Should I take a Qigong & Tai Chi class?

Zane (@albinomongoose) 8 years, 1 month ago

I’ve been considering signing up for such a course, but I don’t know that much about these practices (enough for them to intrigue me greatly, though) and I don’t want to waste my money. I’m located in Seattle and have been researching different schools.

Are Qigong and/or Tai Chi practices something you need an instructor to learn? Or am I better off just figuring them out myself? They seem like very nuanced, delicate arts which are better learned from a master.

My main motivation is the cultivation of focus, energy, self-control, and health. If you have any experience with these subjects I’d appreciate advice.

October 23, 2013 at 4:13 pm
ZenCowboy (179) (@zencowboy) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@albinomongoose, you need a master.
To at least teach you correct technique, context and critique you as you learn.
Eventually you will be able to practice these disciplines on your own.
But initially, face to face learning with a master is the right way to go.

Zane (89) (@albinomongoose) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@zencowboy, That’s what I’ve been thinking. Any advice on finding a master?
I’m thinking about this school because it’s close by:

Nick (12) (@iloveyou) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

I recommend it. I took a class at my college for tai-chi to try it out & I don’t regret it at all. Having the right teacher plays a huge role as well. My sifu told me that there’s mimicking the moves and doing them, then there is actually preforming the moves and flowing with them.

Some days were hard but worth it, while others we’re simple. All in all I hope you keep an open mind and test the waters with it. Good luck & have a nice day!

jjj (32) (@crackedout6pack) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@albinomongoose, Have you read any books? I have a few books from Mantak Chia and to be honest I really enjoy them. If you do read them however, you will be filled with a huge desire to do them.
I have got to a stage where I can feel and move, but it’s more about staying on top of the amazing new levels of energy I am given. I worked 2 jobs sometimes 14 hours a day for 3 months and never had a single coffee. Completely abstained from wanking and never really felt the need, for at least 6/7months.
It really is amazing. You can live on much less food and sleep. Amazing.
I would definitely like to talk to a master now though to really get some advice on how to work the crazy energy levels you get.!!

jjj (32) (@crackedout6pack) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@iloveyou, tai chi sounds and is interesting but I;d definitely prefer doing it one to one.

Cpt (379) (@CptSleeze) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

OMG YES QI GONG. I would loveee if they taught it anywhere near me. And for some 1 on 1 teacher attention occasionally would be awesomeeee. Go for it man and stick with it, its friggin awesome. Its hard to teach myself just from youtube videos

ZenCowboy (179) (@zencowboy) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@albinomongoose, seems like a good place to start brother.

“The journey of a thousand steps, begins with just one”

Mike Wuest (510) (@mikeyw829) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@albinomongoose, It’s not necessary. It would probably facilitate things for you, but I don’t know since I’ve never done Tai Chi or Chi Kung. But I do feel that energy these disciplines deal with. Those are just two of an endless number of methods for strengthening it.

Even Zen deals with this energy (they call it Ki). And zen is the way of no way, so you obviously don’t need to do Chi Kung or follow any structured path. I think for me I’m actually better off without methods and rules and all that stuff. But it’s up to the individual

Zane (89) (@albinomongoose) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@mikeyw829, That’s the other perspective that weighs in the back of my mind. I’m not looking to become an expert in any of these arts, I’m just trying to “feel (the) energy these disciplines deal with”, as you said. The question is, could I better harness it with better taught technique?

I’m always stuck between the Zen mindset of just letting things happen, and the Confucian mindset of pragmatic progress and improvement. I think don’t think I’ve graduated to the Zen style yet. I’m still playin’ life’s games, if you will, and perhaps a class will help me become a better player?

A pertinent quote from a pertinent fellow!

Zane (89) (@albinomongoose) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@crackedout6pack, Actually, Mantak Chia’s book “Taoist Secrets of Love” is primarily what inspired my interest in these sorts of practices. I’ve really been trying to stick with the exercises, like testicle breathing, and practice them everyday, but I get the feeling some of these ideas are very hard to learn solely through text. Not to mention, my self-discipline leaves something to be desired.

I was really interested to hear about your experience with semen retention too – it’s something I’ve been trying to master. Unfortunately, I just broke my longest streak yesterday. Really trying to control temptation and break habits. Very hard when you’re a twenty year old male in this hyper sexualized culture.

Hurty (5) (@Hurty) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

I recently started to practice Qi Gong.
Or a subversion of it called “Falun Gong”.
In this video here Falun Gong was recommended as a good way for beginners:

And I agree, becuase it’s relatively easy and you feel the energy with your hand like you are moving them through a charged electric field. That was kind of surprising for me at first :D

All you need to do is to watch a video and follow the instructions:

I didn’t want to do a local course, because in Germany QiGong is a hobby for the elderly :D
But my university has a course I’m going to join once I’m off the waitinglist.

jjj (32) (@crackedout6pack) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@albinomongoose, for real man. I’m pretty much the same age etc. It’s tough. I actually let myself cum today not even gunna lie. I had a couple signs and really felt it, so just went with it.
It’s easy to beat yourself up about the tiniest little slip up but (now, with a little HINDSIGHT) I think it’s actually a big part of the learning process. Also, it says quite a lot in the book that it’s cool, ejaculate every now and again. You still reap amazing benefits. Which is something I sort of ignored, greedily. So yeah, I think until you have mastered the whole thing, from moving the energy, knowing where is cool to store it, countering and balancing the yin/yang, it’s probably not wise to just keep bottling up more crazy energy inside.
I reckon taking it slow is the way forward. Give yourself credit for finding one of the most fundamentally awesome secrets of existence and keep it gradual!

If you wanna hear some of my ideas about it do message me. I’d like to hear about anything else you’ve noticed.
I’ve done Inner Smile, Six Healing Sounds, and sort of reading Iron Shirt but I’m not gunna get into that yet lol.

Alexandra (10) (@PostSynapseA) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

I am currently taking an acupuncture/traditional chinese medicine diploma at a canadian university. One of my required courses is a Qigong and Tai Chi course taught by a professor/master with 20 years of experience.
I knew almost nothing about either practice until this course.
I practice yoga and meditation almost everyday and I have found improvement in my health and in my state of mind since I started the courses.
Personally, they give me more tools on how to be aware of my body and my energy.
Particularly we were also instructed on how to keep our Qi inside instead of losing it to the environment and feeling drained.
I hope this helps. :) Let me know if you have any other questions.

W Kyle (1) (@wkyle) 8 years, 1 month ago ago

@albinomongoose, I too have been very interested in Qigong and Tai Chi for some time now and dealing with similar questions. I’ve decided that personal instruction is necessary, at least for a successful beginning. I’ve been slowly reading one resource: Kenneth Cohen’s “The Way of Qigong”.
The book is a great resource, but I’ve come to see a need for another perspective and someone who can assist in turning the abstract to the concrete. I found this website recently in my search for a local instructor, perhaps it can help you find someone that can offer what you’re looking for.
Good luck and thanks for starting this discussion!

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