Salvia, is fucking insane.

TheBlueKraken (@TheBlueKraken) 9 years, 1 month ago

I’ll start this off by saying that salvia is the only hallucinogen I have any sort of real experience with. The first time I tried it I took a little hit and felt really cool, then later took like three hits before being made aware it was 100x. I was trapped In a world of zippers, I couldn’t believe it. Since then I’ve taken it nine or ten times and it amazes me how different it is every time. So last night a friend of mine was having a big party, and this kid had given me money to get some salvia cause he had never tripped before. So i got there way before anyone showed and we Went Up to his roof deck. My first hit was to show him what it was like, just a small hit and I started feeling it shoot up my body and I couldn’t stop laughing but I didn’t Trip. We were on a roof deck and he thought that the girl we were with and I were like two hundred feet away. So later this chick I’ve liked for a long time shows up and I asked if she wanted to try some, she had never tripped before. So we went back up to the deck, and I packed like two hits into it and ripped all of it. Everything started to layer slowly and it was really nice, the girls face looked even more beautiful to me cause it was glowing haha. She had a really good time, just a little hit and she thought the trees were made of cheese. Later in the night we were inside and I wanted to take one hit that was gonna make me trip hard cause I hadn’t in a long time. So this girl was next to me, and there were like five other people in the room. I packed what is essentially 5 doses of Sally into my bowl, and ripped it hoping for the best. I held it in and let it out slowly. I felt a little more stoned and I was like I’m not Tripp…. Then it all fucking hit me. Everyone except my boy and the chick I really like was cut in half at the waist and their bodies were spinning incomprehensibly and one kid reached to touch my beard and the thought it was just a floating arm. So I stood up and everything kept layer long and spinning, and I had the instinct to walk into the bathroom. The closer I got the better I felt. So I went in with the door open to piss and rubbed my friends really colorful curtains while I did and then I went outside with the girl, and all the purple flowers were trailing and shiny. She sat with me and we talked for awhile over some cigarettes. Be careful with the shit haha, it’s really fickle. Also for anyone wondering, a standard dose of salvinorin a is like 1mg. The shit I had was 28mg per gram. Do a little math and see that one hit of what I had is 2.8-2.9mg per hit.

May 25, 2013 at 8:16 am
TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 9 years ago ago

@ijesuschrist, “my entire life was some joke…all of reality was constructed just for me”

I know this thread is about salvia, but that sounds pretty much like every shrooms trip I’ve ever had. I don’t know what it is about heavy psychedelics, but I feel they are a double-edged sword. On the one hand, I love the enhanced colors like someone has gone over the whole world in neon crayons. And I like the shimmering, shifting patterns that appear. But the psychological side is really weird. I also have gotten the feeling that my entire life is a joke, and that all of reality is constructed for me, and by me….I once tripped pretty hard and thought all of reality was encased in a little room, and that everything outside of the room was just made up by my subconscious, and I would just see whatever I projected where ever I went. I even thought that about the city in the distance, that it was just a projection of my imagination, because SOMETHING had to be in the window in order for me to stay sane. I was really scared that night of doing something stupid, because at that moment, I was 100% convinced that if I did something stupid and hurt myself, got killed, or went to jail, I’d just wake up in that room again. It was one of the most frightening nights of my life.

I also felt really bad, too. I felt like I could step outside myself and view myself from the perspective of an observer, that I could see who I really was without any self-preserving bias and that the truth was, I was an asshole. I guess that was all the ego or something, idk….but I felt like anyone who had ever interacted me, ever in my life, either wasn’t real or had only ever pretended to be my friend out of pity/boredom/me just too simple to see it. It was a lousy feeling.

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 9 years ago ago

@theskafish, “and that everything outside of the room was just made up by my subconscious, and I would just see whatever I projected where ever I went.”

“.but I felt like anyone who had ever interacted me, ever in my life, either wasn’t real or had only ever pretended to be my friend out of pity/boredom/me just too simple to see it. ”

Welcome to the club! Every trip I have is incredibly confronting, like these two perspectives – that either reality itself is essentially either my own construction (and thus all my happiness and sadness are illusions made by my own subconscious) or that my whole life is a lie created just for me and that everyone else is very aware of ‘everything’ else and just hangs out with me.

Both are horrendously hard to deal with while on psychedelics and the feeling of ‘this won’t go away when I come down’ is the absolute worst thing I’ve ever experienced in my life. That kind of fear is so pervasive, there was nothing I could do to prevent it from consuming me.

I really never understood how to deal with those types of perspectives. I can mostly avoid them, but if they ever confront me, especially while high or something, I have no idea what to do but to submit myself to the torture of absolute meaninglessness. Kind of a fucked up way to get ambition in life, but thats how it happens for me.

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jah (0) (@bman) 9 years ago ago

Ive done dmt, shrooms, ketamine, dxm, Lsd, and nothing gave me such a weird dirty trip feeling like salvia did. It was intense but had a toxic feeling to it, I cant seem to see how people would want to do this more than once. But to each is their own I guess.

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jonathan orinn (1) (@orinn) 9 years ago ago

Salvia has always been really good to me. I developed a revolutionary way of orally ingesting it by extracting the liquid mass from the leaves.
Using this method I was transported to the spiritual world and suddenly involved in a heated debate amongst groups of angelic(and not so angelic) pixie/fairies about who’s turn it was to mow the lawn in a garden outside god’s palace. It was stunningly beautiful, supramundane, yet had a surprisingly everday feel about it. Salvia can show you the universe and beyond.
It’s possibly how willing we are to leave our mental and egoic confines, that determines whether we have a good or bad experience…

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TheSkaFish (962)M (@theskafish) 9 years ago ago

@orinn, “I developed a revolutionary way of orally ingesting it by extracting the liquid mass from the leaves.”

Do tell. That world you went to sounds very interesting, very, Lewis Carroll-ish, in a way.

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jah (0) (@bman) 9 years ago ago

@orinn, oral salvia what kind of trip duration can be expected?

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jonathan orinn (1) (@orinn) 9 years ago ago

@theskafish, @bman, oral salvia usually means that you chew the leaves, called “quidding”.
You have a mouthful of leaf and by chewing, the salvinorin content is gradually absorbed “sublingually”. Then you spit that out and chew some more leaves…the leaves are bitter but not totally intolerable. It’s just a massive mouthful, ie , don’t wear your favourite tshirt!
Duration of the chewed experience is supposedly longer than smoked, although I’ve always found it fairly short lived 20 minutes max.
Quidding gives a certain bodily awareness,it comes on gradually so you don’t fall flat on the floor, you can more or less remain sitting upright.
With my technique which I call “squidding”, you use a masticating(not centrifugal!) juicer (hand or electric) to pre extract the liquid from the leaves. You end up with a shotglass full of powerful salvinorin essence. To be honest, the first time I tried this, I had no idea it would be so powerful. I was on the floor, and in a very different world. It took me far further than extract ever has, and believe me, I’m no hardhead!

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CCH (4) (@Cris) 9 years ago ago

@heavydreamz, yes totally correct we have experienced exactly as described , feeling of knowledge being shared by a being, total out of body ….we did not know there are levels as described but it sounds 100% correct and in tune with what my husband and i have experienced

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CCH (4) (@Cris) 9 years ago ago

@cheeky, No it is not Garbage at all! Is all about the way you go into it. Depends of the level of spirituality and what is in your mind that you look to achieve by using the plant. It is not an ordinary plant. With respect and preparation it is truly an amazing experience one that changes ones life forever. One of the experiences I had was that of literally seeing what happens in the immediat future in the same room i was. I saw what my friend will say and and what my mom will say and do , as I GOT BACK LITERALLY ONLY 1 MIN LATER THE WHOLE THING PLAYED OUT, Like a movie everything i saw under Salvia happened in the room every word every movement everything..First thing I said is OMG I just saw all this happen . Honestly is the most amazing feeling …You can not believe that Salvia showed you what will happen next …I was thinking in my head “This is not what I expected”

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