Pushing you Art

David (@zeitro) 8 years, 10 months ago

Sometimes feel like you “push your art” on people?
like hey check out this thing i made! hey check out this other thing i made!! like it! and in this digital age, “liking” has become a stronger.. thing, it can be viewed as a drug to some people, i love art and i love making it, but either i feel like people just simply stopped caring for some reason or i just want people to like it more than they actually do
anyone else feel this way? artists?

February 4, 2013 at 1:18 am
Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Yeah, sort of. I just started up a Facebook Page for my photography and I am incredibly new at it so it felt sort of weird starting it up and asking people to “like” it.

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David (325) (@zeitro) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@blankey, Haha me too, would it be too much to push it here too? lol
http://www.facebook.com/PluralSingularity

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Hell, why not. Just if it becomes something where it fuels your ego and takes over you, then maybe we should stop there. And at that point, the art would probably be worse.

I’ll push my too. I need at least 30 likes, I mean come on! :P

http://www.facebook.com/LouthainPhotography

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Kforkonner (59) (@kwelch5528) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@zeitro, @blankey, It sure seems like art is being pushed much harder, I think everything is being pushed harder and its not the fact that we have changed to wanting to get our idea out. It’s just become a much easier way to get it out! We are so televised and interconnected that it’s sometimes hard not to push things.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@zeitro, Sure feedback is good for improvement. But who cares about “likes”. Personally I wouldn’t like to call myself an “artist” either. I draw, paint and play music but i don’t go as far as making pages for it and making people like it. That’s just me… I like doing more and less on the “image” part.

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David (325) (@zeitro) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@blankey, yeah as long as it’s not an ego thing, it’s cool, art should be made to inspire others and to be shared

@kwelch5528, but maybe all those other things being pushed make people less sensible or “desensitized” and can’t take a minute to appreciate a work of art because they’re so busy watching the super bowl half time (sorry, it’s just current events) what does it take to make people appreciate considerably good art,

brings me back to the main topic, is pushing art an annoying thing people do? and if it becomes annoying, is it because we’re so smug and we think we’re so good that people should see it or hear it, or maybe it’s to get out there and be known and at least if one intends to make a living out of aart, it’s much better to be known in what you do and not just work for the money, but simply be able to sustain oneself, pay your bills and such

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David (325) (@zeitro) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@motorik, it’s just that “likes” are a relatively big show of appreciation of something, most people spend their whole day on facebook, if they like your art, couldn’t they just click on it real quick? but i see what you mean, it’s a stupid thing, the important thing is just to inspire those who see or hear what you do, get “the word” out, they’ll all hear it, but not all of them will listen to it :)

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David (325) (@zeitro) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

maybe there’s just a need to feel like there’s support by those who surround us, do we really need it? can we deal on our own?

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@zeitro, Ohhh.. that it’s just become like an automatic reflex thing? I think that’s why this site is so great, most people actually step back, give thought on something and express accordingly (more so than most social sites). Not the usual: LAUGH AT THAT-LIKE-NEXT-LAUGH AT THAT-NEXT-SAY SOMETHING STUPID-NEXT-LIKE-TALK SHIT-LIKE. Do that enough and that’s how you will think, they forget to slow down and actually absorb what’s in front of them.
No idea, you can’t change that, do your best and the right people will appreciate it.

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Ellie (1,363)M (@tangledupinplaid21) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I post stuff on my facebook and other places and recently made a page. This is one of the many things I want to do with my life so I figure people being able to see the sort of stuff I can do will only help that. I don’t “invite people to like” my art page, because I want the “likes” to be genuine.
Shameless self promotion:
https://www.facebook.com/artbychelsearae

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karkis (29) (@karkis) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

As long as you don’t ‘shove’ it on people and force them to appreciate your work, I think you are only trying to utilize the resources you have. And I think sharing art and ideas is a WONDERFUL thing! Helps everyone grow and explore. So, I might as well get on the train here :)

http://www.facebook.com/rollitright

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E.C.F. Doyle (346) (@chekovchameleon) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@zeitro, The thing that bugs me is you can’t show somebody your stuff because they will say they like it. When ever anyone says they like my writing I ask them why. People think they are doing you a favour and giving you support. Someone saying they like something is of no use to any artist. I don’t want my work slated, but “that’s good but you need to work on….” is what you want to hear. I recently joined the site writerscafe.org because I figured other writers would give me valuable critiques of my work, but everybody there just seems to say “i like it” or “I love it” just so you will say the same about their work. If people constantly tell you your stuff is good then you will start to believe it is the best it can be, when you know yourself that is not true. I personally believe 100% positive feed back about anything, not just your work, is a bad thing. It lulls you into a false sense of security. I have never posted anything on Facebook for this very reason.

http://www.writerscafe.org/chekovchameleon

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@tangledupinplaid21, Indeed. :) Genuine likes are most rewarding. Nothing else to add.

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@zeitro, yup.

im kind of weirded out by art. I don’t know. I have an etsy page with around 100 people favoriting my stuff, which usually means they really enjoy it.

my prints are 15$ including shipping, and no one cares to pay that much to support me + keep the art.

it boggles my mind. If I see something on etsy I enjoy and I can afford it, I buy it immediately. I love supporting artists, and so do other people, but often times they only think they do. They are the “nice guys” of art. They think they support it, but when it comes down to it, 15 dollars is better spent on a case of beer or a 10 minute meal somewhere… but to each his own I guess.

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Nick (195) (@nickc2007) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

The harsh truth: Not everyone is interested in what you’re doing.

The good news: Plenty of people are.

Figure out what circles the people that are making money out of what you want to do work and reside in. There is always a ‘scene’ of people further ahead than you, and it’s well worth getting to know them. I’m in a similar boat, I don’t want to ram what I’m doing down everybody I knows throats, but there are plenty of people I don’t know who will be interested. Finding them, that’s the trick.

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Kazi (140) (@kazi) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

hey guys! check out my artwork! like/follow me!
http://myheartisyoung.tumblr.com/tagged/creations

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temillr (120) (@temillr) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@kazi, Just followed you! You have some fantastic work, love it! :)

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David (325) (@zeitro) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

i am loving all the responses
thanks everyone!
i’ve given this some more thought, i put myself on the other side, or rather, paid attention to myself while on the other side, since a like is such an automatic thing, that audience demands some sort of “perfection” and also the word “like” in that sense, has taken a turn that is different from a “follow” which is at least less.. “ego-feeding”
i think a solution i’m starting to consider is to create an actual website, not a facebook page, or an account on any other kind of social media, a website/webpage (i need help with this) that is like a blank slate you design anyway you want, and it’s not to “get people to like it” but to put your piece of “stuff you do” on the collective digital consciousness that is the internet, for it to be available to anyone, again, not for ego feeding, but for inspiring others, through art.

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David (325) (@zeitro) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

the “problem” would be, out of the vast sea that is the internet, how would it (your art) reach the people? that’s what the digital social networks are for

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ostriches (5) (@ostriches) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I think it’s good to show off something you are proud of or that you like. It can bring you good attention and boost your ego as well as inspire others. But I’d post it sparingly. If you’re going to post like, an individual picture to your facebook every few days that’s good and doesn’t seem like you’re forcing people to see it. It’s more like an update. But if you are basically spamming people telling them to “like” your page over and over, on each site you go to, then that gets annoying really quickly and can be a turn off towards your art.

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David (325) (@zeitro) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

so, reviving this old discussion, i finally uploaded my short animated film on vimeo, i just posted it on the HE videos, but here’s the link again :)

i made this during the past 2 years of my life, hope you guys enjoy it as much as i enjoyed making it :)

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@zeitro, damn dude,
.. that was nuts.

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Anonymous (134) (@) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@zeitro, dude that was maaaaaaaaad. I love the concepts!

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Thus Spoke Haze (102) (@ehsan) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@zeitro, I feel the same way.

Although it should be seen as someone sharing their personal expression with you. Most people don’t care though haha

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David (325) (@zeitro) 8 years, 7 months ago ago
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