Question I thought of while in my psychology class.

MarkII (@mwinship13) 8 years, 10 months ago

When you close your eyes can you visualize things? When you meditate do you focus on an object? I can’t. I can’t create visualize objects or pictures. When I close my eyes and try to see an object my eyes move rapidly and I see colors or light flashing. Is it odd that I can’t visualize an object? Why can’t I? Any neuroscience majors able to help me out here?

February 4, 2013 at 2:07 pm
lkywho (8) (@lkywho) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I think it just takes practice. I’m definitely not an expert but I’ve been dealing with the same problem and people tell me to just stick with it and once I gain full control over my mind, I’ll be able to visualize more.

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Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I remember the first time I was finally able to get visuals. It was dream-like. It was the first time I felt I had true control over a dream, because I was aware that I was in this dream-like state. I was literally visually viewing my thoughts. My mind was gathering and sorting the events and things that had transpired throughout the day, sorting through memories, etc. And I was visually viewing these thoughts with awareness for the first time.

I know exactly what you’re talking about though when you describe what you’re seeing. That’s how it starts off. But just keep doing it. Don’t give up. Because the longer you stay with it, the more your mind starts to ignore the visual senses (aka your physical eyes). Pretty soon the view of the back of your eyelids becomes non-existent, and your mind replaces it with visuals. At least, this is how it is for me.

I find it helps to try to view your thoughts as something separate from you. Try to observe every thought that comes in and out of your mind. View it as a constant stream of something separate from you. That’s when you start to go deeper. Just keep practicing and you will get there.

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Jamin Slack (6) (@jaminslack) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mwinship13, I have the same problem. Just as described, all I see are lights and the backs of my eyelids.

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WarAgainstReality (4) (@clockworkz21) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mwinship13, I’ve always had dream like lucid visuals when I close my eyes, at first theres a black and white undertone, then I create different colors to fill in the black and white within my mind which helps me develop an image until i can mentally walk through it with the ability to recall the smallest detail.. its almost spiritual and is one of the reason why I meditate so much. I’ve always had control over my mind in an unexplainable way.. and always question’d my consciousness in negative ways to find the truth. I think the same form of visualizing can be linked to memory – do you pay attention to details? – even if you’re trying to get something done, do you notice the smallest things that shape your reality?

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E.C.F. Doyle (346) (@chekovchameleon) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mwinship13, Maybe it depends on your brain. Don’t they say that some peoples brains reason in images, some with words and so on. I’m not an expert at all but it’s just a thought. May be you should ask some of your psychology lectures, if you haven’t already. I’d say you could train your brain to do it like others have suggested.

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DaJetPlane (994)M (@lytning91) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I wish my hands could translate some of the images and concepts my mind has thought of when I closed my eyes. Sometimes I imagine these vivid scenes in great detail but I can’t even begin to recreate them on paper.

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Anonymous (0) (@crateone) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mwinship13, let’s say you want to vizualize a pyramid. That pyramid won’t pop out in front of your eyes projected on the inside of the eye lid. You have to project it in your mind..using imagination. Focus on it , try to see it in 2d..then in 3d…. Think of how would that pyramid look life if it would spin..turn it around..upside-down and right and left with the help of imagination. Do not focus on the vizualizing part, just let it flow along the process of your imagination.

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mwinship13, What the hell are you talking about?

IF someone asked you to draw a cow you couldn’t draw a cow?

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Stoney Baloney (614) (@adamm0ss) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, Im sure it wouldn’t be a photo quality.. Maybe a four legged animal with spots, but that would be drawn from just what he thinks a cow looks like, not him actually seeing a cow when he closes his eyes.

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trippyrizzle (10) (@rizzle) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mwinship13, in my experience you just have to let go of wanting to “see”, thinking about sleeping doesn’t make you dream

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Alex (27) (@brainnectar) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mwinship13, It is hard to do went your thinking about trying to visualize or picture something on command, it’s like a blank canvas inside your head. But I guarantee you can, ever daydream, wander off in while you read something, thinking about a past memory. You can, it’s just when you try to do it on command, it is a bit more difficult then simply painting that picture in your head.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mwinship13, Stop looking with your eyes, look instead with your mind. Your eyes just absorb stimuli and transfer it to your brain. When I meditate I cease to be my eyes or my brain and I project my consciousness from the center of my being.

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Searcher (1) (@anattempt) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

When I meditate I don’t see objects or intense visuals. I can sense a flow of energy sometimes I am able to see it. But as someone else mentioned, you have to look with your mind, not your eyes.

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MarkII (71) (@mwinship13) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, No I wouldn’t be able to draw a cow. I know what a cow looks like, but I can’t see it. Even if I could see it I couldn’t translate it with my hand to put it onto paper. But that’s a different matter,that’s artistic ability.
@brainnectar, That makes sense too me.
@clockworkz21, I do pay attention to details. I try to be mindful in everyday life; all the time.

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mwinship13, I’m calling bullshit. You couldn’t draw an outline of a cow without seeing one in front of you?

A white horse-like thing with black spots and an utter? You can’t imagine what that looks like?

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MarkII (71) (@mwinship13) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, Not a good one lol. I can imagine it, yes. But I can’t see it.

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Sara111 (49) (@sarad) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

I would say visualizing and imagining are the same thing?

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@mwinship13, Well I don’t get it. I don’t “SEE” a cow when I think about it – it is abstract thought then gets translated to paper. Its not like I imagine a cow and then all of a sudden I can’t see the TV. Or if I close my eyes – its still all black, no cow.

Only sleep deprivation, intense meditation, and psychedelics can do that.

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