Sandy Hook Hoax?

Taylor (@chabalamp) 9 years, 4 months ago

Someone sent me this just now

http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/

I’m not sure how I feel about this, seeing as how I’m very skeptical,
but if this were true, I wouldn’t be surprised.

Any opinions?

January 8, 2013 at 1:14 am
Jim (55) (@7dabs) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@jakehay, haha yea i suppose i am.. but i dont fear that they can’t protect me, i KNOW. my garage caught on fire a year ago… i put it out all by myself with a hose and the fire dept came a half hour later… worthless. I had someone break into my house and steal shit.. Cops couldn’t do anything about it. That’s partially why i feel the way i do about the state.. they’re worthless sometimes

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@jakehay, @7dabs, That is true Jim that sometimes they are worthless. Also Jake if you think about it and look into it, there are lots of crimes stopped by gun carrying individuals that are not covered by the media because they want everyone to think guns only do harm when in fact they are used to protect others daily by citizens when the law cannot get there in time. There is too much red tape and laws and times when justice isn’t served. Sometimes criminals are more protected than victims. Its a touchy subject and i will always back the 2nd amendment no matter how much violence the media says guns cause. I’m all for freedom of speech and love movies and shows and video games, all that when I’m bored and have nothing else to do but they promote violence like crazy but yet we want to blame guns. Society is the problem and we are too desensitized and too disconnected from each other. People don’t value others lives and until society changes i need to be armed.

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@jakehay, The Western culture itself is different. They are more in touch with their fellow man, they have morals and values. Americans are self centered, hateful towards each other and really its just not the same. We over here are obsessed with material goods, obsessed with celebrities, stare at the TV for hours and hours on end while in the west they are just totally different, maybe in a better way, maybe not but thats another topic. So with our country operating the way it does, with all the illegal guns and other messed up shit out there we need to follow the laws of the old wise men that wrote our constitution and not let the government tell us otherwise.

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, Think of all the crimes that would be stopped if the GOVERNMENT TOOK ALL THE GUNS!

Haha too easy :P Your last sentence is what makes you a rational human and not a gun nut for the sake of violence. I still don’t agree with gun ownership but I’d rather a gun in your hands than poor old Jim a few posts above lol.

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Jim (55) (@7dabs) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@jakehay, yea first of all im 21 so im not old by any means and id never harm anyone unless they attacked me so i’m not sure what you mean by that

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Josh (213) (@reinvented2012) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@jakehay, Oh yea for sure. I like to consider myself rational. I am not for violence what so ever, just for self defense. I am definitely a lover before a fighter and everything that the hippies stood for i agree with except for the no guns thing and thats just because there is so many bad people out there with them i dont want to feel helpless. But good talk man, i look forward to seeing you on other posts.

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Subwoofer Stevens (246) (@jakehay) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, Yeah, you’re alright my man :)

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Anonymous (251) (@) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@chabalamp, sorry that wasn’t actually aimed at you. I can totally see why you would think that now. I meant society in general. It seems completely messed up to me that all the victims become part of nothing more than a statistic of ‘one of the worst school shootings’ but yet his name will now go down in history. It can be one of the main factors in these crimes, the fact that these killers become notorious.

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, I’ve actually watched/read about everything you’ve mentioned; down to the quote.

These are the points that I raised, but because I’m so skeptical, it’s hard for me to believe in conspiracy theories. If this is fact, however. Then I don’t know what we will do.

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@siantastic, I don’t know. I’m starting to believe it was all staged because I see nothing but pure evidence. They say that one of the victims “killed” was accidentally filmed on someone’s lap a few days later. Click the links in the thread. I’m still open to believe that it was a real thing, but at this point, I don’t know.

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Anonymous (130) (@) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

LOL

Not one parent seems to manifest genuine grief. WHAT THE FUCK???

…this is too ridiculous to even be revolting.

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Anonymous (130) (@) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

THEY`RE FUCKING LYING TO YOU!! SO GODDAMN OBVIOUS! GET YOUR FORKS AND TORCHES AND BURN DOWN THE WHITEHOUSE!

…stupid motherfuckers, they can`t even get some decent actors.

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@seeker, Could it be that the parents were in shock? If we were analyzing this from a perspective that didn’t include a conspiracy. What reason could there be for such indifference?

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Anonymous (130) (@) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@chabalamp, did you see the interview with the medical examiner?

….extremely disturbing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShgdN8arHCc

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Mosesonator (52) (@mosesonator) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@jakehay – I agree with you that a non violent revolution of love is the proper course, and that we need to disarm toward this end, but not under these circumstances.

I dont believe that the majority of weapons should be confiscated and regulated by a self serving minority. The freedom to own a gun is ultimately the issue, and we as a people must defend our freedoms.

I think the best course of action is to fiercely & peacefully protest the confiscation of guns, while ensuring no guns or violent methods are used in the defense of this freedom.

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Anonymous (130) (@) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@chabalamp, they`re lying, it`s absolutely obvious…suspiciously obvious…

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cori (25) (@c0r1) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMINqFGNr-w

that was enough to completely convince me it was bullshit.

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@c0r1, there’s so much quality evidence. I just can’t get past the fact that if this were true, there shouldn’t BE evidence. You know?

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TravisAD (53) (@travisad) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@chabalamp, If they just simply take them away there would be an uproar. It would never happen. If they wanted to take away guns, they need to make it seem as though it’s what the vox populi wants. Then no one could say anything against it because it’s what the people wanted.

I don’t know how I feel about this either. There is too much missing information for me to feel one way or another about it.

Here was another video I found interesting. Let me know what you think:
http://youtu.be/j_fI0hm1dqY

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Zach (0) (@stayfoolish) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

I find this extremely insulting because I live a mile away from Newtown, where the shooting occurred. I’m an EMT and although I was at school, I know first responders who will never be able to unsee what they saw that day. My mom works at Save the Children. She set up a tent and played with children for about a week. She saw kids who refused to talk for days after the shooting and during “drawing time” drew pictures of their dead classmates. I know people who lost children and grandchildren so please believe me when I say this is a very real tragedy.

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@stayfoolish, it wasn’t my intention to offend. I only asked for opinions on the matter. I’m very sorry you had to witness this firsthand.
I truly mean that.

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Zach (0) (@stayfoolish) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

Its all good. I also witnessed some of the other things people have mentioned, such as the overwhelming media presence. The first day I came back I went to pay my respects and I was confronted several times about conducting interviews. I watched the documentary Bowling for Columbine (which I recommend) but one interesting fact I took away from that film was “violent crimes have decreased by 60% but the reporting of violent crimes have increased by 300%”. I don’t know if this is a conspiracy but I do know that the media has used it to press their own agenda and I do know that 26 people lost their lives at Sandy Hook Elementary.

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@travisad, That video made me feel really weird. Could it be that there are just communication issues between the police and media,
like the police choosing to not have certain things released?

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@stayfoolish, while some people are saying the entire thing was staged because of clips of this guy rehearsing, websites stating condolences for the victims of Sandy Hook 3 days before the shooting even taken place,

I don’t believe that nobody died.
But I sorta believe that this story might be bigger than they let on. It’s a damn shame.

I hope to God that it’s not like that, because it literally destroyed me when I heard.
I just don’t really know what to think anymore.

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Alex (345) (@staylucky) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

“The psychopaths in power have absolutely no compunction about using state terrorism, in this case organising the deliberate massacre of innocent children, to control people. In effect, this is little different from what the U.S. government calls counter-insurgency or counter-terrorism in foreign countries, where it attacks innocent civilians to create the impression that they were killed by ‘communists’, ‘terrorists’, ‘insurgents’ or ‘militants’, with the aim of generating public support for the illusion that the common people need a strong, ruthless government to protect them from the ‘evil-doers’. When the common people buy into this manipulation, the end result, as history shows repeatedly, is an overt and brutal police state.” – Niall Bradley from http://www.sott.net/article/254873-Sandy-Hook-massacre-Official-story-spins-out-of-control#

I was very suspicious when the Denver shootings went down. For a pretty average kid, the bomb squad said they were absolutely puzzled at the sophistication of the booby traps they had to defuse at his apartment after the shooting. All that military gear, so much complexity. Plus his background was very uncharacteristic with what went down. But I guess all that stuff is negotiable, to be fair.

Then there is Sandy Hook, where so much stuff simply does not add up. I’d suggest that this isn’t about gun control, but using the lie of a “democracy” to allow the people into subconsciously electing their own police state.

I think people are often afraid to believe in, or take conspiracy theories seriously because they’re afraid of being lumped in with bat-shit crazy hippies that are married to the 50 cats they own who drink their own piss. You’re not insane for questioning your government. You’re insane if you don’t.

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