Russell Brand Calls for a Revolution on BBC

Eric (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago

**Edit: Just added this to my blog here.

If you haven’t seen the video, check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YR4CseY9pk

In the video we see Russel getting incredible fired up about the problems that we face today. He points out how the current paradigms that we collectively live within (a hierarchical government, corporations, banks, monetary system etc) are not working. He calls for a revolution. He does not say how it will happen, but he knows it will. I think this is huge. When I first heard of Brand getting into this sort of thing, I thought that he, along with many other socially aware “famous” people, could potentially help spark a deep internal and thus external (r)evolution much needed.

We need to take the power of our lives back. First, we need to recognize that we ARE being controlled.. conditioned. We need to take a deep LOOK at ourselves and watch what we do, how we act, and how we think. We all know the grind of the work week and the weekends. Is there more to life than this? Notice how we all go to our ‘jobs’ where we work for a thing called a ‘corporation’ to receive another thing called ‘money’, that apparently has some value. You then exchange this ‘money’, or more simply put, paper, for food, shelter, and material wants/needs from more ‘corporations’. We participate in this delusion. You participate in this delusion. I participate in this delusion (but not for long). If you aren’t doing anything and are simply watching it all go by while you sit and stare and think, damn, how can I do something to help this world? And then tell yourself no, no, I can’t, not me, I can’t change the world. Then you are contributing to the problem. Don’t change the world, change yourself. EVERYONE has to act. YOU have to act. There is no one-thing in and of itself. It is all one. If YOU act we ALL act. So.. act!

And how do you act? Take back your power. You are being controlled by money, your job, etc. Provide your own energy, grow your own food, build your own shelter… with friends of course! Live 100% off the grid. If we collectively did this, the economy could collapse and instead of everyone entering something 100x worse than the depression, we would be safe in our sustainable homes, living off the land. We can leave “the economy” and all of the other bullshit in the dust and never look back. Oh… and the economy will collapse. Let it. MIT predicts by 2030 it will. I think sooner. But don’t wait… act now or it will be too late.

Meow :)

October 24, 2013 at 1:44 am
ZenCowboy (179) (@zencowboy) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, this is a perfect example of what being a freedom fighter and a leader in this Revolution is all about.
As is your action of sharing this with us. Well done brother!

This is another burst of energy that adds to the momentum of the revolution. Its is energy that can’t be taken back. When enough is behind it, to push it over the current paradigm it will squash and take hold over the system we have now. There is a sense of looming growing and those that fight against the revolution will only continue becoming for frantic and desperate. While the freedom fighters become more self-aware and calm.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@zencowboy, <3


@dafunks
, Awesome. Reading now.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey,

but dont you think you might just be that small part of humanity that is aware, represented by a similar % in all generations, that, because of your awareness can invoke change in the unaware?

awareness for all is ideal, but history shows that most of the population does not wish to become aware, sometimes even violently opposing it, so i don’t think waiting on the ‘awareness for all’ idea to manifest is a safe bet,

i feel the question should be, how do you invoke change in the mind of those that impact the decision making of large masses of people,

^what do you think?

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DaFunks (366)M (@Dafunks) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, unless you’re English you may miss many of the references in the article. I can see much of it being a bit confusing for none Brit’s.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@dafunks, Yeah a few lines I have no idea what he is saying. This is a long fucking article lol

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Ben (62) (@Mallorn) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

bump

sustainable living is not a matter of if but when. good on you for doing it, i’m getting there as well.

tine surely it would be preferable to have everyone be aware of the realities of this world. simply changing the way you instruct and rule them ensures the same problems and inequalities.

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DaFunks (366)M (@Dafunks) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, if you have any questions on them just ask. Or Wikipedia can help.

Much of this originated from the manipulation of the British media a few years ago. Wire taps and hacking. It got people like Brand involved. He also got involved in the drugs debate (watch it on YouTube ) .

He was on Question Time and debated with Boris Johnson who he mentioned in this article and the interview. Boris is a crazy fun political party member of the conservatives and is London Mayor. They are opposites in political views.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@mallorn,

wat is the solution then when you have a huGe part of the population not caring to become aware, who need and will always require the structure that the system they live in gives them, i think it runs down to [general security], i think most ppl are not able to live outside the framework set before them all their lives, <– do you agree or disagree and why?

outside of changing the rulers mindsets, what choice do you have considering the large disparity of unwilling beings?

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Ben (62) (@Mallorn) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

well you said a huge part of the population needs and will always require the structure, and then by trying to explain it said people are not able to live outside this structure. There have always been outliers that caused change in the majority, countless examples from history show this.

your questions are vague, some people adapt and some don’t. The mind is not static; there’s always more thinking to do. Brand talks about it in the article, the individual has to reject the current paradigm.

see https://www.highexistence.com/topic/logical-fallacies-of-debate-everyone-should-read-before-debate/

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@mallorn,

i guess, do you agree or disagree with the idea that there will likely never be a full resurgence of awareness in most of the population?

i agree that the percentages of the educated in the world has risen through the centuries, especially now with the internet, but i think the % represents a general personality type found in all sectors of society, its just now even those raised with the lowliest means can access something beyond the world they grew up in, this personality type i would call ‘driven’ and the means by which this state came to be about are unique to that person,

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@mallorn,

by saying this,

|| There have always been outliers that caused change in the majority, countless examples from history show this. ||

are you agreeing with what i observed? bc this is said differently, but is what i was explaining.

|| your questions are vague ||

how so? i feel i get very specific when setting the context for my questions. if this is not so please let me know which questions and i will provide more detail.

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Ben (62) (@Mallorn) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

the problem is in the question, no one knows how the future is going to turn out.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@dafunks, Awesome thanks for the info. It’s pretty incredible how someone across the globe, who grew up and was shaped by an entirely different region, can now communicate with me instantaneously (or nearly). Thank you the internet :)

The internet is seriously going to be HUGE in this revolutionary process that is currently underway. Of course, it will need to extend into the outside physical world, but this device is allowing individuals, for the first time ever, have instant access to knowledge and communication from other regions. We are in constant global contact. If only we would notice that this is true even without the internet. We are fundamentally connected we each other. Biologically, atomically, spiritually. We are all connected.


@tine
, So you’re asking how we can invoke individual awareness by the masses? Psychedelics for one. Psychedelics break down barriers and allow for new ideas to come in. Another is the internet. The internet can show people new ideas if they are open to it and at this point, of course some are not, but a large portion of people are willing to listen because of the unsatisfactory with the current situation. I even got my dad, the most stubborn, capitalistic man ever, to agree with me on some of this stuff. But of course he went back but still! The truth will set us free. Spread it.

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey,

i’m just being the devils advocate, but i think there is a general fear therefore anger towards psychedelics amongst the large part of society i am generalizing here, the part of society that will not change. i feel that trying to raise awareness, to get people to think who will not for themselves, is a futile attempt. even if society collapsed there would still be a large part of the population seeking structure from anyone providing it

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@tine, For sure there is that fear there that it won’t turn out how we want it to. And chances are it won’t. But I see hope when I see this article, when I see this interview with Russell Brand, movements like Valhalla, documentaries by some of the most brilliant minds of century on psychedelics and how beneficial they are (check out Neurons to Nirvana if you haven’t yet). There is a movement coming. The revolution is underway.

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DaFunks (366)M (@Dafunks) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, I think our political situations are a bit similar. I don’t think we are as manipulated by the media though. He lives in America, was married to Katie Perry.

You should see how much he has changed. He was crazy back in his MTV days and the Big Mouth show he got famous from. He is a very different man now. I think he is one of the most influential left wing people of today.

Have you seen his msnbc interview?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADJhErmJuoQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I think the only way to make people aware is to inspire. I don’t take many drugs and have never taken Psychedelics and think it can be found without them. I’m not saying you’re wrong though.

People need to be inspired and not forced to believe these things.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@dafunks, Yeah I’ve seen quite a bit of interviews with him. One of which was about psychedelics, sort of.

Anyways, yeah it can indeed be realized without psychedelics but psychedelics are almost a for sure option, especially if done under the right conditions. Set and setting is everything. You should watch Neurons to Nirvana. I highly recommend it.

Here’s a trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7BIFlvFZeU

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Tine (366) (@tine) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@mallorn,

is it? i fully take into account everything you say is just your opinion based on your perspective,

do you of me? if so, it should be ok to have a conversation about humanity based on our opinions without it being negative or even accepted/agreed upon, i simply wish to be exposed to your viewpoint on this topic, even if you cannot know for certain,

i view all perspectives as an additional knowledge source into the overall tapestry that we are.

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Taras (534) (@painfulfart) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, will do sir :)

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Ben (62) (@Mallorn) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@tine, yes and yes.

if anyone hasn’t watched the msnbc video, you have to. that is comedy. same with the newsnight interview. that is how you reject the paradigm.

the key here is doubting your beliefs. psychedelics can lead you to doubting your beliefs, but they’re not necessary. like doubting that the current paradigm is ok. those msnbc hosts doubting that they aren’t contributing to the problem.

a handful of greedy megalomaniacs and their indoctrinated are still human, and they are not immortal.

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Anonymous (5) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

Russell Brand is an amazing gift to humanity holy shit.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@dafunks, I’m half Brit half Yank, they call me Australian.

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dofalmingoo (4) (@ymafanugal) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

I care about the Planet Earth and everything that is in it, so keep me posted about the revolution and count me in!

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DaFunks (366)M (@Dafunks) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@trek79, they do? Why?

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, Thanks for sharing buddy. I just saw you posted your article on here, sorry for not getting back to you earlier on that. Unfortunately things fall behind sustaining this show with only a handful of people.

On this topic: Be aware of arguments like ‘human beings are like this, period’. No, there is no inherent trait in us that makes us go to war, hate others, need structures, are greedy, always take all the money. There are million counter examples. To do good, as do evil, we need certain ideas and cultures. As such, there is nothing ‘natural’ about what is going on. I would go as far and claim there is no such thing as nature. People use it in the same sense people used the word God, as if everybody knows what it is, or at least knows some people who do. Well, wake up, nobody has any clue what this is all about. We don’t know any natural laws that divide good from evil. Nor any written ones.

Be aware of putting the blame on the ‘Other’. As if there is some tiny fragment of this universe that upsets this holy balance of equality. Something out there, not me, that is wrong, shouldn’t be here. It is not just a very slippery slope from this argument tho the one ‘lets get rid of that tiny fragment, then we are ok!’ It is the birth of fascism. (we need to go back to some ideal place in the past is another variation of this, don’t be stupid, there was and never has been an ideal place, ever. Utopia literally means a place that does not exist).

Be aware of thinking recycling can actually halt this. That a small sustainable community can actually undo all the damage that is done by corporations. That riding a bike will offset all the emissions of a car. You know how these pressure valves function? It is like watching a comedy with a laughing track. You just sit there, looking at the tv, nothing in your life really changes at all, but you still feel relieved. It is the same with recycling. Ah, I’ve done my duty today, now we will stop destroying the very life system we depend on. No! It is a fact that right now, in order to even exist, to order even to be able to talk about this, we need energy, we need waste, we need to go to a job that in some way supports this whole scheme. Yes, we feel relieved, but it still goes on, and on, and on.

Be aware of that thought ‘lets just wait for the next crash, then we will take our chance!’. No! We had our chance with the last crash. Why didn’t we do anything at all? That is the question! Did you know, that Leonardo Da Vinci once remarked, when he was working one of the biggest dreams this genius had, the flying machine, he remarked “Oh, if we could fly! We would be able to get to the snowy tops of the mountains, and go back to the streets and give it to the thirsty!’ You know what we gave to the thirsty of our world once we had flying machines? Bombs. We bombed them. In the same manner, don’t think that something in the future, some technology, some event that will ALWAYS be postponed, will bring salvation. Leonardo thought this. Stalin thought this. Mao ze-dong thought this. We think this. Hitler thought this. Guess what? If you postpone salvation, you will never even see the chance to radically alter the current progress of history.

Be aware that all our dreams of how the future should look like, is tainted by how the past looked. And if we look at the past, we don’t see the oppressed. They have no voice. We can’t remember their dreams, like Leonardo’s, the dreams that are always directed to the future, that in that magical land, something will happen, for them. Something they worked for, and will automatically happen, if we just keep the hope alive. No! Only if we can get this system to halt, only if we listen to the apostles of the global crisis and put a radical end to this, only then something radical new can arise.

Be aware that we need more awareness (ha!), that if only we have some more information, then we would actually see what is happening. Seriously? We all know what is happening, we know about guantanamo bay, about abu ghraib, about snowden, manny, Iraq, etc. We know. Yet, we still don’t do nothing. Knowledge is no guarantee for anything.

So stop pretending we know the answers. We don’t. Stop thinking we are progressing to something great. Because there is no guarantee. None. No natural law that saves us. No idea that will give us the solution. All we know is, that right now, millions of people are being oppressed. Class struggle is very much alive. And we need to stop pretending that everything is ok. That listening to propaganda is a form of entertainment. That politicians are bringing salvation. That it is not a real, immediate problem. It is. And all we have is eachother, and to quote Walter Benjamin, confidence, as courage, as humor, as cunning, as steadfastness in this struggle!

In this sense, I applaud Russel, he is fulfilling his role. He doesn’t conform to power, but instead makes history. Our duty is to be inspired, but not to copy. Don’t put your faith in him. Put your faith in yourself. Speak up when history demands it of you, when you are confronted with a lie or the truth, when someone truly asks your opinion on what is going on, say truly what you think, and not what they want to hear. Mock those who disbelief, because it is a a big make-belief show, with dire consequences.

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