Raw Paleo Resources, Anyone?

Vasco (@vasco) 8 years, 10 months ago

*Disclaimer: Please keep negative opinions on the subject that don’t come from personal experience and/or books to yourselves. I don’t care if you disagree unless you have a REAL reason to do so. That being said, if you do have a reason to believe that I shouldn’t do this experiment, please share it, I’m not afraid of being proven wrong.*

Hey, in a few months (when I’m in college and finally living by myself :b) I will do an ‘experiment’ and go almost 100% raw paleo.

I have read a lot of books on the raw and raw vegan diet, The Primal Blueprint, which is about a (cooked) paleo diet and am currently reading ‘Beyond Broccoli’, in which the author advocates a raw paleo diet.
I have also found many studies (mainly from pubmed.com) indicating that the paleo diet is the way to go, but none on the benefits of eating raw.

Right now, here’s what I think my diet will consist of:
Raw: vegetables, fruit, nuts, seeds, milk (if I can find a good supplier nearby), fish?, meat?, organ meat?
Not-quite-raw: eggs (I don’t like the taste of raw eggs, so I think I’ll just soft-boil them for 5-6 minutes, so that they’re warm on the inside but the yolk is almost raw), meat/organs (unless I find a viable way to eat raw meat, I will probably cook it a bit on the outside to kill any parasites;), fish (again I’ll just cook the outside).
^ Did I forget any important food group? Could you share with me ways to eat raw meat without the danger of parasites/bacteria?

I’m 17 by the way, if that matters.

Does any of you guys have specific Raw Paleo resources? I want to be as prepared as possible when the time comes, so I don’t make as many ‘beginner mistakes’. If your information comes mainly from personal experience and not from studies/books, that’s highly appreciated as well.

January 23, 2013 at 4:07 am
Vasco (224)C (@vasco) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Also reply if you’d be willing to do this experiment with me, it’d be awesome to have someone do it at the same time!

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Edward Bernays (131) (@edwardbernays) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Talk to @feren6

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Vasco (224)C (@vasco) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@feren6 Max, you eat raw, too?

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Edward Bernays (131) (@edwardbernays) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@vasco, sorry man,only saw paleo, didn’t see the raw part. he might still have some good books/resources for you to check out.

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Max Nachamkin (170)C (@feren6) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@vasco, I don’t know about any raw diets, but I eat Paleo 90% of the time. And when I say Paleo, I mean my own version of Paleo — I only use it as a model for my ‘base’ diet.

Lot of meats, eggs, veggies, leafy greens, and safe starches (white rice & potatoes). i try to consume a little bit of dairy, in the raw form if possible (raw cheese is easier to find than raw milk).

As far as eating raw eggs — let me give you a backstory:

My dad is a microbiologist. I grew up consistently hearing about infectious diseases, and he always told me to cook my eggs or I’d get salmonella.

As a young kid, I, like most other kids, wanted to prove his bullshit. So I drank a fuck ton of raw eggs.

And guess what happened?

NOTHING.

My stomach hurt a lot, but I didn’t die. Salmonella my ass.

Regardless, it’s still a risk. A small one, but if I suggest two things:

1) Don’t eat uncooked egg whites. They disturb digestion and all of the nutrition is in the yolks anyways. An easy way to do this is to crack the shell in half, and keep pouring the yolk into the other half while letting the white stuff come out (lol).

2) Get your eggs from a pastured farm source. Local eggs are great, but don’t eat raw grocery-store 99cent dozen eggs. They are much more likely to have diseases.

As far as meat goes, I’d just cook it completely, unless you have a good source. i recently got 1/16th of a cow from a local grass-fed cow share and because the risk is low, I didn’t mind cooking everything medium-raw, even the ground beef. But again, if you’re getting supermarket 80/20 fat shit, you better cook that in its entirety.

Seeds and nuts, keep to a minimum. It’s undisputed among nutrition experts that the omega-3:omega-6 ratio is important in maintaining a healthy immune system.

To put this in perspective..
Average Joe’s ratio: 20:1
My ratio: 3:1 on a bad day

Do I get sick? Yes, but only if I drink a gallon of liquor over a weekend or eat a shit ton of bad food.

What are the benefits of eating completely raw?

Personally, I wouldn’t fuck around with meats — that’s a risky game to play. But if you have a good source, then cook it medium-rare and don’t worry about it.

I’m sure some vegetables have a benefit to not-cooking vs not cooking, but that’s just micromanaging and who cares. If you like eating raw broccoli, then just eat it. Otherwise, steam them up, add some butter, and enjoy the deliciousness.

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Vasco (224)C (@vasco) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@feren6, Yeah, I agree with all you say, especially on the raw eggs, but I just don’t like the taste. About the meat: I never cook it full, as I like it medium-rare or even rare, but there probably is some benefit to not cooking it because of the vitamins destroyed and the proteins that get jambled together.

The whole point of paleo (for me) is to get the best food possible, so obviously I try to get my meat and eggs from good sources (free-range, not grain-fed, etc) and will probably have found a local farm by the time I do this experiment and am living in Bremen.

I love nuts, but I’ve read all about the o6:o3 ratio and will only eat them as eventual snacks.

If you have time, read up on the benefits of raw food. There’s a ton of books on the subject and most of them you can find online for free. A lot of them advocate a vegan diet, but you can always ignore those parts. For a book on raw paleo, check out Beyond Broccoli. I’ve read about half and it’s great (I’m yet to reach the part where she talks about why it should be raw, though).

anyway, thanks for the response!

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Alex Mayle (78)C (@alexmayle) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Damn, just the though of eating raw chicken makes me want to throw up.

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ELizard (229) (@heavydreamz) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

http://www.earth360.com/diet_paleodiet_balzer.html bookmarked this a long time ago, gave me all the philosophy to figure out exactly what my body has been needing all along

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John (32) (@luzimzo) 8 years, 10 months ago ago
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t-rav (25) (@travis) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Check out this website and their book is really insightful.

The Diet

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t-rav (25) (@travis) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@vasco, And good job on getting on a healthy diet so early, I didn’t start until 21ish.

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Vasco (224)C (@vasco) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

Thanks a lot, I think I’m going to start the trial in a few weeks. Gotta find out where to buy good quality food and a few other things, but I think I’m good to go.

I have one question though, if anyone knows the answer: During the trial, I’ll be doing the second month of Insanity, so I’ll need a lot more carbs than usual. Do you recommend getting them only from fruit or also from sweet potatoes, etc? I’ll try to eat raw, so potatoes and stuff wouldn’t be ideal…

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Teresa (24) (@foxmind) 8 years, 10 months ago ago

@vasco Please be sure of washing your vegetables with some vinegar on the water. Having studied parasitology and parasitic diseases for a long time, there are pretty nasty things you can get. Eating raw meat or fish is a risk, doesn’t matter if you cook only the outside, possible parasites live within the muscle fibres and will use your organism as an intermediary host.

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