Hey fellow HEthens,
I was curious about something. I know that most of us are friends with Mary Jay. I was curious how many of you smoke MJ out of a water pipe/bong?
Also, how many of you have an ice catch, compared to how many people don’t.
And last but not least, how many of you use your ice catch? Or would use it if you had one?
Thanks for your help guys. I’m just curious about a few things :)
i go w the water pipe, i dont think any of the other way to smoke are comparable – its just really smooth, less harsh on the lungs (vaporizers dont get me that satisfaction in the same way)
dont really care about ice catchers that much, but a clean water pipe is key to me – glass is especially good, i go for function over design – straight shooter is ideal
In the only legit study available on the issue, it was concluded bongs filter out more THC than tar, etc., so it’s actually better to just use a pipe. After vaporizers, they concluded joints were the healthiest way.
Surprising, and unfortunate. I always thought using the most intricate bong would pay dividends, but alas…
I mean the study really isn’t that necessary for proving that vaping is better. All it takes is knowing that the bad crap in cannabis needs a significantly higher temperature to release these toxins and crap from the the plant. THC can be released at a much lower temperature, so as long as you use a regulated source of heat (ex. vaporizer w/ a temp. control option) you will be able to insure that you are releasing all of the THC with none of the carcinogens.
This is why vaping is both 100% healthy and releases a noticeably different amount of the THC from the plant compared to simply letting loose on the plant with an open, unregulated flame.
I have a water pipe with a single dome perc in it. I sometime load it with ice, depending on my mood.
This is rather odd but has anyone ever used boiling/ hot water in theres? If not recommend you at least try it. While it sounds weird and nasty it actually feels really soothing on the lungs- not sure if it’s better or worse for you, but hey it’s an interesting experience.
And I’m a strong believer that potency goes vape -> bong -> pipe -> joint. Or at least that’s what i’ve experienced.
@iluvdamusic, Thanks for your info.
I was trying to release an invention but it seems that the invention would in a sense, be useless. A lot of people that have an ice catch don’t even use it.
I love having ice in mine so I decided to make an ice catch for my bong and so many of my friends liked it I decided to try and release an actual invention. It got some good attention for a while there but it’s really died down and not many regular smokers seem interested in it.
Meh, oh well. No harm no foul.
“Vapes definitely are the best choice if you want zero health adversities and much more THC. Every other method which involves combustion using a flame is both really inefficient and also very unhealthy”
@lytning91, I will have to disagree with this statement. Cooking with mj or making brownies is definitely the best choice for health reasons. Its also the most efficient way to get high. You get more thc and the high lasts much longer. Although vaping is a lot better for you than taking a bong hit, you are still inhaling chemicals. The only health adversities of brownies that I can think of is that its high on sugar/fat. However, if done right you only need one.
My suggestion for all of you that wants to make brownies, use coconut oil. Its has the highest fat content and study has shown that it has health benefits. Win/win situation.
@1love, There is, literally, nothing to disagree with. It has already been proven that vaping i 100% safe and releases none of the harmful plant bits that other methods give off.
Edibles to vaping is apples and oranges, my friend. Obviously extracting the THC from the plant by dissolving it into butter or whatever is going to not release those carcinogens because it’s not being combusted. In terms of inhaling THC via a cannabis plant, the best option is vaping. I would even say that THC extraction from vaping is more potent than edibles because the methods of synthesizing the THC aren’t that thorough and leave behind a lot of usable THC.
@lytning91, “there is, literally, nothing to disagree with”
“It has already been proven that vaping i 100% safe”
Its not like inhaling hot vapor into your lungs can still burn them and making you more prone to respiratory infections.
” I would even say that THC extraction from vaping is more potent than edibles because the methods of synthesizing the THC aren’t that thorough and leave behind a lot of usable THC.”
This applies to the people that have no idea how to truly make bake goods. I consider making brownies an art and if done right, in my opinion it will always yield more thc into your body.
@travisad, theres many ways to do this and can be found online but I will give you a brief step by step.
1.) get your materials, ( coconut oil with the most saturated fat, ganja, grinder, and non stick pan)
2.) this step is critical. Grind the weed as finely as you can, almost to a powder form.
3.) mix the bud with the coconut oil in the pan and heat it up on the stove until the oil starts bubbling.
4.) When the oil begins to bubble, decrease the heat until it stops. Dont let the oil bubble after this step.
5.) Heat the oil for 7 hours on low heat.
6.) let the oil cool, and use a extractor to get all the leaves out of your oil (you dont have to do this but the baked goods will taste a lot better)
7.) Mix the proper amount of oil according to your brownie mix and start baking. (assuming you are making brownies. Canna-oil can be used to make any food)
8.) eat and enjoy
@1love, I mean the respiratory thing seems fairly unlikely to me, personally. It’s water vapor…not like you’re burning your lungs. In fact, those I know who have been vaping a long time vape when they are stuffy to help clear their sinuses. And when has hot liquid ever been discouraged for clearing one’s self out and soothing pains and discomforts, especially when sick.
And no, so long as direct exposure of the THC-carrying resins to the heat isn’t happening you are going to see loss from cooking it in other substances.
You are talking about heating several materials to a temperature and diluting THC into another substance/substances, whereas I am talking about setting a heat element to the exact right temperature to start releasing THC and only THC from the plant and into the surrounding water vapor. The accuracy and specificity of vaping is far superior in method of extraction, and the overall concentration would be vastly higher, since you would be diluting the THC with butter or oil (things I would NOT want to be ingesting daily in order to get my THC), requiring more butter/oil to be consumed per dose of THC.
@lytning91, Its not water vapor, its THC vapor.. Inhaling anything other than atmosphere can lead to issues, however, its nowhere near tobacco… Plus it helps that the THC can neutralize alot of the issues caused by inhaling its smoke or vapor..
Also, water filters out THC the closer the temp is to freezing. I always smoke out of a bong, but I like to use hot water, when you combine that with a cube in the ice catch, its smooth, soothing, and will get you high before you even realize it..
Definitely recommend, ice in the ice catch, hot water in the bong, and snap hits of good bud..
@adamm0ss, Thanks bud.
I should try and complete the invention to get it released. TBH it’s been way more work then I ever thought. I’m getting near the end of it though and probably should try to get it out. That way whether it sells, or falls flat on it’s face, I will have tried my best.
I’m not sure if I can complete it at this time though. I don’t have the money to create a molding for the injection molding process, and am finding I have no time to complete the 3D models of the other discs.
Maybe I should get on the urbanman sleeping schedule lol. For reals though, I’ve been wanting to get on it for a while now, maybe this is the kick that I need to make the switch..
@ijesuschrist, lol too true. We never know 100% even when we Think we know 100% xD
@lytning91, Yay science!
@iluvdamusic, Yessir. Being poor I bought the only bong I could find that was in my price range. No ice catch though, so I made my own. People started noticing it and I got compliments from loads of different friends.
Therefore I decided to try and make it into something practical that could be purchased at a smoke shop.