Sensitivity and Desensitization

Mike Wuest (@mikeyw829) 8 years, 3 months ago

What it means to be sensitive to me is the ability to consciously feel a sickness that exists in all humans, most of which have no idea that they’re even in pain.

It’s almost like for most people, a veil exists between their conscious mind and the terror in their subconscious, preventing them from experiencing all the pain and pleasure. This allows them to go about their days in a small box of false security and comfort, oblivious to the immensity of their experience in the world. They can filter out those things that don’t fit into their well defined box.

But the thing is, these are the people who are making the decisions in our current world. Numb, desensitized people who don’t know shit about anything that matters. They’re the type that are just looking to get fucked, by any means. They go to work, come home, and seek out any little scraps of pleasure they can find. And then repeat the process until they die. I would say that the craziest and most insane people in our society are the ones that are deemed “well-adjusted”.

If you’ve always been told (indirectly for the most part, and sometimes directly) that you’re the one with the problem, that you’re defective and need to be fixed, you should feel extremely proud. You should realize that the people telling you these things also feel the way you do, they just are oblivious to it. They don’t know it’s there under the surface.

For some reason they have a very heavy veil over their eyes. And in a way I feel bad for them, despite how self-destructive and destructive of the world in general they are. Because they’re suffering worse than the people who actually feel their pain. And they don’t experience any pleasure either. Only recently have I begun to see this. I can see it in their faces, in their escapist behaviors, and in the facades they put up that they mistake for reality.

It’s almost like on a subconscious level, these people know that to feel means to be real. They don’t like reality. And if they started feeling, their illusion would come to an end. So they attempt to desensitize everyone around them as well, and convince them that feeling things is wrong. It’s not OK to feel or express anything negative or extreme. If you do, you have a problem. But the problem with that is then you don’t feel anything positive either. The euporia of simply existing. That’s the literal BACKWARDS thinking that desensitization produces. And if evil exists, I think that’s what it is.

September 6, 2013 at 3:04 pm
Anonymous (328) (@) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

5 star post. :]

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iXfactor (115) (@Xtine) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Nice one. I like the thing about evil is a desensitized human at the end.

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LVX (297) (@Vovinawol) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

Since Evil is live spelled backwards then it fits lol! Yay!

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Sam (11) (@Emerald.Healer) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

I definitely agree with you on this one @mikeyw829. I had desensitized myself years ago and now that I’ve evolved through spiritual awakening and found myself, I have gotten in touch with my sensitivity and it is truly awesome. I look back and think about how extremely messed up I was in many ways and how I just want to help those who are lost as I once was. I’ve felt the extremes of both being insensitive, and sensitive, and now that I’ve found balance I realize that this is something extremely important to have in order to live a truly fulfilling life. Which is why as a healer, I am going to spend as much time as I can guiding as many people as I can into balance and beyond. How else are these people to change? As the ones who recognize the problem, we should try our best to fix it.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 3 months ago ago

@mikeyw829, Love this post. They hate reality to the point they’ll deny their own existence and everything exposing it will be taken as cynical, intrusive, inappropriate and harmful. That’s what evil is, indeed. It’s not evil to feel.

That’s why I insult them, otherwise they’ll hesitate or not make any decision at all.

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Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@emerald-healer, I can relate. I’ve experienced both extremes of the spectrum as well. Most people never experience the really dark side of it, so they have no motivation to change.

Just to clarify though, in terms of sensitivity, I don’t mean being really overly emotional and crying all the time. So I don’t think that, in the way I defined it, you can’t be overly sensitive. You can be overly emotional though. But there’s a difference. I don’t think there is a balance to be made between sensitivity and insensitivity, because my idea of it has nothing to do with emotional expression. It has more to do with perceptiveness and awareness, and you can never have enough of that.

Glad to see you found a purpose!


@beyond
, Yeah. the lengths people will go to in order to validate their own delusions is crazy.

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Viner Cent (50) (@Viner-Cent) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Somehow the posts here make me wanting to make “Normal is boring” to my life mantra. Awesome post. I still am in the “fog” and slowly shovel it out of my face. Allthoigh it is deadly to become sensitive in my surrounding, being numbed up against insults and brute force is the ojly way to stay halfy sain in here.

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Sam (11) (@Emerald.Healer) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@mikeyw829, Yeah, I know what you’re talking about, I just used the term “insensitive” because it is the opposite of “sensitive”. I wasn’t talking about just being emotional and crying, because that could be and is often due to lack of awareness. I believe you can be overly sensitive though. By being sensitive, you are more perceptible and aware of the emotion you feel, so by being overly sensitive, your emotions can become overwhelming. Sensitivity and emotion come hand-in-hand, and emotion dictates the way you truly perceive things, not your thought process. Sensitivity can’t be applied without the recognition that it is tied to emotion, something that is quite obvious. You are simply talking about awareness as a thought process if you do not include emotion. These things are all connected to each other, but one can have a high sense of awareness in your thought process, and CHOOSE to not be sensitive, kind of like a sociopath. Thoughts and feelings are two different things. In the way you defined sensitivity, it doesn’t make sense. Although, the way you talk about it does make sense, like when you talk about “numb, desensitized people”. By adding the word “numb”, you are accepting the fact they directly choose to block out their emotions, and you continued to talk about the topic in that sense. Why exclude emotion from the topic when, in order to truly perceive, it is needed in connection with sensitivity and thought process? There’s a reason we have emotion. Taking this into account, there is then the sense that balance is needed in order to properly have control, while still expanding your awareness. Balance is needed in everything.

Also, I don’t like the fact that you say one should feel extreme pride if they have been told they are the problem and such, because they very well may be the problem. How can you know that they aren’t the problem? At this point you’re just making assumptions. Them being told depends on who they are being told by. Not everyone is desensitized.

No one is oblivious to it. They feel it, they just choose to ignore it, and by ignoring it for a long time, it becomes the norm to the point where they don’t deliberately ignore it anymore, it just becomes a part of the subconscious, but they ALWAYS feel it. They do feel negative things, and they do feel positive things like pleasure, they just experience them to a greatly lesser degree, and sometimes to the point where they think they don’t feel anything, but in reality they do, they just can’t perceive it consciously, which in the case of negative feelings, causes them to become frustrated but they don’t even know why they are frustrated. It’s still very sad, but you can’t go to the extreme of saying they don’t FEEL, because only VERY few people have that kind of problem.

Also I don’t think it’s that they don’t experience the dark side of it, but they don’t realize they are experiencing it and so don’t see it as a big problem. If you go back to a time where you now realize you were experiencing it, you will probably definitely remember believing that it wasn’t a very big problem, because that’s just “how the world worked”, because “there’s just so much darkness in the world, that it’s just normal”, basically. That’s basically what everyone thinks when they are in that state.

I think you are gaining a good understanding of it, which is GREAT btw so props to you man, but you don’t have it down fully, not to say that I don’t necessarily have it down fully either, though I have been aware of it for quite some time. You said yourself that you have only recently begun to become aware of this, so it’s completely understandable to not have a more clear understanding of it, and if you think you do, you have much more to learn. But otherwise, great job man :) it’s good to see people becoming more aware of the problem, for if there is one, others will come.

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Sam (11) (@Emerald.Healer) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@viner-cent, I get that. Sometimes you HAVE to become desensitized to protect yourself from extreme damage, which is what happened to me. Sometimes you HAVE to stop giving a fuck for awhile, so then later you can start fresh again and develop yourself much farther and easier than you could if you are heavily damaged due to things that happened to you.


@mikeyw829
, This is something to be taken into account in situations as well. Sometimes it’s just a defense mechanism gone wrong, so it may not be entirely that person’s fault. Still sad, just misunderstood. @beyond, @vovinawol, @xtine,

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@emerald-healer, What if I just throw out there the fact that I love to desensitize my loved ones so they’re more able to cope with life’s discrepancies, because I love them and don’t give a fuck if they’ll hate me for it?

Sometimes it’s not a defense mechanism in its modern understanding, it’s a defense encouragement, but never a mechanism.

We’re not fucking robots.

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Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@emerald-healer, I think there is just a misunderstanding based on phrasing and wording, not so much my or your lack of “getting it” (although there is always more to understand, and no static viewpoint is ever correct). This stuff is actually pretty basic, it’s nothing complex or hard to understand if you have any critical thinking skills. But a lot of things that seem self-evident often times go overlooked or ignored by many people. Can’t really respond in depth right now though.

“Also, I don’t like the fact that you say one should feel extreme pride…”

-I was talking about this within a specific context. If you’re on this site, it has a good chance of pertaining to you.

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Sam (11) (@Emerald.Healer) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@beyond, Can you expand on the “defense encouragement” part? Also, I don’t get why you said “sometimes it’s not a defense mechanism in its modern understanding…but never a mechanism”

But are you saying someone would damage another in great ways on purpose in order to make them stronger? That’s not what I was talking about at all, if so. I meant sometimes a person is in a mostly negative situation that is caused by someone who is also damaged, thus making the “damager” have much less self control and have much less consideration for the people around them, including their loved ones. Yeah it’s that person’s fault for making the situation bad, but it’s not entirely their fault because they may be dealing with deep-set pain and anguish that they do not understand simply because they don’t have the skills necessary to recognize much less fix the problem themselves, and they don’t know how to treat people so they don’t even know how to ask for help. The “Damage-ee” then takes absorbs much of the negativity output of the “Damager” and becomes damaged themselves, unless they use desensitization to SOME extent as a defense mechanism(which is a term and tangible thing recognized by many abroad, not known as robotic in nature, but human, as in it’s a normal psychological response to protect oneself) to stay in control for the most part. It’s a cycle.
For example, I can look back through my family and see pain spread through generations, leading up to my immediate family and causing the “Damage-ee” to become the “Damager” which would have created another future “damager”, which in fact would have been me had I not used desensitization to block damage from reaching my core. Of course I’m still slightly damaged but I’m smart enough to figure out my problems which I am now working and definitely getting through with great results :). Had things not happened the way they did, and had I not done what I did, I would not have been who I am today, and I most likely would have continued the cycle of really fucked up pain in my family, which would have sucked. Yes, it ultimately would have been my fault, but if I, like so *many* others around the world, had not had the tools to take care of it, it would be understandable to a reasonable extent I’d say. The people who hurt don’t really wish to hurt, they’re just so FUCKED up they don’t know what the fuck they’re doing, so when given the question, can you really blame them? I’d say yes and no. My father did terrible things years ago, but I know he has experienced even worse things, so really at this point I’m just worried about him making it okay. I know he loves me and regrets everything he did at his core, and would never have done it had he been in a normal state. You can’t just say people do it on purpose to make others more able to “cope” with life’s discrepancies, if that’s what you think I was trying to say. Sometimes things just play out like that because they are *supposed* to be a part of someone’s life. I believe I was supposed to experience those things because it made me stronger and and this way I am able to break the cycle, as well as help those with what I’ve learned. I also have friends with very similar experiences.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@emerald-healer, That’s a little long. I’m gonna play a song and then read it, then reply.

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Sam (11) (@Emerald.Healer) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@mikeyw829, I agree with you when you say that no static viewpoint can be correct, because things usually take a much broader understanding to really get it. Yes this may be fairly easy to see if you just open your eyes and really look around, but in order to really get it and why it happens, you have to go much deeper and that would require a more advanced use of critical thinking skills. It takes time to really “get” anything.

Which parts do you think I may be misunderstanding then? I would like to know so that way we don’t drag on about something that may not even be relevant to what I thought you were trying to say lol. No point in that right?

And also, could you help me to understand what you meant when you said people should be proud? Just trying to understand better so I can possibly agree with you rather than try to refute your point based on what I perceived.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

“But are you saying someone would damage another in great ways on purpose in order to make them stronger?” – Yes. And no. I’m saying to have an understanding of the illusion of damage.

I’ve read what you’re implying, but seriously, acknowledging bullshit pain doesn’t make you a healer. It makes you tell people they need healing, and they believe it.

So, seriously. What are you talking about?

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Sam (11) (@Emerald.Healer) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@beyond, Take your time man lol do what you gotta do. I’m gonna eat some delicious cheesecake while I wait for your response. That way we will both be doing something awesome.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

That’s the fucking thing. Some people don’t believe they’re damaged, they use another word – experience.

I have to say, some are hypocrites. Those that aren’t are the ones I admire.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@emerald-healer, I thought you’re a healer, not a self-indulgent pussy.

Ahh… I’m lying, you know. It’s obvious you are

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Sam (11) (@Emerald.Healer) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

Can you help me understand the illusion of damage then?

And what do you mean “implying”? I wasn’t trying to imply anything.

I don’t acknowledge bullshit pain lol I only ever deal with legitimate issues. I don’t “tell” people when they need healing, I let them recognize it themselves and then they come to me, I am always there for them. You can’t help someone who doesn’t want help, they have to recognize their problems as problems and want the help. I’m there for them when they need me, not when they don’t. I’d just be wasting time and keeping focus off the things that would be important. Why did this even become a point in your argument? I don’t understand why this is relevant to the topic at hand lol sorry

And what do you mean “what are you talking about”? Lol I just explained the rest of my argument on the topic I thought we were both pretty clear on.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@emerald-healer, Hey, I’m glad I doubt you, you replied magnificently. And you remind me of someone.

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Sam (11) (@Emerald.Healer) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@beyond, Okay. Why did you turn all hostile man? I used the word experience because that’s what happens. You experience things. I’m not saying I am an extremely damaged individual, though everyone is damaged to some extent which is why I said I was only slightly damaged. Plus, you don’t know me, or what my life has been like.

And please help me understand how I’m acting like a self-indulgent pussy lol I’m really not trying to give a bad impression like that. I thought we were just talking about a topic and giving our respective views? You know, like rational, sensible people?

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@emerald-healer, I read between the lines. I apologize I see you as a pussy by the way you talk.

I agree everyone is damaged and this isn’t emphasized as it should be.

Why did I turn hostile… because it hurts when there’s no one telling the whole story. I’m weird. I don’t know. Don’t mind me.

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Sam (11) (@Emerald.Healer) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@beyond, Yeah I assumed you were thinking I’m a pussy based on what you think is going on, but what exactly gave you that impression? Look dude, I really am not trying to offend you or make an enemy of you in any way. You seem intelligent and like a genuine person who does honestly care about legitimate issues, and I’m the same way. I’m really not a pussy, although I will admit I am self-indulgent in some ways at times, but I REALLY try to keep that under control. Anyway, If you want someone to tell the whole story, why don’t you help and try to do it so it can be brought to light? Chances are I’ll agree with you on whatever it is as long as it’s genuinely truthful.

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Anonymous (2,654) (@) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@emerald-healer, I… don’t know what not being real is. I’m sorry if I offended you, and I’m sorry if I offend you again.

I can help, but I have a lot of fucking shit to deal with already and… ok, I hate excuses even if they’re rational.

Well,

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Sam (11) (@Emerald.Healer) 8 years, 2 months ago ago

@beyond, Why do you think I’m being fake? I hate it when people are fake dude, HATE it. Why the hell would I act fake? I can’t even pretend to act like I like someone or I’m in a good mood, because I only ever try to be “real”. How would I even act fake in this situation? Ohhhh you think I’m being fake when I say I’m a healer?
Why the fuck would I lie about that? That’s my fucking life man. I’m on that real shit till the day I die, and beyond. Fuck that fake bullshit. Frankly, I don’t give a damn if you believe me or not because I’m still going to live my life the way I was meant to, and NO ONE will deter me. Still, I would like you to understand that I would never do some bullshit like that. That’s kind of fucked up for someone to lie about something that big, and I’m not like that.

And, that’s an interesting video to use. Are you saying that basically a lot of pain is felt in the mind and can be controlled, or that it can’t be controlled, seeing that the song is about his panic attacks? I’m not really sure what to take from it, so can you explain?

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