Salvia, is fucking insane.

TheBlueKraken (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 2 months ago

I’ll start this off by saying that salvia is the only hallucinogen I have any sort of real experience with. The first time I tried it I took a little hit and felt really cool, then later took like three hits before being made aware it was 100x. I was trapped In a world of zippers, I couldn’t believe it. Since then I’ve taken it nine or ten times and it amazes me how different it is every time. So last night a friend of mine was having a big party, and this kid had given me money to get some salvia cause he had never tripped before. So i got there way before anyone showed and we Went Up to his roof deck. My first hit was to show him what it was like, just a small hit and I started feeling it shoot up my body and I couldn’t stop laughing but I didn’t Trip. We were on a roof deck and he thought that the girl we were with and I were like two hundred feet away. So later this chick I’ve liked for a long time shows up and I asked if she wanted to try some, she had never tripped before. So we went back up to the deck, and I packed like two hits into it and ripped all of it. Everything started to layer slowly and it was really nice, the girls face looked even more beautiful to me cause it was glowing haha. She had a really good time, just a little hit and she thought the trees were made of cheese. Later in the night we were inside and I wanted to take one hit that was gonna make me trip hard cause I hadn’t in a long time. So this girl was next to me, and there were like five other people in the room. I packed what is essentially 5 doses of Sally into my bowl, and ripped it hoping for the best. I held it in and let it out slowly. I felt a little more stoned and I was like I’m not Tripp…. Then it all fucking hit me. Everyone except my boy and the chick I really like was cut in half at the waist and their bodies were spinning incomprehensibly and one kid reached to touch my beard and the thought it was just a floating arm. So I stood up and everything kept layer long and spinning, and I had the instinct to walk into the bathroom. The closer I got the better I felt. So I went in with the door open to piss and rubbed my friends really colorful curtains while I did and then I went outside with the girl, and all the purple flowers were trailing and shiny. She sat with me and we talked for awhile over some cigarettes. Be careful with the shit haha, it’s really fickle. Also for anyone wondering, a standard dose of salvinorin a is like 1mg. The shit I had was 28mg per gram. Do a little math and see that one hit of what I had is 2.8-2.9mg per hit.

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cheeky (76) (@cheeky) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

imho, salvia is garbage. I don’t know anyone to have had a positive experience from it. I can relate to the zipper feeling, mine felt like octopus :P

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TheBlueKraken (2) (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@cheeky, I’ve heard good stories, but I have nice feelings. I’ve only done it so much cause no one around here has anything fun haha

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Mr. Arbiter (86) (@snaysler) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

Every time I smoke salvia, I do not “trip”. I see no visuals, no change in perception, completely straight/sober. The only difference is that I lose control of my body, and some other being takes over, talks to people, walks around saying/doing bizarre things. I can see through the windshield, but I’m in the passenger seat. I just have to sit in my head and watch what this other guy is doing with my body, patiently waiting for him to leave so I can have my body back. I don’t like the feeling very much. I’ve never really had visuals on anything but DMT, and I had been hoping salvia would give me some because I got 40x from a very well-respected online vendor, so all my friends that tried it tripped absolute sack. I even smoke much more than them but this is all I get.

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TheBlueKraken (2) (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

I mean man it just really depends on the person. I’m at the point where if its not really high potency I have to smoke a straight half bowl of the shit. I’ve had times where I felt relaxed, I’ve had times where I lost myself completely believing I had stepped into another dimension, I get crazy insane fucking visuals when I trip hard on it. Maybe your brain doesn’t react well to salvinorin a, I’m not sure. Also, it has NEVER once (until last night) worked for me to trip hard and not just feel a little stoned unless I hadn’t smoked any pot for a couple hours before. What is reccommend if you want to try and he visuals or just experience it, get ONE friend whom you trust. Tape a couple of cool colored swirly posters to your ceiling and lay on your floor with some calming music and if you start to feel too fucked up talk to your friend. I’ve found that when I get lost that the best way to feel a connection to our world is to talk to someone. If I hadn’t been with that girl when I tripped in front of all those people last night I would’ve been alot more scared than I was. It really depends person to person. If you want to see fucked up shit buy Salvia Zone brand Salvia. There’s five levels (green, yellow, red, purple, and blue), each is meant to reach a different point within a salvia trip. Green barely got me high, yellow is what I had last night and I had to smoke like 5 hits (Approx. 15 mg salvinorin a) to trip hard. The red, Jesus I was fucking anihalated on two tiny pinches a few seconds apart. I wouldn’t reccommend it to someone unless you want to gain experience. I’ve had fun on it, but honestly I’m more thankful for the really scary shit that prepares me for real future trips.

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TheBlueKraken (2) (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

Oh and @snaysler, the losing control of your body and being taken over is sometimes what people seek to achieve. Most use it for meditative purposes, their minds are much stronger than mine cause I couldn’t do that.

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ELizard (229) (@heavydreamz) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@snaysler, @TheBlueKraken,
the ***trick is to get as much smoke in just one slo burn and hold the hit as long as possible. its an only one chance kinda deal. you have to hit it really hard but the key is so slow that it doesnt make you cough up the whole bowl.
try packing an entire bowl, frying the whole thing in one slow-deep-inhale, slow enough that youre able to breathe extra air, then hold your hit as long as you can, comfortably meditating hopefully in sunlight (lots of light makes for vivid visuals) or any comfortable place to roll around ..after 20-30 sec. everything starts warping sideways, your perplexed by which way gravity is pulling down so when you try to put your lighter and bowl down on the ground .. you may head-dive or start running sideways. someone called it ‘sideways-joe’. if u hold the smoke for something closer to a minute you’ll perceive some other ‘universes’ ‘heavens’ ‘hells’ whatever your mind manifests in a way that its almost trying to ‘unmask’ your perceived reality, a kind of folding even beyond the dream world.. super trippy and entheogenic!!! i highly recommend using salvia by this method, im basically citing a bunch of different sources and my experience with that info.. its how to get her message and she’s a plant spirit that demands respect. Ive heard there are 5 ‘worlds’ of a salvia journey, 1st level is a slight but apparent shift in consciousness similar to smoking tobacco, the highest being a blackout.. second to highest is the reportedly (perceived) sensation of telepathically communicating with higher dimensional beings, at this point you may be totally removed from the body in your mind. you only need to get there once to learn its lesson. happy journeying.

Shout out if you’ve experienced this

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@snaysler, I didn’t get them the first 20 trips or so. It was too much. After a while, my nervous system got used to it and I was able to have visuals. It helps being used to the active ingredient, then you can navigate the space better. It’s weird doing it outside on a partly cloudy day.

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Clark (1) (@sh3nan1gans) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

I’ve been told that butane torch lighters are the way to go. Apparently the active ingredient in Salvia needs to be burned at a higher temperature in order to fully work.

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TheBlueKraken (2) (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@heavydreamz, the second time I ever smoked salvia I closed my eyes and breathed in the smoke, as I exhaled I thought pleasant things. When I opened my eyes I saw where we were but the landscape looked so different to me, more colors and there were red zippers around everything that started opening and revealing the duplicate image on the other side. And I started to feel as If something was controlling my body, it took over and I started turning my head and the zippers tangled and tangled the more I turned. First my gf was sitting next to me and I started to see her face melt. I looked away to see how bad the zippers were and I turned back and there was no one there, I was trapped In a room full of zippers by myself, and I was totally lost of myself or any semblance of sanity. I started to ask myself who I was and I could quite perceive if I was actually the same person, or if this disturbing demention had changed me to the point where this had become my reality. Which at the time I was misinformed and was told salvia was just like strong ass pot. Research everything, it’s really not for everyone. I’ve had nightmares for weeks about bad trips before man, and until recently I didn’t believe in a meditative or spiritual use for it. It just brings you totally inside yourself to the places you don’t understand and that want to control you, don’t fight it and things will be okay. The scariest part honestly is the trips with super heavy dissociation like I was talking about.

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TheBlueKraken (2) (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@sh3nan1gans, Salvinorin A. You are correct, that is the best purest way to smoke it. Though if you use a regular lighter you can just hold it on your hit continuously. It’s very intense if you do use the butane torch, another factor is how long you hold it in for. Either way it’s really insane. Fun (scarcely for most), scary (mostly for most), and totally fucking unpredictable. @ballsackturtles23, bro it took you twenty trips to get visuals? That’s pretty crazy. Maybe you have some natural aversion to salvinorin a. I mean it’s the most powerful natural hallucinogen. I know people who take ALOT of fucking hallucinogens and won’t even touch the shit because its so intense. The threshold dose is 1-1.5mg of salvinorin a (approxamity 1/10g of 5x Sally, 1.25mg). And I usually get visuals anything above 3mg (2/10g of 10x-15x Sally). That’s quite curious.

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Anonymous (272) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@TheBlueKraken, No sir, you don’t understand. It was so intense the first few times, I had no memory. I couldn’t navigate ‘hyperspace’. After I got used to being in that place, I could navigate it and remember the trip and what not.

Salvia is like jazz. It’s an aquired taste. It gets better the more you understand it.

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cheeky (76) (@cheeky) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@TheBlueKraken, I feel your pain :)

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TheBlueKraken (2) (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ballsackturtles23, actually that makes sense. Everything kinda becomes a blur to a point when you take too high a dose either way. I just wish it was smoother but I’ve learned things from it and yesterday I had some really beautiful moments that made me feel more a part of nature. I’d reccommend in the rain, it was fucking amazing and everything kinda shimmered in raindrops while the layers cut purple flowers blooming from the trees and had all the color melt onto this girl I was with’s face. She took it for the first time and she thought that all trees around her were made of cheese . I’ve always loved jazz, so I got you man haha. That seems like some bad salvia music though. @cheeky, it’s nice to know at least I’m not alone, I guess my favorite part is that it hits the reset button. You either have fun or you’re terrified, but each time you come out a little more experienced and feeling better about where you are having faced fears.

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

That’s weird dude. If you can walk around though, you didn’t take enough :)
The oddity of salvia has only warranted one trip with me. I say one and done with salvia, but make sure you go all the way…

I had 40x and I have lungs of an ox. I took an enormous hit and slowly lost the ability to function, and fell backwards and closed my eyes. ‘goodbye!’

I was thrown in this fractal, and soon the fractal became obvious to me what it was made out of. It was all these people, all dressed and colored certain ways, very brightly colored, and their texture was so distinct. So other-worldly. And they all wanted to grab me and rip me apart.

In ways I can’t really explain or understand, the fractal merged into this child’s play house, unfortunately it was only about 2 feet high, but wide and long as a normal room. Everything was primary colors – yellow blue and red – and made of that plush gym-mat material from the 90’s. As I walked, or rather crawled, through this space, every section of ‘mat’ would come out and grab me. It started to dawn on me how fucked I was, for I had forgotten I had taken salvia, or had made the realization that I was never going back to reality.

What came next was so frightening – my friends started to appear in my trip alongside the mats and house made of people. They were standing in a line, but it was so obvious to me that my entire life was some joke. That they knew all of this was here my whole life, yet they didn’t tell me. Somehow they were these kind of spirits, or aliens, simply creating my existence for me. It was a cosmic-truman show. Beyond cosmic – all of reality was constructed just for me, and everyone was watching.

As I tried to explain to them how I knew what was going on, I tried to grab the people out of the mat and say “Hey! I know! I figured it out – see?” But I couldn’t get the people out. No matter how hard I tried, these people were like stone, unmovable by my meager strength. My friends kept telling me “What are you talking about?” yet I could see clear through their lies, they knew exactly!

As I ripped and teared into this mat material, trying to grab the people, they started to fade. Everything started to change… The mat became an actual rock, and my finger nails were digging in the crevices. Finally the last face disappeared and I was back outside, accompanied by my betraying friends, sitting contorted on the grass, clawing away at a rock.

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cheeky (76) (@cheeky) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@TheBlueKraken, completely agree about the reset button. Desperate times also require desperate measures

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Derek (11) (@wailingmoonman) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

I tried this once or twice. I threw on a shpongle album for good measure, and just remember folding in on myself over and over. I also took a vid of me on it (never published and quickly deleted) and it was so weird, watching myself have this entire inaudible conversation….with someone who wasn’t there.

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Bartleby the Scrivener (29) (@unpaid-intern) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

firts time I did it, it was soooooooo fucking cool.
second time I did it, I experienced the second dimension.
third time I did it, was the last time I ever did it and will be. The absolute worst drug experience I have ever had in my life.

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TheBlueKraken (2) (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, I mean man I’ve taken 100x, 40x, 20x, 10x, and down. I really prefer/ would recommend to anyone looking to try the shit, that you use standardized extracts so you know how many mg of Salvinorin A (approx.) per hit. Man whenever I trip and see the fractals and go to geometry land, I can stand up. It’s also worth mentioning that when I stood up though I thought I was in the second dimension, I was not able to walk until like 2 minutes into my Trip. I’ve never had a problem with walking on it though. Man you’re trip sound really intensely amazing. See my lungs are also of the ox persuasion, but I do not take the biggest hit In the universe because the dissociative effect works differently for me than I’ve ever heard anyone talk about. And I hate the fact that I don’t know where I am .8 seconds later. @unpaid-intern, salvia is scary, every time pretty much. If you don’t expect it the feeling is much worse. If you don’t like it take some nice shrooms. @wailingmoonman, yeah man I’ve seen a video of myself and talking to the air always makes me laugh. What I think is craziest about Sally is that people get stuck to things. I was with a kid once and he took a huge hit. He touched the wall to keep his balance when he started feeling it shoot up his body. So he literally stood there completely dilated pupils staring at the wall for five minutes. And when he came out of it he told me that his hand became part of the wall. And when he ripped it off, he fell into another dimension just opened by his hand.

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TheBlueKraken (2) (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, man I can’t get over how cool that sounds haha. How much do you usually take? Cause to get to where I got the other night, I smoked between three and five doses (at the same time) of 15x. So that’s 10-13mg of Salvinorin A vaporized into my lung machines. For everyone who doesn’t know the illusive “x” system. Take the potency of the bag of the “x” and multiply it by 2.5.
Ex: 10×2.5=25
This means ten times stronger than 2.5mg of salvinorin A (2.5 average potency of a gram of natural dried salvia leaves). So there is approx 25mg/g of Salvinorin A in one gram of 10x Sally. Since a standard Experience is 1/10th of a gram, there is 2.5mg/dose of Salvinorin A.

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@TheBlueKraken, I don’t know, the guy packed a full bowl for me and said I could have it all. He kept taking hits and laughing and looking like an idiot. I figured I wanted to take it all the way so I inhaled and inhaled and inhaled and kept going till I felt like my lungs were about to burst.

Then, gravity just took over and I lowered myself down, closed my eyes, and was gone.

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TheBlueKraken (2) (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, Yeah just FYI, you took like 9-10 doses, depending on the strength (an this is according to 10x standard), you took like 19-21.5 mg of Salvinorin A, which is like 7 times the normal dose. I just wanted to let you know haha. The normal Dose in this case Being tripping hard enough for visuals (3mg-5mg).

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@TheBlueKraken, oh.

lol

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Nathan Douglas (12) (@jonnyopinion) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

Can you smoke salvia mixed with weed or tobacco?

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Anonymous (20) (@) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@heavydreamz, yo man, I definitely have experienced the other “universe” trip you mentioned, except mine was in hell. I thought I fell down the stairs at my buddies house and basically thought I was tumbling through matter until I landed in hell. There were demons mocking me and beckoning me to come and join them, needless to say I was scared shitless.

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ELizard (229) (@heavydreamz) 9 years, 2 months ago ago

@aimlesscreation, i feel you man, once i started running bc i couldnt tell which way was down, i guess i almost dove into a lake we were camped nearby. i felt like i was spinning upsidedown backwards talking to an orange liquid worm alien cartoon who was teaching me to go with the flow. night time salvia trips are weird you cant tell what your seeing, you start walking around bc you can barely tell what your body is doing.


@jonnyopinion
, funny i tried this the other night, mixed with weed and some other herbs, instead of a psychedelic journey i woke up confused about how i fell asleep the night before, my best (not to be confused with pleasant) experiences were from hitting the shit straight as hard as i can and holding as long as i can, shit goes sideways

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