Spam

 Zykanthos (@chodebalm) 4 years, 7 months ago

HE needs your help. Unfortunately, we get hit with spam bots more than we’d like. I’m away from my personal computer a lot during the day, so I don’t have the ability to monitor the site as much as I’d like and to ban the bots and delete the spam threads.

This is one of the reasons Jordan created the upvote/downvote option. This is where you all come into play. When you see a spam thread, please downvote it. If a thread or comment gets 5+ downvotes, it will be hidden.

We have implemented captcha and a few other anti-spam measures, but the bots keep getting through. So until further measures are taken, please help out the site by downvoting a spam thread or comment rather than just ignoring it. This will help maintain the integrity of the site and make HE look much better.

Thanks guys.

February 10, 2014 at 8:58 pm
YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

Nah, I like the bots. They just want to help us.

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Anonymous (481) (@) 4 years, 7 months ago ago
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emma (192) (@emmaclaire) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

You mean to tell me you HAVEN’T started making $69 an hour yet?! How could you ignore such a spectacular offer?

Seriously though, great idea and I will make sure to downvote when I see spam.

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Zykanthos (4,758)M (@chodebalm) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

Lolololol.

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Jordan Lejuwaan (23,421)A (@jordan) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

Hahaha :)

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Ray Butler (1,422)M (@trek79) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

Yeah, I kick a lot of spambot ass, I don’t remember it ever being this bad before. I was wondering if maybe one of the Mods has malware on their pc that they are unaware of because for the bots to fly under captcha and other measures sounds like it may be something deeper.

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Ray Butler (1,422)M (@trek79) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

It could be me, I’m fairly computer illiterate, I have Norton 360 and Utilities which I run regularly but I don’t know anything about stuff like this and I could be missing something.

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MonkeyZazu (1,866)M (@monkeyzazu) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

I don’t think it’s malware… Malware running locally on you guy’s computers wouldn’t effect someone creating an account and posting spam, but mainly your local software programs.

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Ray Butler (1,422)M (@trek79) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

My point exactly; I’m computer illiterate, malware is just a fancy word I heard that I don’t know what it means ;)

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MonkeyZazu (1,866)M (@monkeyzazu) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

It’s cool. I still regard you as being very wise in other areas. Everyone is computer savvy or illiterate at some level. My mom for example doesn’t even know how to turn off the computer; so yea.

Malware is any type of malicious software that can do harm to a system. Another way to look at it – fruit is to malware, as apples are to viruses. Apples, oranges, tomatoes, etc. are all fruit. Viruses, trojans, spyware, etc. are all malware.

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MonkeyZazu (1,866)M (@monkeyzazu) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

I’m a little web savvy and have actually been thinking of some ways that might help lesson the spam.

1. Block ip addresses of spam accounts

This could be done in a couple of ways. When users create their account, be sure to grab their IP when they do. That can easily be done with some php. Then once their account has been identified as malicious, you could add that IP to some kind of blacklist. So, when accounts are created you check them against that blacklist. If a match is found, put some kind of lock on that account until further notice.

To reinforce that method, you could place a cookie on their computer to check for blacklisting too. Maybe when they try to access the site, have the site check their browser for a “banishment cookie”, and if they have it, don’t allow them access to the site. This reinforces the previous method be insuring even if they spoof their IP, you still have some kind of way to check their ban status.

2. String recognition

This is a little more difficult to implement I think. Basically once a spam post is found, grab all the text from it and store it in some kind of “spam list”. Whenever users try to post anything new, use string recognition or maybe some regular expressions to check the contents of their post against the spam list. If enough words match up, automatically make that post hidden from the get go until further notice.

The difficult thing about this is its not just enough to use string recognition. You would need some kind of pattern recognition as well. Just matching strings would be too “broad” I guess because users use a lot of the same strings. You could also check the links in a post too, just in case the strings are different but hyperlinks are the same.

3. Frequency of post

If someone makes 5 post in under a minute, 8 times out of 10, probably a spammer. In which lock the account from making anymore post until further notice so it stops them from spreading more spam.

I would also recommend this book and this book. Kind of dated, but still has good enough in them. If your a pirate, unfortunately I am, you can get those books from here and here.

If any of these ideas are in consideration for use, I’d recommend deleting this post so exploits can’t be thought of.

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Bono (18) (@bono95zg) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

problem is bots can still make new accounts. best solution is captcha when making new acc and banning the ones already made.

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Zykanthos (4,758)M (@chodebalm) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

Thanks for the list bro. I’ll pass it on to the appropriate people.

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Filip (2,819)M (@filipek) 4 years, 7 months ago ago
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Jordan Lejuwaan (23,421)A (@jordan) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

I’ve just activated a new spam plugin, crossing my fingers. FYI currently we have a visible CAPTCHA, an invisible honeypot, IP blocking, ASKIMET and Honeypot spam databases being referenced, AND an email confirmation upon signup. These bots are getting really smart…

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Zykanthos (4,758)M (@chodebalm) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

No joke. It’s basically a game of chess – the anti spam measures are created, then the spammers create something to get around it, then additional anti spam measures are created, then more getting around it, and so on and so on. Good ol’ internet chess.

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YHVH (462) (@spaceghost) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

Who is falling for this stuff? I seriously want to know

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Ray Butler (1,422)M (@trek79) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

I have a saying “With new technology comes new crime” people, technology and society evolves, everything seeks advantage, I’d say it leads to the perfect machine but it is yet to be seen if that will suit us or fuck us.

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Manimal (2,997) (@manimal) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

1. Look, banning the IP won’t accomplish anything when you’re dealing with botnets. If it was one person/computer doing the spamming it would work, but that’s never the case.
Not only do new nodes arrive continuously, they all go through serial scrambling and cloaking.

2. THIS.
It’s really not difficult at all. Especially not when the spam is as uniform as it is with these bots.

3. This often works too.
Only problem is, with so many bots it would be a big chore to check that list. Which means that the rare actual member who posts rapidly will be locked for quite some time.

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TJ (57) (@Justus) 4 years, 7 months ago ago

What if the spam is actually a real offer, and we’re all missing out big time? Wouldn’t that suck?

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