Sandy Hook Hoax?

Taylor (@chabalamp) 9 years, 4 months ago

Someone sent me this just now

http://www.sandyhookhoax.com/

I’m not sure how I feel about this, seeing as how I’m very skeptical,
but if this were true, I wouldn’t be surprised.

Any opinions?

January 8, 2013 at 1:14 am
Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@staylucky, that last part hit the nail on the head for me. I felt afraid to buy into this but I just think there’s something seriously wrong with all these shootings.

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TravisAD (53) (@travisad) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@chabalamp, It is definitely possible. This is one reason I don’t have an opinion for either or. The situation could have been completely real. However, there are much much too many discrepancies for me to believe that it happened the way it’s been reported.

However, there isn’t enough proof to say that it wasn’t the way it was reported. There are a lot of factors people may not be taking into account. However, there are discrepancies that others aren’t taking into account.

This is one reason that bugs me that we don’t have a transparent government. I know I know, it would never work. However, I’m sure there are brilliant minds out there that could find a way to make a semi-transparent government. That would make it so after so long, or after information is no longer pertinent to any open cases that the information becomes available for everyone to be able to review.

It’s sad that we have to question a sad situation like this. It’s sad to even think that it could have been set up by our own government. It’s sickening thinking the world could be that dark. However, the world will continue to be that dark in locations unless there are people that dare to stand up against the criticism and look at everything. Even if those looking are wrong, at least they are looking for the good of the people.

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KevinSG (105) (@flyingrhino) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

I remember I heard someone say that maybe the government is just as dumb as us, but lets us create the conspiracy theories so we assume the government is actually smart and knows what it’s doing.

I find that quite humorous.

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Anonymous (1) (@) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@chabalamp, can’t just make it happen over night, I believe this plan was set into motion 100 years ago and the rich are just biding their time…..Obama and bush were/are slowly changing our constitution…..half of the bill of rights have been changed already

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Tom (187) (@scott3600) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@chabalamp, Watch this video, it disproves the Sandy Hook conspiracy and shows it to be plain stupid. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snViuRNT5Jk

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Phil (83) (@urbanuncia) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

It’s fucking disappointing, really. People are so quick to make judgements, but in the end it’s all just speculation.

So class, what have we learned today?

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Tom (187) (@scott3600) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@urbanuncia, I’ve learned there are some ignorant people in this world who don’t take advantage of living in the 21st century where we can disprove these dumb conspiracy theories by simply using Google.

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Matt (16) (@irvzilla) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

not saying i believe in the conspiracy, but is there any explanation for the dad laughing before the press conference then getting all emotional on the drop of a hat. Also whats the deal with that girl in the dress thats in pics after the shooting. Have they been disproven?

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Phil (83) (@urbanuncia) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@travisad, But that’s the only way a government will work, IMO. If the government were fully transparent it would give the public a real understanding of the issues the government is facing and would more readily help out. Instead there is too much confusion and too many chances for corruption. It’s ridiculous to think that we elect people (politicians) into positions of power over us, and then demonize their actions when they mess up. “Oh Reagan was such a terrible president…” Well why did you vote for him then? If you see that the system is broke, take action to fix it. Oh lawd.

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TravisAD (53) (@travisad) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@urbanuncia, lol too true man.

I just remember back in (I believe, not 100% positive) Roman time where they had everything set up that the vox populi decided on important shit. Rather than the select few elected into a position over us.

There needs to be some serious reforms to make it so the government isn’t all jacked up. Not to mention something needs to be done to limit those in office so they can’t overstep their jurisdiction or overstep their power.

Just a thought.

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Matthew (16) (@tweibaby) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

What I want to know is, why is it that there are no major shooting since Virginia Tech, then there was the shooting at that mosque that stirred up gun control debate, then in rapid succession, Aurora, that mall shooting, Sandy Hook, this kid who just shot his family and was going to shoot up a Walmart… And several others that were minor gun related incidences inbetween? How the hell can all these things keep happening so quickley, when they are generally spread out much more?

I dont think we need to take any guns away, just have the universal background checks.. After all these shootings keep happening, wouldnt YOU want a gun?!?

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Phil (83) (@urbanuncia) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@tweibaby, there is a Ted talk right here http://www.ted.com/talks/rachel_botsman_the_currency_of_the_new_economy_is_trust.html
that I think goes hand in hand with your idea of universal background checks.

“After all these shootings keep happening, wouldnt YOU want a gun?!?”
It’s funny you say that because that’s what the American public is thinking right now. In fact, I saw a news broadcast last week immediately after Obama signed the bill limiting ammunition magazines (among other things) of people lined OUT THE DOOR at gun stores: stocking up on guns and ammo. But what happens when the whole country is armed? Even if there are no citizens carrying AR-15s with 45 round drum magazines around, there is still fear in people’s eyes. How do we combat uncertainty?

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Matthew (16) (@tweibaby) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

@urbanuncia, This kind of sums up how I feel about it.. If you listen to his explanation..

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Phil (83) (@urbanuncia) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

OMG genius!

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Snips (7) (@snips420) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

im not really into politics, i wrote in ron paul, but i was doing some reading and 2012 had the most “mass” shootings since 1999..that is when Clinton was president..the last democratic president since Obama. probably a coincidence, but hey. Ya never know.

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BirdFlyingHigh (152) (@birdflyinghigh) 9 years, 4 months ago ago

I’m so glad someone else started this topic, this site is the perfect place for me to get my conspiracy-theorist on!

What would be the motives behind faking a shooting like Sandy Hook?

Eroding gun rights!

Who would want to erode gun rights? After all, who benefits from the populace having access to weapons?

The populace gains. The point of the 2nd amendment is that to be free, you have to on some level be able to protect yourself. If your protection is coming from another source, you are ENTIRELY dependent on them. If the government or some other shadowy power-that-be wanted to consolidate their power, the easiest way to do it would be to make everyone entirely dependent on them.

I’ve never been a guns-rights person before, but this entire incident has made me reconsider. Guns are power, and don’t we believe in power of the people?

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Mu (0) (@muthemonk) 9 years, 3 months ago ago

@birdflyinghigh, From a government standpoint I find the whole 2nd amendment/we need guns to protect us from the government argument completely irrelevant if not a distraction at least. First of all, it’s not like the weapons available for purchase by consumers would do much against domestic military intervention.

Take the Abrams M1 tank for example. It doesn’t matter if you have a Glock with infinite ammo, or a Bushmaster, etc. I mean, ownership of small arms may prevent civilians from attacking each other, but I find it hard to believe that paramilitary (or military) organizations equipped with modern weapons’ technology would be much dissuaded by the armed citizen.

In fact, mentioned above is the fact that a majority of Americans are senselessly buying as many weapons as possible. If anything, mass shootings and the gun control debate have produced more weapons and the fear that necessitates using those weapons against each other.

So, one conclusion could be that mass shootings, the media, and government policy could be aimed at limiting personal rights, even though the necessity to pursue many of those rights is somewhat manufactured.

Another conclusion is that there is a sort of psychological epidemic occurring in America, and it primarily revolves around our fear, and I would venture to say that the government isn’t excluded from this. Make of that what you will but I’d be more inclined to say that we oppress ourselves far more than the government by our responses – our innate fear and distrust of each other.

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wonderboy91 (4) (@wonderboy91) 9 years, 3 months ago ago

@chabalamp, I’ve been watching the news and I’m pretty shocked and intrigued at how everything is playing out. Almost as if everything that needs to happen is happening in order for the government to take away our guns. Shootings are being widely publicized. With that thing in LA going on which is “showing” the American people that it might not only be the crazys that will kill people with guns but it could be anyone even cops. It’s happening too perfectly think about it. Slowly but surely at this rate it’ll inevitably lead to a full on gun ban unless we act

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