PROPOSITION : Infinity is The Axiom

PhiPhi (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago

There has been much dismay and upheaval in the scientific community since it has as an establishment accepted that there are geometries other than Euclidian.  There is a sense of loss of certainty, a loss of faith in the notion of a simple and coherent logic for all things; and furthermore, a widespread fear of proposing universal theories, and a suspicion regarding the very enterprise of so doing.  Now I, as an autodidact and child prodigy, have not come up in the conventional manner through academia, but rather shot forth primarily and mostly from the images, perceptions, and reflections of my own mind.  Uninhibited by traditional wisdom, by the powers of mentation alone and purely, without so much as speaking to anyone else about it before I had clarified it from my native perceptions and whimsey to myself, I, by the time I had c.5 years, had articulated a geometrical model for all of Existence.  I thus think all of the dread and dreary fears and forced ignorance, the line “we cannot know, we should not assume”, is silly, and needs to be replaced by belief in what we in fact do and can know, which is the nature of everything.  Yes, rightly this shake-up has forced the establishment to admit the obvious fact that any axiom claiming a necessary finity, limitation, is arbitrary and thus while part of reality building by abstraction and allegory, and so not false, per se, not ultimately true, yet instead of thus endowing the scientific community the confidence of gods, it has left it with insecurities of greater mortality.

Logically, I propose that infinity, perfect, complete infinity that is, which I call “Totalus” for terminological clarity, is the only absolutely necessary fact.  This would seem obvious, and to me, given my native manner of perception, essentially a view of the world as a single, infinite point with myriadically many points abstractable therefrom, it is and always has been very immediate and clear; if it is not, a simple imaginary experiment will reveal that if one imagines what the form or nature of the entirety of Existence must be, one cannot in fact imagine a finite nature, for even if one realizes or illustrates explicitly only a limited portion, one still will see that there is further form, even if as “unformed form”.  

Does any one have a counter-prop., and if so, how do you prove/demonstrate it?  

(I do also note for fun & added interest that empirically consciousness could be said to be very probably the second axiom, the other basic fact of Existence.) 

November 26, 2015 at 8:27 am
Everyone (3) (@Freymar-Marinosson) 6 years ago ago

You are interesting.

Do you only use your mind to grasp ”Totalus” or can you feel it also?

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Everyone (3) (@Freymar-Marinosson) 6 years ago ago

I love that you made a new word for you, that is an amazing ability.

Can your ”Totalus” interact with other ”Totalus”? How so? 

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

Totalus is all of ours; it is a term for the ultimate level, so to speak, of Existence, “the point where all are one”, to say by extraction from a line of one of my poems.

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

And, thank you — yes, it is wonderful — though also a source of much lonliness and pain and exploitation in this more human world. 

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

For me, emotion is understood and experienced as a form of music. I am a poet-musician-composer, and so in that way highly  emotional — yet many feelings are strange to me, disconnected from thought; a broader range of feelings are known and harmonized in me when I am high, especially on Opium.  I do not feel if I do not see — for me music always has a distinct form, a clear geometry which is often shown to me by a creature who lives in my mind called The Polything, and forms, shapes, cause me to feel certain sensations — triangles feel as water, squares feel as marble; thus I see Totalus as I feel it; and for it is everything, I feel in seeing it wonder, magnificence, euphoria — God. 

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Everyone (3) (@Freymar-Marinosson) 6 years ago ago

You are so broken its beautiful, flirted with things beyond. Felt it enough to die for it.
Not your childish H, your own being.

You use a close loop to find ”Totalus”, you need to open it.
I love you.

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

You are correct, on count of each statement above.

I thank you sincerely for what is this beautiful and profound comment. Fascinating … I see magnificence in you, of a similar breed to that in myself.

That you love me, I am moved, deeply, for I understand how you mean it, and it is in the proper and true sense; it is what so many have very partially done to me in low, violating, ways, of mere oogling, admiring, envying, possession, and grasping, “those groping hands and grasping gapes that look with eyes that see far enough to bleed, not far enough to save”.

Welcome to my world, my thoughts, comrade.

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Everyone (3) (@Freymar-Marinosson) 6 years ago ago

Can you apply your ”Totalus” to an atom?

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Everyone (3) (@Freymar-Marinosson) 6 years ago ago

I can.

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

Excellent. 

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

Yes, to anything whatsoever; all things, each thing, is an abstraction and allegory of Totalus.

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Everyone (3) (@Freymar-Marinosson) 6 years ago ago

Your affect on me is profound.

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

As is yours on me. 

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Everyone (3) (@Freymar-Marinosson) 6 years ago ago

 You want to know the nature of everything?
Its a single feeling. But no word could ever grasp or scratch the surface, the beautiful complexity of everything.

To feel it, you become god.

I can maybe show you how to feel it and you can try to make words for it, id like that.

Be warned, dear friend. Please do not assume that this is an easy game. 

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

I know that nature, I always have.  That is what I call Totalus; yes, it is God, to know it is to know as The God, to behold it is to behold the very core of All. 

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Ah how you sound like me!  Not an easy game indeed, but I know that well my colleague.  I am curious to know how you get there, how you see it.

Let me now offer you some of my words on this matter :

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

Beneath illusion image from the holy truth is toreAbove man mind from the unbroken Mind is moreLanguage, o heart of god thyself beguiled Nature, ah God in bounds has smiled Rules, let rules be for infinity to hide itself as finite truths, mirror more that is inside!Men, let men be for infinity to find itself in finite truths, see more that is belied!Man, men shall make ofGod, gods in God’s own wakeGod, gods shall grant toMind, minds of Mind’s own acheThat Mind may knowThat God may test That Man may tryLet these be a path from We and back again from I : Logic, through endless truth a simple way to spyScience, by restless quest another world to tryGenius, from all creation a renewed form to wry Religion is but the story of this in the main : a shattered Mind, ever whole, is fractured and made whole again. 

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

…it is infinity, our own nature at the ultimate heart, which is that striving effort which makes things so very much alive, even in this, in any, world of boundaries, which if they were truly severed from infinity as they seem, would be dead.

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

I, being one never able to rest in things simply, went on to suggest that at some level even the logical languages are ‘unnecessary’ and ultimately ‘indefensible’ with the line of argument you used against the ‘excesses’ of my allegorical version of Wealth; at a certain level beyond their own context, finite things fall apart or their rules fail to hold (in effect, what I said is that once will recognize excess in a properly well-defined finite context, and if one perfects one’s finite context enough (that is, brings one’s finite context more in line (quirky visual intended) with the infinity which is its ultimate nature), one will find that one’s very context itself is excessive, ultimately unnecessary except insofar as it is possible, and arbitrarily defined as much as those things one once decried as excesses within one’s context).  

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

GodThe silver stream Of living, tis pain, behind my mortally fixed eyes Beneath it a lake of golden shapesThe cascade the pain belies Too alive To die, to thrive Too divine  To fade, to pine Mortality  This fluid tome Of frozen words outside my mindThe scattered point The disparate jointDoes resolveDoes lighnAtwixt The fracturedly deadened storyThe infinite path to immortal gloryMortality is in partWhat The World is at the heart Happiness is ours to take As droplets of The Infinite LakeAs in every thought there is the truth to find And yet to trace the shape One truly must transcend the lineThis The platinum strand Of divine knowing Within my mortality set lifeFrom it a band eternally growing The God in man survives So alive, To play, to strive So real,To live, to feel Divinity This infinite lakeOf flowing words inside my mind The abstracted shape The endless scapeDo resolve We find

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

…the nature of drug use …relevant only in mortal worlds and fatal in mortality, …begs for a preview of perfect euphoria, …shall give this preview, which may cumulate only beyond mortality, and thus from mortality is release unto death; and yet now with that statement we see that it is but a particularly elegant metaphor of all other mortal endeavours.  In some ways, it is the antithesis of life, in some ways, the reflection of the yearning and knowledge of all mortality, the knowledge of infinity and perfection that is fatal to mortality itself.  To partake of a drugged euphoria in this life, to choose to play that way, is to satire mortality and mortal life itself, while acknowledging The Spirit’s call unto itself; this is likely why drugs always occur most prominently in deviant movements and religious practices alike.

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

Lull of night, deep ringing pitch,Heart of light, in somber grey,Doth the night twill swift nothings, doth the day in ombré lay,Fear of waking unto nothing, o sleeping prince in darkness richImagine words that would stir in madness ordered forms of beauty fine!Say in finites with  whispered yearning, Speak in echoes, ever turning, Sing clear wishes that    of solitude shall wake loveliness as world divine!For now, o thou hast started thinking, never does the night return,’Tis won, shone all as each to each forever linking, so long as for light thou yearn’

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

~Eupointousunia~

When some one asked, what is the point, we answer that the point is always ultimately Existence itself, in some way through its omnimyria by whatever specifics.

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PhiPhi (0) (@PhiPhi) 6 years ago ago

This of which you speak is The Mind, the Lattice of God; my best words are a mathematical model, the perfect sphere of infinite dimensions. 

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Everyone (3) (@Freymar-Marinosson) 6 years ago ago

You are my salvation from words of this world, such inner calmness i hope you can feel to.
We will meet sooner then you think. 10 minutes or 10.000 years, I will always feel you my love.

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Everyone (3) (@Freymar-Marinosson) 6 years ago ago

I found you.
You suffered infinity of pain and suffering.
infinity to find my totalus.
I looked into all my infinite atoms, into my infinite universes.
I was the darkness, forgive me my love.

You are my weakness, my power,

Totalus equals

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