practice I don’t see any other uses. Maybe someone can enlighten me?

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@winslow, Why take pride in the guns? Fucking use them and put them down.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@winslow, Cool. I know exactly what hogs are like, we have Razor-backs here in Oz, these bastards can gut you like you are nothing. I think you just stated the real solution, the one I have supported from the beginning of this “Gun control debate” way back, and that is education on how to be safe. That includes appropriatly securing the weapons, I think that regulations should be focusing on people respecting the weapon.
People have lost that love for the gun, it is basically your lover, you respect her and you protect her, especially from other “men” getting their grubby mits all over her, although it’s fine to swing with your buddies if you get down like that, as long as you are sure they don’t have any STDs (all metaphor).
So basically that is what I believe but the thing is; you have to have some kind of assurances that people have this education and respect.

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@trek79, Fucking respect dude for the guns dude? You sound insane.

Ya now let me start worshipping black cock.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@danfontaine, It is a tool, I get you, the thing is; My dad freaks out if someone takes his screwdriver without asking, and if they ask he says “NO!” the shed is on lockdown, if gun owners were half as strict about their guns as my dad is about his spanner, problem solved. When you are looking at guns, they are designed to be deadly, they have to be treated that way, that is all I mean by respect.

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@trek79, Guess I haven’t been introduced to this whole realm of some material item having so much significance. I have no use for a gun neither a knife in my life – other than serving up dinner. Your Dad sounds like he’s off his rocker xD

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Dan (890) (@danfontaine) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Oh my God he’s sitting up, everybody panic!!!!

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Pros:

+ Equal terms. Government and crime gangs have guns, if normal people don’t have guns that means the bad guys have an advantage. The criminals will always find ways to get guns anyway, and there’s a lot of gun use in countries where it’s illegal.

+ Less risk of being assaulted/robbed/raped if you have a gun.

+ Less tyrrany. If some people can have guns and others can’t, the ones with guns will harass and oppress those without guns. Police and crime gangs for example.

Cons:

– Clumsy dumbasses will cause gun accidents.

That’s the only con.

Guns don’t kill people, people do.
I’ve never owned a gun, and I don’t want one, but people who want guns shouldn’t be held down.
Many household items could be used as weapons, even deadly projectile weapons, you don’t hear anyone complaining about those being legal do you?

“Like I always say, an honest society is an armed society.”

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danni (5) (@dani) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@splashartist, do u eat the deer??

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Nick (554) (@splashartist) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@dani, Why else would you hunt it! Trophy hunting is messed up.

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