Psuedo- Intellectualism

Yael Alonso (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 12 months ago

There seems to be a lot of mystics and psuedo- intellectuals that regularly post on these forums. Normally, this of no problem, there will always be those willing to believe anything, but here it seems to be acceptable to be ignorant of the science you are twisting to fit your perspective. People on here use Quantum Mechanics to provide evidence for their idea of a one world consciousness, energy fields, blah, blah, blah, without having any real knowledge of the Quantum world and its processes. There are constant streams of the Spiritual attempting to co-opt new scientific revelations to provide proof of their beliefs. Enlightenment is a cute term that is constantly thrown around here, as if a constant barrage of ‘we are one’ rhetoric makes you of ‘higher’ conscious than someone else. So can we please place ourselves in perspective and be conscious of the information we are consuming and creating?

December 7, 2013 at 12:40 pm
Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

nope, i am pointing out something i can prove with logic, you are blanketing an entire type of person, there is a difference

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

o and, i offer my opinion, i am likely wrong, take what you like or not, makes really no difference

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

and you are the one to hold them accountable right? this is what i mean, bc you are not holding them accountable with this post, bc you cannot hold them accountable, you are just announcing that you think you are smarter then these ppl

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Yael Alonso (59) (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@tine, No you are not. Lets be honest here. You do not like what I am saying, something hurt your ego so you feel the need to berate me with pointless little accusations. I am not demanding anything, I am asking for people to read it and that is all. I hope people will investigate the claims they themselves assert and gain further understanding of themselves and their perspective. However, if they choose to live in ignorant mysticism, that is their choice. Also, stop transferring your fear of inadequacy onto me. I never mentioned intelligence in any of my post. Intelligence is varying in spectrum and in importance. I don’t really care whether or not others are ‘smart’ or ‘dumb’, just take some initiative in understanding your perspective instead of blind faith in it.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

nope, see it for what you want bro, i can see the defense mechanism is aroused

look at how you are describing ppl, ignorant… who has an ego problem? when have i downed you personally? not once, though this whole post is about downing these fools who believe differently from you, or are not as aware as you

arguing with ego is pointless though,

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Yael Alonso (59) (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@tine, You see, right there, there’s you feeling of inadequacy. I never referred to you as ignorant. You are taking words that are general, that also apply to me, and applying them only to yourself and I never asked or insinuated you should do that. And ignorance is not used out of harshness, we are all ignorant of an immense of of experience and knowledge, but what I see suggest some on this forum choose to stay ignorant of these even as they are being presented to them. Stop taking everything to heart, there is no need for that.

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JonH (1,139)C (@IJesusChrist) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso, “Yet scientific inquiry has taught us more about consciousness than any other field of study. ”

Science has done nothing about consciousness except how to shut it off and on. It says nothing of what it actually is.

And there is no other “field of study” other than scientific ones. That’s a redundant statement.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

o, nothing you say i take personally, i take everything with a grain of salt, so this line of inquiry about me being insulted by you is not how it is, maybe that wil help clarify my responses to you, there is no emotion here at all, just bemusement at the irony of being arrogant

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Yael Alonso (59) (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@tine, Cute, are you done? Do you feel superior yet? Of course you do, because a good HEthen enjoys a good Enlightenment high from pointing out the ego in others, which I don’t deny, while allowing there’s to manipulate them into believing they are higher than the rest.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

| Cute, are you done? Do you feel superior yet? Of course you do, because a good HEthen enjoys a good Enlightenment high from pointing out the ego in others, which I don’t deny, while allowing there’s to manipulate them into believing they are higher than the rest. |

whhhoooaaa… what was that about you saying i was mad?

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

point out where i am arrogant, point to anything that says i think i am superior to you, me pointing something out, DIFFERENT, from how you think,

is not arrogance, and i already told you to take or leave what i say,

sooo what are you referring to?

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Yael Alonso (59) (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@tine,
| just bemusement at the irony of being arrogant|

Of course you weren’t mad, you’re to awakened to be mad, right?

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Dominika (55) (@dominika) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

Intellectualism can be a form of over-compensation, or an “ego” defense mechanism. For instance, im not as fit as all my guy friends are, and as a female, I would have to work out a WHOLE lot to get to that level. So instead, i intellectualize. If you cant be strong, at least be smart. Its like choosing a superpower.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

perhaps bemusement is the wrong word then if you are taking it in a bad way, im sitting back watching you do the exact same thing that you are accusing these others of doing, not fully understanding what you are talking about,

you did not approach this post trying to understand these people, you approached it to condemn.

and this, when you consider what your complaint is and where it comes from inside your consciousness, promotes a surprised guffaw, not amusement, bc i was not amused, but like, damn…

and notice, even though i recognize you are not seeing it clearly in regards to this subject, i did not insult you, instead i approached you with my opinion and offered a counter view,

one you didnt like,

so, other than how you decided to define what i said, do you have any applicable examples, like my point of view, that suggests arrogance?

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

|| you’re to awakened to be mad, right? ||

bro… this is a label you gave me based on your preconceived notion of how ppl are on this site, i have never claimed to be awakened, i guess, know that when i write i am not right, the moment i think i am right i am wrong, because nothing is static, i only offer my current opinion

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Yael Alonso (59) (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@tine, Baseless assumptions. At no point in this thread do I state or infer any of those things. You are once again choosing what to believe instead of what is being said. And again, I never insulted you, read what I said. And that whole post was arrogant because you suppose to know what I am thinking, exactly the same thing I did to you previously, which you got defensive about. Stop being condescending and be honest. What, pertaining the purpose of this thread, do you have to say?

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

you are just defending yourself, you are not using the information i gave you at all, so basically, you are not really chatting with anyone other than yourself

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Yael Alonso (59) (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@tine, HAHAHA! We are both saying the exact same thing to each other and we are both so self obsessed with our own ego’s that we continue to redirect our sense of worth onto each other.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

Any new ‘radical’ theory is now called pseudo-intellectual. Face it. Everyone here is pretty much pseudo-intellectual to be posting on this site anyway.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

i’m responding to what you say, this requires a lack of ego to empathize, you are responding to what you already know to be true, this is seen in your lack of responding to any real context i present, but instead defend yourself and attack me,

there is a very large difference in our how we are approaching this, and it all has to do with the consideration of the other’s opinion.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

the problem, you dont believe i know where you are coming from, and, you think i am defending myself, both of these perspective reality points can be tied to approaching with defenseivness to mask arrogance

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

and please dont forgot, you posted this here, not i, so that means you desired for ppl to comment on your opinion, if you are going to post on a public forum, at least let the defenses down enough to humor us

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Yael Alonso (59) (@YaelAlonso) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@tine, lol, ok

Also, you have yet to say anything directly relating the original post, fyi, you just reworded what I said incorrectly and then judged based on your own misconceptions.

And again, you missed the point of the original post, which most seemed to have understood without the need for defensiveness, it was not to scorn those that went about it was to implore them to look at what they are actually doing when they are misusing or staying ignorant of concepts that they themselves speak of. Was a little harsh? Yes. But no disrespect or malice was meant.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso, This site would be nothing without pseudo-intellectualism. It is its main focus.

Let them have their fun, it won’t hurt you. If anything, it’ll give you an advantage in life.
Spiritualism exists to make people stupid, so that corrupt people can stand on top of them. Just like religion and political ideologies.

People WANT to be stupid.
People WANT to hold their precious beliefs as truth, no matter how much the truth is proven.
People WANT to keep building their mental turd forts, while calling themselves the most open-minded people who ever existed.

And there’s nothing you or I can do about it.
Deal with it.jpg

There will always be petty people. Don’t let that cloud your bright skies, life is a wonderful thing no matter what.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

@yaelalonso,

bro.. i have, but bc you think i am attacking you are not reading, give it night, re-read what i wrote, (know its probably wrong anyway), and lets chat some more

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