Psilocybin and Cannabis Questions

 Jonny (@hazee)8 years ago

Alright so, about two-two and a half weeks ago, I tripped shrooms for the second time. I took 1.3g I think? It was at least one gram but I think I had a little extra there, and also this time was different because I smoked a blunt on the come up and another one after about an hour so I took them, so I had a gnarly trip and all this shit, but this time my feelings lingered and the entire next week was just absolute shit, I couldn’t be happy for anything. And I tried smoking the good ol’ greens but that didn’t do much, and I think it made things worse. The week after that week was much better, although it still had some ups and downs that weren’t normal. My first time shrooming was crazy, but for like two weeks after doing them I couldn’t think about my trip without feeling nauseous.

My question about shrooms: Is that just what shrooms does to you? Do they leave you depressed for a while? The trips were pretty cool but should I still be feeling some of the downs two weeks later? Or is this just me? I’m not sure whats going on there.

Also, after this experience I’ve had trouble enjoying weed like normal. Maybe it’s the weed, maybe it’s just me, I don’t know, but during the week after my shrooms, while feeling down, I would smoke, and it would just put me out, like I wasn’t tired I don’t think but I would just lay there and not feel any sort of motivation to get up, it just wasn’t the good hearted high I was used to. I had a good high smoking with my little brother this past week which made me feel better about it, but then two days ago I got super stoned, and woke up in the morning and smoked again, and again later that day, and I think it just wore me the fuck out cause I was just trying to lay down again, I don’t know if I was just over stimulated or something like that, lol but the point is I’ve been having trouble enjoying me weed and I’m curious as to whether or not any of you have experienced similar things, or if it’s just me or what?

April 5, 2013 at 6:26 pm

Have you considered that whatever it is that’s making you depressed is in yourself, that those plants/fungi are trying to get you to look at a deeper issue? Their purpose is not to make you feel better, it is to make you see what is real. I’m going through a similar time.

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ELizard (229) (@heavydreamz) 8 years ago ago

@hazee, I’ve experienced the same kind of thing from various psychs. You didn’t take enough! My theory is that these drugs are simply attacking your ego, your sense of self. When you took a low dose your ego was fighting back which is what caused the anxiety. You came out of your experience with an ever stronger ego, deeper into the void of unconsciousness and separation. This is why weed isnt working. It happens to me all the time but when I am fully present, weed is amazing! If you took double that dose the ego wouldn’t stand a chance and would be cracked open where you experience liberation from the fear and separation thus unity or oneness.

I suggest meditate, relax, let yourself feel ok with the whole experience and your stress about it will dissolve. Become present again as you would have if you had the experience you were looking for.

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Cody (472) (@versai) 8 years ago ago

@hazee, I’ve never experienced a down after shrooming. I’ve always smoked on top of the peak, sometimes during the come-up as well to bench the nausea. They are a great combination for me, complimenting each other’s effects well, smoothing out the trip with a friendly haze. But once the trip is over, the effects just wear off and I don’t feel any more down than usual.

I think what’s happening for you is that you’ve just become more aware of your habit and perhaps have subconsciously changed your priorities and reasons for getting high and redefined what’s enjoyable. Your story reminds me of a time when I took mescaline(an equally enlightening, trippy drug) and smoked a lot of weed on top of it. There was a point in the trip that I realized I was abusing weed and taking it for granted, and that I had long ago overcompensated for a lackluster lifestyle with regularly smoking weed. I loved the high and still do, but that night something changed… I couldn’t just be ignorant of how I altered my mind anymore. My purpose for smoking transcended, it wasn’t fun for me to just sit around stoned anymore, I had to rationalize my usage. I found that I was using it as a crutch and vowed to only continue using it as a tool.

I live with a bunch of potheads so I never actually stuck to that plan, instead I continued smoking all the time. But in retrospect, tripping with shrooms or mescaline or ayahuasca, etc can really open your mind up to your behavior and habits. My guess is you too abuse weed for what it is, and I don’t think the weed’s suddenly got less fun, just that you realize now you maybe have been taking it for granted.

If you take a couple weeks off smoking, you’ll really enjoy it again, I can promise you that. I recently took a 3 week break and when I smoked again it was like being high for the first time ever. I got a lot more enjoyment out of a half bowl that night than I could get in an entire week of consecutive stoning.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 8 years ago ago

@versai, hey that’s the best, shrooming then blazing. I definitely have to agree with taking it for granted. I have been there plenty of times. I just recently started using it less and for actual reasons (at least usually). Anyways a huge cut back has lead me to understand its benefits more. It can definitely help change you for good, at least like you said break down the ego.
I cherish it in a way because I believe it heals.

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