Russell Brand Calls for a Revolution on BBC

Eric (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago

**Edit: Just added this to my blog here.

If you haven’t seen the video, check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YR4CseY9pk

In the video we see Russel getting incredible fired up about the problems that we face today. He points out how the current paradigms that we collectively live within (a hierarchical government, corporations, banks, monetary system etc) are not working. He calls for a revolution. He does not say how it will happen, but he knows it will. I think this is huge. When I first heard of Brand getting into this sort of thing, I thought that he, along with many other socially aware “famous” people, could potentially help spark a deep internal and thus external (r)evolution much needed.

We need to take the power of our lives back. First, we need to recognize that we ARE being controlled.. conditioned. We need to take a deep LOOK at ourselves and watch what we do, how we act, and how we think. We all know the grind of the work week and the weekends. Is there more to life than this? Notice how we all go to our ‘jobs’ where we work for a thing called a ‘corporation’ to receive another thing called ‘money’, that apparently has some value. You then exchange this ‘money’, or more simply put, paper, for food, shelter, and material wants/needs from more ‘corporations’. We participate in this delusion. You participate in this delusion. I participate in this delusion (but not for long). If you aren’t doing anything and are simply watching it all go by while you sit and stare and think, damn, how can I do something to help this world? And then tell yourself no, no, I can’t, not me, I can’t change the world. Then you are contributing to the problem. Don’t change the world, change yourself. EVERYONE has to act. YOU have to act. There is no one-thing in and of itself. It is all one. If YOU act we ALL act. So.. act!

And how do you act? Take back your power. You are being controlled by money, your job, etc. Provide your own energy, grow your own food, build your own shelter… with friends of course! Live 100% off the grid. If we collectively did this, the economy could collapse and instead of everyone entering something 100x worse than the depression, we would be safe in our sustainable homes, living off the land. We can leave “the economy” and all of the other bullshit in the dust and never look back. Oh… and the economy will collapse. Let it. MIT predicts by 2030 it will. I think sooner. But don’t wait… act now or it will be too late.

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October 24, 2013 at 1:44 am
bigmac22 (26) (@bigmac22) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

yes, it is in the US, but its isolated enough that we don’t get bothered by very many things. the government shut down would have gone totally unnoticed without internet XD

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Martijn Schirp (112,780)A (@martijn) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, It might seem that history works that way, but I think it is quite more complicated than that. History is not every link in the big chain of cause and effect, it might seem this way, but actually we pick and choose very specific causes. History is the history of the victors. Those cultures that have been lost, the people that have been oppressed, the alternatives to this current system have no active voice in this world any more. They are our unknown unknowns, the ones who didn’t make history. So not everything makes history, since even in order to survive in a modern totalitarian attention-capitalist system, you need to be a part of this system, therefore you are an expression of this system, no matter what you do.

The implication of this, is that any form of community, completely of the grid or not, must in some way support the whole. It can not be an expression of something else (yet). In other words, it is only allowed to exist as so far it doesn’t opposes the hegemonic position of the state. The state will either force you to conform or try to annihilate you. No cultural form that doesn’t in some way contribute can exist.

But I do think we need to start making communities like this. Because exactly on the moment the state wants you to conform, you can deny that request, at great personal cost of course, personal as in, the old ego structure will have to deal with something it cant, the new. And then you make history. The perfect example her being Brand again, where he could just give the answer any idol would, take his hands of the matter and not taking a side, being complicit in the current oppression of the lower class. But he didn’t. And therefore he did make history.

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Aristarchus (2) (@Aristarchus) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, Hell yea, let’s have a revolution! I don’t think that 100% sustainable off the grid living is the whole solution though. With the world population being what it is, I doubt 100% sustainable off the grid living could support everyone. I think advanced modern industry and some type of organizational structure would still be necessary, and it of course would have to be different than our current mode of industry and organization.

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Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

No one listens until a famous celebrity says it. All of a sudden we are all fired up and doing cartwheels.

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Jason (68) (@jasonmctw) 8 years, 1 month ago ago
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Aristarchus (2) (@Aristarchus) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@jasonmctw, This guy really distorted a lot of things. He also played semantic word games by abstracting and distorting history and politics. Russell Brand was clear, concise, and logical, where as this guys just ultimate said a bunch a words that sound nice. It annoys me that people actually give people like this guy credibility. He agrees with Russell about the problem then he says the solution is protecting peace, and since he stated this system is inherently violent, using his own logic, that means protecting the peace can only be done by creating a new system. I feel like this guy is an example of the current system doing and saying anything to influence people against direct action and instituting social, political, and economic change.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@aristarchus, Yes to everything you said.


@martijn
, Well history is simply time in the past. Me sending you that previous response would technically be considered history but yes you are correct we do pick and choose certain points to bring up, especially when taught in school.


@aristarchus
, It could if enough people did it.

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Aristarchus (2) (@Aristarchus) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, What I mean is this specifically, there are now so many people on the planet that subsistence farming is an anachronism that couldn’t support the needs of the population. I mean it could but it would recquire exacerbating the ecological crisis, because a lot of land, and a lot of resources would get used up rather quickly by people producing directly in an untechnological subsistence type of economy. I think high tech industrial agriculture can provide food for a lot more people and use a lot less land and resources, and be a far less laborious process. Someone mentioned making lye soap in another comment, and I just think if everyone made lye soap themselves it would ultimately be inefficient and wasteful, and if everyone made their products this way it would be very time consuming and laborious. My only thought is that we have to integrate high tech industry and the convenience of our modern technological world with communal sustainable living, in order to actually make it work, and to keep people from wanting to revert to the old system due to its facility. Because I don’t think technology is the reason for our woes, but our economic and political systems and policies. Just a thought, what do you think about this?

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@aristarchus, Oh most definitely. Certainly we would use things like vertical farming and the likes. Technology and cooperation is going to get us out of this mess.

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hector (18) (@hector) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, Why are you so keen on going off the grid man? Personally I don’t think it’s what humans need at all, we currently have a humongous grid, a system comprised of 7 billion people and it is not going anywhere any time soon. Even if say all of America became its own isolated sustainable grid tomorrow, the rest of the grid would still consume the world and drive it into the dirt. The answer is surely to admit that we are all in this together, the rich and the poor, and we all want the same things. We need to rebuild a sense of community, then work together to redesign our grid, making our whole grid sustainable from the bottom up, it is much, much too late to start a new system and hope that it will take over the old.

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Anonymous (18) (@) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

Yeah, Russell Bran really gives a shit about riotousness.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@hector, Okay. How do we start that?

I am not concerned with a system of thought. I am concerned with real, actual, physical change. I haven’t heard anyone offer anything besides other systems that have never worked and will never work. If we make a law of sustainability it will be like a law of murder, people will break it. We make laws and it makes people want to break them. Fuck a system, it will never work. No system of thought that does NOT take place within reality but rather the collective egoic mind will help us. We need direct physical change. We need to start working WITH nature, not against it.

I follow the idea of be the change you wish to see in the world. I wish to see a world where people do not rely on corporations for food, but rather grow it themselves with the help of modern day technology and of course, some friends. I wish to see a world where there is no such thing as “money” and that we all don’t need a job to survive. I wish to see a world of cooperation, a world of reason, a world of direct, physical, sustainable action. There is nothing else to do. Waiting for someone else or everyone to collectively change will do nothing. I used to think we needed a Resource Based Economy, and sure, it sounds nice, but this won’t happen for a couple hundred years or maybe never even will. What we need is people to step out of the thinker and become the one watching the thinker and everything that is. We need individualism. We need to face the facts and stop relying on ‘others’ and blaming ‘others’ when there is no others. It is all one. You change we all change.

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Aristarchus (2) (@Aristarchus) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, Your idea is valid, but I think it’s important to give other systems a chance and not doom them to failure from the onset. Because if there is a revolution there will have to be another system to replace the current system. It really is impossible I think to completely localize all production for all of humanity in a short period of time. It would take a planned consorted effort to integrate the necessary technology into every city, town, and commune. Factories for heavy machinery, tractors, solar panels, water heater, stoves, refrigerators and other necessary technology will have to be produced in the traditional way until an alternative industrial paradigm can be planned and executed. You have to be realistic too, the majority of people don’t have the ability, or resources to fully and truly go off the grid. They will be reliant on the current productive forces after the revolution, so an alternative grid or organizational economic system is imperative. So we really shouldn’t say that something else isn’t possible, because for the revolution it kind of does need to be possible. And no offense but we shouldn’t be encouraging people to do what we think is the solution or what we think is possible, we should encourage them to do everything, get off the grid, organize politically against the current paradigm, create community councils to organize cooperative efforts, everything and anything conceivable to actually make a revolution in context of the reality of the capabilities of mankind. The revolution isn’t even the most important part, the most important part is creating a sustainable world where everyone’s need are met, and everyone has the opportunity to advance spiritually, mentally, physically, and intellectually, and be able to follow their loves and interests.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@aristarchus, Definitely. We don’t have a lot of time so doing anything and everything will help. The Occupy Movement is a good example at how it really didn’t do anything besides slow down the current paradigm, which made people take a look at what is going on: the corruption.

Here’s a great article I recommend reading: http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/10/science-says-revolt

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Aristarchus (2) (@Aristarchus) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@blankey, Damn good article!

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ALEC (25) (@ALEC) 8 years ago ago

@blankey I’m glad that Brand is expressing himself and attempting to discuss important issues, but I don’t think he’s someone I could ever follow as a leader. Aside from this video, he hasn’t done a whole lot to earn my respect. He’s a sex symbol and a celebrity who makes dirty jokes and stars in Hollywood movies for a living. I mean, I hope I’m wrong, and I hope he’s completely changed his ways, but I can’t help but think that all of this has to do more with his own image than him benefiting the world. It seems that he is now living his role in ‘Forgetting Sarah Marshall’ (“we gotta doooo something!”). Maybe if he put less energy into his hair and being looked at as some cool, hip messiah or whatever I would be more convinced.

Please take this lightly, I don’t mean to insult, but rather to give another (perhaps skeptical) perspective on this. Maybe you know a bit about the guy and some things he’s done to put his ideas into action?

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years ago ago

@alec, His motives don’t really concern me at all here. What I am concerned with is the message he just put out there. And that message, the one that everyone knows deep down, just got thrown around the globe. Something that needed to be done.

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ALEC (25) (@ALEC) 8 years ago ago

@blankey I feel you. He seems to be expressing something, a lot of things, that many people think and feel, but don’t exactly know how to say. He doesn’t really explain anything in particular, but kind of brushes on a lot of topics, basically getting the message across that humans need to rethink our way of existence. So I guess I can respect him for trying to make these ideas that we all have a bit more clear, as well as publicly relaying this message. I’m just a little uncomfortable with the idea of a revolution starting because of Russell Brand haha.

But I guess other celebrities have done similar things in the past. People like Bono and Sinead O’Connor have stood for great things, but at the same time they are batshit crazy.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 8 years ago ago

@alec, For sure. It’s not like one man is going to start the revolution either. It needs to be a collective decision on an individual level to live how we really should be living: Working with the earth, not against it.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 7 years, 12 months ago ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYM7SzJMKns

Another fantastic interview with Russell Brand. This time he goes over the cultural narrative of the want to be famous, the looking up to the famous, and the media, etc.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 7 years, 6 months ago ago

bump.

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