Do You Know Any Resrouces on Sacred Geometry?

Anonymous (@) 9 years, 9 months ago

Anyone know of any good resources to learn about Sacred Geometry?

August 23, 2012 at 4:14 pm
Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@egarim, I am not denying the existence of the spirit at all, you’re misinterpreting me completely if that’s what you think.
I think it shines more light on your ignorance, to be honest… I never said anything about the existence of spirits, just that the associations and meanings are a bunch of mental fabrications which do nothing but cloud the lens of truth.

The spiritual people are the ones taking sides, not me. They’re too caught up in their theories to understand thing, too attached to the labels to have a clear perspective. Too stuck in the surface veneer to see the depth of things.

“It is like a finger, pointing away to the moon. DON’T concentrate on the finger, or you will miss all of that heavenly glory.” – Bruce Lee

You guys are concentrated on the finger. IGNORING the moon.

I never claimed that absence of evidence is evidence of absence. That’s another misinterpretation.
However, combining modern science with modern spiritualism won’t work because they contradict eachother too much. Mostly because spiritual “studies” are generally just imaginary make-believe, and partly because science “ignores” a lot of stuff because they haven’t got a good enough explanation for it (which is the purpose of science, an in-detail understanding of things.)

Though, there’s no need to combine these things. Because such a “combination” already exists, and has been around for millennia. It’s called occultism (or spiritualism, though that term has a different -ridiculous- meaning today.) Sure, there’s a fair bit of nonsense, ignorance, and misunderstandings, but there’s a lot of overlooked truth in there.
Properly explained too, unlike that spiritual woo-woo nonsense which rarely makes any sense unless you decipher what they’re saying through the art of metaphors, though most of them aren’t even aware that their “understanding” is really just a metaphor.

Keep your mind open, mate. Don’t cling to the labels and definitions, because they’re just surface-level bullshit.

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

@manimal,

Talking to you in a well meaning manner is clearly a lost cause. For most people I’d just leave it at that because it’s honestly a waste of breath. Someone who has made up their mind on something will not bother to open their mind and listen.

But in case you do.

I may have misinterpreted your words but your hotheadedness towards my flawed humanity is laughable. Don’t answer my sincere misunderstanding with your cockiness. You may know more than I do, you also may not. If we are here to converse and debate we must both be open minded.

“The spiritual people are the ones taking sides, not me. They’re too caught up in their theories to understand thing, too attached to the labels to have a clear perspective. Too stuck in the surface veneer to see the depth of things.”

Once you resort to attacking people for thinking a certain way, you take a side yourself. You’re bashing their “attachment” to labels and lack of clear perspective. You may act like an open minded individual but stop and be more aware of the things you say. You’re clearly on the opposing side in this matter. To be open minded you must be willing to lose in any debate. The goal is the TRUTH not victory. Many Greek philosophers, debaters, and public speakers preached that the truth is far more important than winning.

Someone who is so sure that things like the great pyramids are most certainly designed with brute force and basic physics has already shut himself out from the possibility of being wrong. It’s not the magic of Sacred Geometry, it’s not something beyond the physical realm. It’s whatever you believe to be because you are the holder of all truth.

You’re not here to share knowledge and learn and have an intelligible debate. You’re “manimal” the one who won’t give me a chance to speak and let my words and ideas have a time in the light of your mind. Everything I say, or anyone else says is for naught because you’ve made up your mind that any evidence, research or claims we make is a shitload of nonsense. A bunch of “spiritual woo-woo nonsense”.

Keep my mind open? haha please buddy, just look at the way you talk. You’re a very narrow minded individual. I don’t believe in their spiritual metaphors as literal truth. I’m not psychotic. I’m saying that the pyramids and other wonders would have taking a fascinating amount of effort to construct, so there is a probability that there is much more to it than we know. I’m not saying it’s all magic spirit voodoo, or that it’s all science. But it could be either, both, or something else entirely.

I don’t argue a side, I’m not arguing against you. I’m neutral and I observe all evidence and all possibilities.

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Nick (554) (@splashartist) 9 years, 9 months ago ago

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

@egarim, How am I the close minded one? You’re the one getting all hostile and shit.
Cockiness? I’m not being cocky, mate. That’s just your misinterpretation, again.
But, yknow, slapping labels like “cocky” on someone gives you a good excuse to disregard what they’re saying, innit?

I didn’t attack anyone for thinking some way? Where did I say anything like that? That’s right, I didn’t. But look at you, wasn’t that whole post an attempt to attack my way of thinking?

Spirit people ARE taking sides, that’s undeniable. I never bashed them or their way of thinking, I just explained how they’re wrong, there’s no bashing involved, just observation of what-is. They ARE attached to the labels and they DO lack a clear perspective, that’s just how things are, I never said anything negative about it.

Yes, it’s about the truth, that’s exactly why I’m doing this. I’m not the one concerned with winning. You are, or rather you’re concerned with not losing, which is even worse. All I did was share my knowledge, and you immediately decided to try and fight me, I’m not fighting but you keep pursuing the fight.
Yet you’re accusing me of being the one trying to win, that’s parataxic distortion and hypocrisy, and I find it hilarious.

Where did I ever say I was certain about the pyramids being built by brute force, or anything like that? Oh yeah, I never did. You drew that conclusion out of thin air.
Sacred geometry is used in the design, that’s it, sacred geometry isn’t magic, it’s just geometry. You can’t move blocks from point A to point B using geometry, but you can arrange them according to this knowledge of geometry, which they obviously did.
The notion of a physical realm and a non-physical realm is fallacious at a fundamental level, everything is physical, everything is energy. All dimensions exist together only, without all dimensions reality couldn’t be, thereby there are no other planes because all planes are one.
Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you that this stuff I just explained, is also explained by the people who explained sacred geometry.

I am here to share knowledge, that’s why I’m here. I like learning as well, it’s how I live. Having an intelligent debate doesn’t work when the person I’m debating to refuses to debate like a mature person.
Yes, I do give your ideas a time in the light of my mind. But yknow, I’ve already been through all that stuff, it’s nothing new, and I have already had it disproven beyond reasonable doubt and found stuff that makes more sense and actually works and is in alignment with what really is.

That’s why what you say is for naught, just like how what a newbie hobby chemist says has no value to the really dedicated experienced chemist.
When the newbie chemist claims that combining potassium and sulfur makes oxygen, why should the experienced chemist “be open to the possibility” when it’s obviously incorrect?

I don’t claim to know this shit, all I’m saying is that you’re wrong, because you are. I never said that I’m right, only you did.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

Speaking of which, this song is pretty darn tight

and this one

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cheeky (76) (@cheeky) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

@egarim, @manimal

Regarding woo-woo ideas, it can all be explained, we simply do not have the answers at this time. This may be why where we are having trouble relating ideas to each other. To dismiss spiritual evidence, or any evidence until it is proven by western science is not advisable, and here is the logic.

Since western science has not accepted most eastern knowledge, or most knowledge that cannot be profitable, its vision is limited. Fortunately, we are seeing this once useful organization shaken to its core with the internet and the collapse of other control mechanisms. Once capitalism’s directive tendencies are deemed ignorant of truth, and all knowledge combined under the undeniable eye of truth, we should be well on our way to these discoveries.

Qi Gong has some answers that panders both to scientific and spiritual arguments. Trends show these should be combined in the not too distant future. If you guys have torrents, check this video series to see what I’m talking about. Dr. Yang is a Physics PHD and Qi Gong expert.

http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/5490966/Understanding_Qi_Gong_-_Part_1

One more piece of compelling research — The Source Field Investigations – This is the latest culmination of DOCUMENTED research regarding the unity of consciousness, physics and biology. It is packed with documented sources that explains where all this is headed.

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Manimal (2,998) (@manimal) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

@cheeky, There are a lot more answers than you think. Just because you don’t have the answers doesn’t mean others don’t. There are people who know a lot more than you or me about this kind of stuff, they’re using it yknow. Doing is knowing.

The problem with this “there is no answer” way of thinking, is that when the answers are presented we automatically ignore them because the existence of an answer contradicts with our made-up reality. We’d rather keep jerking our minds off with stimulating theories and shit, instead of observing how things ACTUALLY WORK.

When you say there is no answer, you’re projecting. Creating illusions. Ignoring reality. Hiding from god. Whatever you wanna call it.
Believing that there is no answer is just like believing in a false answer, that’s really what it is. When you say we can’t know, you are claiming knowledge. Ironic, innit?

As for the Qi gong video… I don’t steal, so no thanks. I understand what you’re getting at though, qi gong is pretty cool stuff.

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Tony (21) (@antlob) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

Spirit science? It’d be nice if that youtube channel took “science” out of the title.

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

@manimal,

I hope you’re kidding. Can we get a second opinion in here? Someone read my post and tell me if I sound hostile? Manimal, don’t read every post that challenges you in an angry voice. I’m one of the calmest people as everyone who’s met me can attest to. I was not attacking you and I am sorry if I came off that way. My words can be aggressive sounding but they are conveyed to the best of my ability in a non-hostile manner.

“You’re the one getting all hostile and shit.
Cockiness? I’m not being cocky, mate. That’s just your misinterpretation, again.
But, yknow, slapping labels like “cocky” on someone gives you a good excuse to disregard what they’re saying, innit?”

I may have called you cocky but seeing as I read everything you said and replied to it, I don’t think I’m disregarding anything. Also seeing as I said that I’m neutral and that I consider all sides. I called you cocky because you acted cocky. Misinterpretation? You’re throwing Bruce Lee quotes at me and lecturing me when all I did was make a mistake in thinking that you were denying the existence of the spirit.

Like I said your hotheadedness towards my obvious human flaws is laughable… I’m sorry if I misinterpret it but you’re the hostile one. I’ve been trying to keep this thing neutral but you keep repeating what I say to you back at me like I want to win or fight. I’m not even taking a side so how can I win? Of the two sides of spirit and science you’ve chosen science and stated clearly that the spirit people don’t have proper evidence to back their claims therefore you’re not attacking them but clearly stating “what-is” and that is the truth you believe to be true. It’s you refuting the spirit claims while stating your own claims are valid… you are the one that’s trying to win.

I’m keeping both side open so that we can debate and that means I am also defending your side. I don’t care about winning, if you want to hear it: You win, you’re right, I’m sorry. I hope you can take those words to the grave. Winning is such a petty thing.

“Spirit people ARE taking sides, that’s undeniable. I never bashed them or their way of thinking, I just explained how they’re wrong, there’s no bashing involved, just observation of what-is.”

Yes, they are taking sides. But by denying them, so are you? Is not refuting one side taking the other? Neutrality is to consider both sides but as you said you have thought that way before and you have “moved” beyond it and have come up with better explanations beyond a reasonable doubt. These “spirit people” is a very vague description.. depending on what you mean not all these claims made by these spirit people is readily testable therefore you can’t disprove all of it. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, I keep saying it but consider what it means. I understand that your claims (following the logic of Occam’s Razor) are far more plausible and hence why waste time with farfetched leaps, correct? But seeing as it is not testable (maybe not as of yet) we should both be “open minded” and keep our MINDS OPEN to the possibility. Hence why I want to unite science and spirituality.

“Yes, it’s about the truth, that’s exactly why I’m doing this. I’m not the one concerned with winning. You are, or rather you’re concerned with not losing, which is even worse. All I did was share my knowledge, and you immediately decided to try and fight me, I’m not fighting but you keep pursuing the fight.
Yet you’re accusing me of being the one trying to win, that’s parataxic distortion and hypocrisy, and I find it hilarious.”

If it was about the truth you would be neutral.

And really? Cmon that second part is clearly an attempt to start an argument. I clearly stated that I’m neutral and I don’t care if you’re right or smarter than me or if it turns out it’s all science.

As for brute force and basic physics:
“Speaking of elephants, it is not unlikely that the ancient Egyptians used elephants to pull the massive stones. Elephants are very heavy and very strong, using a herd of elephants they could pull rocks like that.”

“You’re forgetting important factors, such as winches, log rollers and things like that. It’s a fully possible solution, like you said we need to remain open to the possibilities.”

Lastly, you said “I don’t claim to know this shit, all I’m saying is that you’re wrong, because you are. I never said that I’m right, only you did”.

Is that cocky or what? If you don’t know this shit then let us debate. This is why I didn’t want to waste my breath. You’re claiming my flawed argument proved you right and that you “don’t claim to know this shit” and yet all you’re saying is that I’m wrong. Because I am wrong. I wasn’t trying to be “right” I was trying to keep a debate two-sided instead of taking your side or challenging your side because by doing either I would be making this “debate” an “argument”. You’ve already refuted and shot down the opposing argument that the answers to the pyramids and otherwise is spiritual.

You effectively ended the debate by closing off opposing arguments because it’s nonsense in your mind…. hence why I’m calling you “narrow” minded. Get it? Cocky and narrow minded. I’m not throwing random insults at you, these are characterizations I am placing on you based on the way you’re acting.

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Egarim (363)C (@egarim) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

@alltoohuman,

You are very well-mannered. I like the way you translate your thoughts into words… it’s very calming haha. And yes, I am interested and fascinated by Phi. But that’s not something I need to delve into right now.

@cheeky,

We share a very similar stance in regards to spirituality and science (Western and Eastern studies, philosophies, sciences, etc). For the most part I am on the same page as you but obviously not entirely. As for Qi Gong, that is an entirely different subject altogether and the evidence behind it is both compelling (in some aspects) and ridiculous (in other aspects). I would very much like to see all the sources and research that you have found behind it but certainly not right now and right here.

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Zykanthos (4,757)M (@chodebalm) 9 years, 8 months ago ago

Amazing video here on the subject: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx31y1KKK3E

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