Science and Spirituality

Mason Reynolds (@masonreynolds79) 8 years, 7 months ago

I was just thinking about the issue of science and spirituality… Personally, I’m of two minds on the whole issue. On one hand, the scientific-minded side of me finds it intuitively pleasing that capturing the entirety of someone’s being should be possible via physical means, e.g., by identifying the entire quantum state of a person. I’m also curious as to the possibility that there are yet undiscovered facets of our physical world that may affect our being. For instance, as you may have read, string theory in physics suggests that there are 9 or 10 dimensions, rather than just the 4 we perceive in our everyday life. Could there possibly be some information about our reality tucked away in these (yet unproven) extra dimensions? On the other hand, as a Catholic, I believe that theres a certain je ne sais quois that eludes physical description. After all, if I believe that this body is just a wrapper of sorts and that we’ll be reborn into new, perfect existence….then the should really conveys all the relevant information about “me,” however one defines that. For Example, If I lose a limb (God Forbid), my quantum state has drastically changed, even so far as to affect how my brain processes information, I’d still say im the same person at my core, so there has to be a limit to which our physical incarnation defines us.

What are your thoughts?

May 7, 2013 at 1:54 pm
Andrew Wylde (9) (@bewylde) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

If you haven’t learned about Fourier transforms this would be a good time to. I personally feel that each if these ten dimensions has a wave that is associated with it that get less and less obvious as you get higher in dimension. The larger the dimension the less tangible the wave is to our “physical” being and more tangible to our”spiritual” being. Relating this to my first statement, Fourier series could be a way of mathematically describing the amplitude of these dimensions in our percievable reality. Quantum theory is quite interesting and the implications it has on the way we understand consciousness.

As for the whole being born into a new perfect life, i like to think of that as a re-expression of my molecular make up spontaneously being formed in another part of our infinte universe. After all we are just clouds of quantum gas floating around the universe interacting with other clouds forming the physical realitythat we all have grown to know and “understand.”@masonreynolds79, this is what i would say to you but it may or may not make sense, if you need clarification please ask.

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Shu (32) (@shupac) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@masonreynolds79, this is a topic that has been on my mind for a while. Let me propose the following thought experiment:

I propose that man’s purpose is to become God and that there are two paths to do so: science & spirituality

Through science, man has trying to become God through control–control of our habitat, food, other species, etc. Now rapid development of genomics and other sciences will soon give man the ability to extend his lifespan, controlling life and death.

Through spirituality, man becomes closer to God (if you don’t like God, replace with Universe) by surrendering to his will. By surrendering, we relinquish our control in the faith that God will provide take care of us and actually give us a greater destiny than anything we could’ve imagined.

In my opinion, control is the path most of our society is built around but I don’t think it’s sustainable. Every “advancement” we create seems to create other problems. Look at GMO food and nuclear weapons. However I think man has a chance to sort out these problems but it will require an evolved consciousness.

So what is an evolved consciousness? Well that’s what HE is all about, right? We meditate, we transcend, we become enlightened, we become closer to God.

Well let me remind you of one thing: the first thing you learn in meditation is to let go. Fundamentally, meditation teaches you to let go of control and to accept what is, what has been, and what will be.

That IS putting your faith in God.

So to respond to your original points, I believe truth lies in both science and spirituality. However the difference is in why you’re seeking it. Do you seek it to use for your own control or to strengthen your belief in something greater and carry out the will of God?

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Anonymous (2,833) (@) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@masonreynolds79,
Science is here ——>

Spirituality is
<------ there We are --><--

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There_Is_No_Box (60) (@thereisnobox) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

What this world has yet to realize is that science is nothing more than the discovery and explanation of what is spiritual…God is the Universe, God is life, God is love.

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Taylor (152) (@taysand) 8 years, 7 months ago ago

@thereisnobox, well put.


@masonreynolds79
, im glad you posted this. ive been at crossroads lately with this subject. i’m finding it difficult to find an equal balance between them because most of the sources of information i find to learn more about each side proposes strict polar opposite ideas and explanations. but i agree with you, its fanscinating to have pinpointed the world around us to the molecular makeup and all that good science stuff, but i cant escape the feeling of the universe carrying me along a specific path. every small coincidence i encounter in my life i cant help but feel like it was suppose to happen and that science just cant find an answer as to why. i wonder how much science has yet to discover compared to what we already know (or think we know). the future is looking brighter and brighter as far as new knowledge goes! society onthe other hand, is a whole different story. great post.

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