Sandy Hook Video

brett k (@kimetime) 9 years ago

Have an open mind and check this out. Asks a lot of thought provoking questions. What are your thoughts and opinions

http://youtu.be/Wx9GxXYKx_8

January 15, 2013 at 11:07 am
Rob (75) (@facets) 9 years ago ago

Sorry, but this makes no sense.
The “second shooter” could have been an outdoorsman/homeless person who happened to be in the woods (hence the camo and jacket).
At 5:45 he purposefully keeps the music running so you can’t understand the examiner.
Not to mention, there are various assertions not backed by proof throughout the video.

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Alex (551) (@hollowinfinity) 9 years ago ago

Well I thought it was strange that Sandy Hooks was pointed out during the last Batman movie, and that was also the last major shooting that occurred. Its hard to ignore the possibility of a conspiracy, considering since this has happened gun laws everywhere have been changing and cracking down.
Even Mexico has a gun trade-in program going on where if you willingly hand over your weapons (right now) they will reimburse you with a laptop or tablet. This is the issue here, because most everyone in the world will hand over their rights for a few extra bucks or perks that work for them at the moment.

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Alex (141)M (@alexishungry) 9 years ago ago

WOW. That was very eye-opening. I always try analyze conspiracy videos (and the news too) logically, but this video had quite a few good pieces of evidence. I think much of it was fabricated by the news stations. All of them want to push some agenda and I don’t put it past them to hire actors for personal accounts, just to try to sway the public opinion. About government conspiracy in this, I don’t know. All of the facts do seem pretty fishy.

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Cody (472) (@versai) 9 years ago ago

@facets, Did you watch the whole video? That 5:45 portion with the medical examiner is just a teaser, later at 16:15 they spend a good amount of time on him playing his voice full volume.

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1.61803399 (247) (@drunkmonkmeth) 9 years ago ago

Most of it isn’t very convincing.. News stations are desperate for information and have inconsistencies in their coverage’s constantly. The other “shooters” to me sounds more like police arresting every person they saw in the area for questioning. It’s common place for the police to close off an area and grab and question everyone they see within a certain radius.

What bothers me most is how the presenter starts off trying to convince us that there were multiple shooters. Then goes to stay that the whole thing didn’t even happen.

I will admit the second half suggesting that it was all a hoax has a lot more ground to it.

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Eric (1,819)M (@blankey) 9 years ago ago

All this is really showing to me is that some people like getting attention and will lie to the news to get on the news. Also that the news is not that reliable and gets facts wrong all the time.

And perhaps these “actors” were hired by the news itself? And for this whole thing being staged due to entrances/exits being blocked and no kids, ambulances or anything? That is the only real part that seems fishy and actually looks almost staged..

Perhaps Sandy Hook was NOT as bad as it was apparently shown through the news? Perhaps they are trying to just throw their own agenda in there which is gun control? People with guns telling the people not to have guns? Hmm…

And the whole FEMA drills on 9/11, Sandy shooting, and the London bombings? Either a HUGE coincidence or I don’t know what. Not too sure why that would help them though?

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Chantel (0) (@mynameschantel) 9 years ago ago

Here’s a link that tries to disprove the Gene Rosen part of the conspiracy
http://usahitman.com/gene-rosen-actor-conspiracy-debunked/

Anyway, there were still some thought-provoking things in the video. Its just too coincidental to me that such a horrendous tragedy occurs in the midst of a proposed gun ban.

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I smell a steamy pile of bullshit. This video is so misleading on so many levels.

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Mosesonator (52) (@mosesonator) 9 years ago ago

So much disinfo in this thread…

I encourage each HEthen to inform themself on this topic, and to take fellow forum posters with a grain of salt.

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yoinkie (1,498)C (@yoinkie) 9 years ago ago

For the love of… I watched the video up until the point I realised it was a production of Infowars. For those that dont know, Infowars is run by a man named Alex Jones, who believes the following things: The Entire US government and all police forces are responsible for the 9/11 attacks, the NWO exists and will kill 80% of the world population this year to get their way, the United states has secret prisons in every city in which 10+ million Americans are being held because they are anti-gov., the BP oil spill was caused by the government to gain control and $…what else… Infowars also believe that American government is solely responsible for weather control purposely causing global warming, the Oklahoma city bombing, mass sterilization of the american people by putting controlling agents in all water sources… I really could go on about these fucked up nut jobs but I’d rather not. Did I watch the video? No, but im sure its more of the same utter garbage that man and his website throw out. Alex Jones and Infowars is just another piece of shit corporation that makes millions of dollars off the fears of the American people by throwing out crackpot conspiracies, then charging people to read more about them then buy books about them. He is the scum of the earth.

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Taylor (36) (@chabalamp) 9 years ago ago

Sandy Hook Hoax?

I posted about this and there were pretty interesting links if you’re interested.

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Mosesonator (52) (@mosesonator) 9 years ago ago

@yoinkie, you spend your entire post slandering Alex Jones, but contributed nothing to the discussion going on. Try again.

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Alex (141)M (@alexishungry) 9 years ago ago

@yoinkie, My ad-hominem senses are tingling…

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yoinkie (1,498)C (@yoinkie) 9 years ago ago

@mosesonator, Lets ignore your blatent disregard for the original posters questions(they asked for our opinions and thoughts. My opinion and thoughts dont matter because they dont agree with yours?) for the sake of argument.

If someone posted a youtube video of someone claiming mcdonalds is the best healthy food for you, would you then say the same thing to someone who stated the history of the mcdonald organization? Does the history of the organizations that post these videos mean nothing to you? Do they not maybe, by chance, give you an insight into the bias that they claim?

Moving on. Where would you like me to try again? Should we talk about the massive amount of editing done in this video that only puts the makers of the videos ideologies out there and edit outs the parts that dont? Would you like to talk about the large amount of misinformation that has already been debunked(you have internet and google, learn how to use it)? Or would you like to talk about the numerous claims by the video makers of how they KNOW how people in tragedies SHOULD react(ive had many tragedies and lost many people close to me. Each time I act differently, oddly, and against what most people would think I should act. Do you know why? Because death is completely a shock to humans, we dont KNOW how to act. We act in any way that will help us feel better. There is no god damn script like the video makers keep claiming. I lost my grandma who I was very close to and spent an entire day laughing at the good times we had, and just being a little insane, because the feelings were so foreign to me). What else would you like to talk about? The still photos they used, that were completely un-time related to the events that happened?

Seriously, tell me where you would like me to start trying. How about you start trying? All you have done in this thread is say that “there is so much misinfo in the thread. you people need to educate yourselves”. Its easy to say a couple of unrelated words to try to discredit others, right? Would you like to even try? How about start to discredit even one of the things I have mentioned without using the words, “Oh you dont know what you are talking about. You need to learn things”. And go.

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yoinkie (1,498)C (@yoinkie) 9 years ago ago

@alexishungry, same goes for you. Take a look at this when you get a chance.

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For an unlimited time offer, you too can buy one of the thousands of products that infowars has available for sale to you! Interested in their “9/11 was fake” claims? You can now buy the $119 documentary that explains it furthur! Want to let the world know you agree with their claims that OKC bombing was done by the govt? Buy the $19.95 tshirt that says so!

My ad-hominem senses are tingling towards you slightly, sir. You and the poster above you need to learn a valuable life lesson: No matter what information is presented to you, LEARN about the origin of the people giving you this information. Do you guys follow the media blindly? You realize that bias exists in every form of information right? If CNN tells you a story, do you believe it fully without knowing the history of CNN? Shame on you if you do.

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BriGuy (106) (@iambrian) 9 years ago ago

I found this video interesting…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EEKqcRELz4

and this one….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3DR6zTVVFY

The photos of the little girl with President Obama after the shooting, when she is one of the claimed victims kind of sparked my attention. Also the little girls father when interviewed was laughing at first and obviously an actor. Many other aspects raise questions. It’s very interesting…

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Alex (141)M (@alexishungry) 9 years ago ago

@yoinkie, You’re only reinforcing what I said. “An ad hominem (Latin for “to the man”), short for argumentum ad hominem, is an argument made personally against an opponent instead of against their argument.” You made no comment about the actual video that this discussion is about, and only attacked the creators of the video. You said yourself that you didn’t even watch it! I’m aware that Infowars is a group of conspiracy freaks. But I still watched the video and analyzed the points and evidence they had to give.

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VernalSoul (598) (@vernalsoul) 9 years ago ago

@kimetime, Watched this yesterday, and there’s a lot of it that could have been bullshitted. Especially with how many things it tells you to look into yourself, they give just enough that most people won’t look it up but will believe that small statement made (ie the parents being in some type of acting group). I did not look them up myself because I did not find the video convincing enough to look further into it as a conspiracy.
There is ONE thing that really jumped out at me, that I remember actually being like “Wait, that doesn’t make sense” when i heard about it, but then forgot about it in all the hubbub that happened in the days following. The fact that there were 26 fatally wounded, and only 1 (that i didn’t hear about at the time?) injured. That just doesn’t happen…….maybe if he’d lined them up and had a straight shot at each head or something, but that is not how it has been reported. There is just no way in hell a guy shooting into groups of children got 26 fatal shots and no grazines/gun shot wounds/etc. like…seriously. ha.
So i’m not saying I don’t completely discount that there might be more behind it, but i just did not find this video to be a trustworthy source of information.

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Josh (2) (@joshbaber) 9 years ago ago

The thing that struck me the most in that video was the whole bit about FEMA drills. If this part is true, it really raises suspicion as to whether or not there is a connection. Also, I just wish mainstream news would get ALL their ducks in a row before ever reporting something of this scale to the masses, just to say “we had this story first” and instead state facts, without many mistakes or contradictions.

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KevinSG (105) (@flyingrhino) 9 years ago ago

A lot of the so called bullshit reports in the beginning/during the tragedy could simply be due to human error caused by many things. Mass panic/confusion/misinformation/ etc. The facebook pages do come into question, though, like the one for the teacher that hid her kids in the closet made a MONTH before the incident occurred.

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dr. hamsa (42) (@s7221919) 9 years ago ago

You are asking the wrong questions. You don’t see the broader view.

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