Sandy Hook Hoax?

Taylor (@chabalamp) 9 years, 5 months ago

Someone sent me this just now

http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/

I’m not sure how I feel about this, seeing as how I’m very skeptical,
but if this were true, I wouldn’t be surprised.

Any opinions?

January 8, 2013 at 1:14 am
Anonymous (50) (@) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Just been reading up on some of these and wow they are quite mind blowing. I know first hand that the media can make up some of the details they put in their articles. It could have also been easy to make these kinds of conspiracy on the vunlerability of this particular case yet it does make sense with all these different images about anti-gun laws!

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@limitedmoon, I do know that the media chooses what they broadcast, but I’m very very skeptical about conspiracies.

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Anonymous (251) (@) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

Why does everything have to be a conspiracy. I see nothing on that site to make me think it was. The media not telling the whole truth and getting facts wrong…oh shocker. Also witness statements are unreliable, so there will be completely different views of what happened on the day depending on who you speak to.

Stop talking about it. Can anyone name a single victim from this day. Not me. I have however heard and seen Adam Lanzas name on a regular basis since it happened. There is something very wrong with this picture.

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Anonymous (50) (@) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezvIsTJAM_E

This really gets me no way is that not scripted his thoughts are so clear for a guy who just suffered such a tragic loss his emotions fail to make any sense to me. The only thing I wonder though was this actually broadcast on tv? or is this just fake and some randoms trying their own fishy thing on the side.

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@siantastic, I don’t see why it’s not okay to talk about something that is circulating around in the country I live in. I didn’t say that I believed it, I only asked for opinions.

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Jim (55) (@7dabs) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@chabalamp, Three Days Before Shooting “United Way Extends Our Most Sincere Condolences To Sandy Hook Families” http://govtslaves.info/three-days-before-shooting-united-way-extends-our-most-sincere-condolences-to-sandy-hook-families/

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@limitedmoon, watched the entire thing. I still don’t know how to feel about it all.

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@7dabs, interesting, but if this were really an inside job, why would they leave so many holes. Why would shit get out to reduce the credibility of the event? Why should we find out it was an inside job?

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Jim (55) (@7dabs) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@chabalamp, i have no idea.. i was just sharing something relevant to this topic. I still don’t know what to make of the whole shooting but something tells me this is part of an elaborate scheme to take away peoples gun rights so that an armed resistance against the government can never happen.

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@7dabs, that’s the ONLY logical reason for this. But if the government wanted to take away guns, why not just take them away?

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@limitedmoon was kind enough to ask my opinion about this in another thread ;) I’ll repost here as well because it’s about this thread lol and might contribute to discussion.

“I think it happened as it’s presented and there is no conspiracy theory. News corporations and lobby groups will of course manipulate facts to pursue their own interests after an event of this magnitude. Events like this are catalysts for change, whether its good or bad, because its something that toys with the emotions of the public – an easy time to push a ticket! Sometimes I think people mistake this and question the facts of the event, rather than what motivates the people presenting the facts.”

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Jim (55) (@7dabs) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@chabalamp, because there are 80 million gun owners in America and if they try to take our guns it will create a revolution or some sort of backlash. The US military only has 2 Million men.. the American people would fuck the government up and they know it!

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@7dabs, hm. I didn’t know about those numbers. That’s interesting to think about.

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Anonymous (40) (@) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

I don’t know much about this but I’ll check the link when I have time.

The one in the pictures when the Batman film was playing a few months ago was strange though. I mean, for an ‘obsessed fan’, you’d think he’d know what the character vaguely looked like.

It looked like a really half-arsed attempt – not the work of someone who was actually trying to be ‘Joker-esque’. Still, they did enough damage but it just seemed a little fishy.

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@7dabs, Well I suppose that’s a reason why you shouldn’t have guns.

Guns for urban/suburban citizens are absolutely unnecessary no matter how you want to warp it. It is such an outdated concept, we do not need guns to fight a government and to oppose the oppressors – we need to be able to think and use our voice. Has anyone not heard of Gandhi or Mandela? It’s been done before people and it will be done again!

How about we give up the guns from the populace then we ask governments to do the same. Let’s start thinking about creating a real revolution without the violence please?

A revolution of love, not fear.

A revolution of ideas, not brutality.

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@misterkal, With that logic the government would probably have done an even better job of making him look like the joker. They just have to look in the mirror and recreate accordingly.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@chabalamp, @7dabs, @jakehay, I cant say whether i believe 100% that it was all a set up but there are certainly things that present the possibility. All i know is that its possible it was a set up by the government along with the other shootings as a way to take our guns away. They cant just take them away without a majority of Americans speaking out saying they want guns taken away. The media makes people feel as if guns were taken away that violence wold stop which is completely outrageous. You think that having law abiding citizens turn in guns that will make crime stop, no way because gang members and criminals will certainly be holding onto their non-registered illegal guns.

Back to the Sandy Hook Shooting. What happened to the 2nd shooter? Why did the kid put on body armor and then kill himself? Why is it that the .223 round is being brought up all around the place but there are other assault weapons with different calibers that they arent talking about? They are making people think only one type of weapon is capable of killing someone. My dad said he saw a video of a father that was about to give a speech laughing in the crowd and then coming to the podium almost fake grieving. Where are the surveillance tapes? Where are the leaked crime scene photos? Why was the kid let into the school carrying multiple guns in the first place or how did he get in? Also the father of this shooter and the one from Colorado, those fathers were both supposed to testify in court on a Liebor scandal. Coincidence, i dont think so. I dont think it was necessarily the entire government involved but the New World Order. Its been small incremental steps for years now starting even before Bush Sr. They have always talked about a One World Government and called it the New World Order, most notably in public by Bush Sr. in 1991. They would do anything to gain control, other governments have done it in the past. There are people out there stopping at nothing to gain more power and control over the people.

Once the 2nd amendment is gone, the 1st will go and so will the rest. People seem to think guns are bad and that its only in the constitution because we were “in a state of war” when it was written, but were always at war, just not always on our home front. Also when people think assault weapons are unnecessary, well as long as the government and military have them i think the American people should be able to have them to. As Jefferson said; (not exact words bc i forgot the quote) but the right to owns guns is to protect the people from government tyranny.

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Jim (55) (@7dabs) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@chabalamp, uhh hit up google and see for yourself

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, I think you present a really intelligent post but I respectfully disagree,

I truly believe with all my heart that we must move on from talking about the 2nd amendment as a destiny-deserving natural right. It was devised a long time ago when the British were a real threat of fuckin’ the Yankee shit up. People lived in remote places were they was literally no law or any other way to enforce justice except with one’s own hand.

The Constitution is great and there are many awesome things about it but it isn’t the Ten Commandments and isn’t set in stone and it most definitely should change with the times.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: It is our duty as individuals and societies to evolve and adapt to our current surroundings. Our current surroundings demand that we surrender violence as a form of protection and retribution. It’s been a long time coming folks, but this change has gotta come :)

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Jim (55) (@7dabs) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@jakehay, well i used to sell drugs in the real world and ive had nigs pull guns on me sooo i have an assault rifle just in case someone decides to rob me and kill me in my house. not everybody has a normal 9-5 existence. i also hunt because i live in pennsylvania so i’ll own guns if i want to brah.

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Jim (55) (@7dabs) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@jakehay, i dont own guns because im in fear of the government. i do it so i have the freedom to defend myself and not rely on doughnut-filled pigs

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@7dabs, Haha, alright man, well played.

I have a lot to learn from you.

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@7dabs, You don’t fear the government but you fear they can’t protect you?

You are an enigma!

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@jakehay, And thats the line between the American people. I think it is our right because we are born here and live here. We need the constitution to uphold that right. I think that we need guns to protect ourselves from government. But also as @7dabs said we also need guns to protect ourselves from people that may want to harm us, rob us, break in our home, assault loved ones or whatever and if those people can get their hands on semi-automatics illegally i want mine legally to protect myself. They need to focus on getting the guns out of the hands of criminals before they start taking rights away from law abiding americans. They also need not blame the guns for violence but blame the mental health of the kids that killed those people. They were loaded up on prescription meds and unstable. Its all a play to gain more control. I honestly dont think most people will be turning in their guns, i certainly wont be if it comes to that point. There is a reason gun sales are going through the roof because people are scared for their freedom and its our responsibility to fight for liberty and freedom because the government is taking it away. Its just now being accelerated and you have to plan for the worst and hope for the best. Like you said its opinion and you have yours i have mine but i prefer to be prepared and not trust the government.

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 9 years, 5 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, I guess you raise a good point. The gun culture in America is past the point of no return, if guns are to be recalled now, who isn’t to say that it is far too late and citizens should have a right to protect themselves from criminals who obviously won’t turn in their guns.

The counter argument is that the rest of the Western world has stricter gun policy and not nearly the amount of gun crime. It really does come down to that point of no return issue. It can argued either way.

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