Spiritual Awakening vs. Conceptual Awakening

Anonymous (@) 8 years, 9 months ago

Found this to be an article worthy of the time to read it for those interested in such: http://www.energygrid.com/spirit/2012/07ap-spiritualawakening.html

February 14, 2013 at 3:56 am
Anonymous (177) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

“Most of us are too busy being a somebody, too conditioned in framing every experience with identity, to be able to easily disengage from the fantasy of self.
We live in a modern society that is set up to reward only somebodies.
Those with the strongest egos, such as actors and singers for example, have become the new royalty. There are no prizes for being a nobody.

And so our waking up from the illusion of being a somebody can require some serious disengaging from the normal society that is encouraging and rewarding egotism at every opportunity.

This disengaging can range from isolation to spending time only with like-focused souls who have woken up or who want to wake up”. ~ IBID

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Anonymous (177) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

“If we really want to wake up, then we should stop going to the spiritual theatre; a theatrical performance, although profoundly emotive and gripping, is not going to help us. If we really want to wake up, then we need to get intimate with the natural state right here and right now, and any teacher, guru or master that does not specifically encourage us in this intimate introspection, no matter what his or her spiritual reputation and credentials, is an impediment to our awakening. If we really want to wake up, we need to realize the natural state in ourselves, nobody can do it for us. Others can certainly point us in the right direction, but the realization must be our own, otherwise we slip into a spiritual ego and get lost in conceptualisation and spiritual drama.
How many are prepared to give up the flashy exterior — the spiritual look — and make the humble quiet journey into emptiness? Not many! There is nothing flashy or even profound about waking up — it is very basic, very immediate and very simple. When authentic realization happens, many at first will even think they have been conned… “Is that it??” Yup, that’s it! No light emanating from our body, no angels with trumpets, no suddenly knowing of the Akashic records, no special powers, no God’s blessing… just the ordinary sense of being that has been there in the background all along. Nothing special. We find that we have been awake all along, but just not realize it because we have been engrossed in the story of I — attached to being a somebody who knows many things and has life adventures. But that somebody is just a fictitious character we have dreamed up and identified with”. ~ IBID

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Stony Island (115) (@emjay) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

Ricky… Are you awake?

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Anonymous (251) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@rickyferdon, I didn’t have time to read it thoroughly but its a great article. I don’t know, for me I try to avoid using the phrase ‘awakening’ all together. It does have a lot of connotations attached which aren’t required. Its a lot simpler than that I think.

For me, all I know is a change took place, a change which can happen to absolutely anyone on this earth. I am most definitely not special in any which way.

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Anonymous (177) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@emjay, am I?

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Anonymous (177) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@siantastic, liked your reply – you shy away from conceptualizing it, which is what one “wakes up” from – and YES to the last part :0)

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Stony Island (115) (@emjay) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@rickyferdon, hey brother, im not being sarcastic or anything. But I ask because, I believe the concept of “waking up” is different for everyone. How can I be awake if i need someone to tell me to be awake? Then am I really awake? Why not just define what being awake is to me, myself? So I ask you, please tell how YOU describe being awake. What it is to YOU.

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Ray Butler (1,423)M (@trek79) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@rickyferdon, I don’t think there is a problem with conceptually developing ideas for understanding because that is how we become likely to find a more objective application of the things we are trying to understand. Without the abilities of concept, everything proves that they have a function and they fulfill that function, but in humans, as we have that ability of concept, our function becomes relative to that ability.
The important thing is to know that conceptual abilities are just another tool that is part of many many tools we already have, tools that have been developed for our advantage long before concept joined the fold. So concept may well vastly accentuate all the tools we have but that is a complimentary relationship, not a heirachial one, not one where one tool becomes greater in importance, perhaps greater in function but not greater in vitality.
But if we were pure in conceptual ability without all the other functions we have then indeed we could never apply any of our concepts because we lack the other nessecary tools of function.

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Anonymous (177) (@) 8 years, 9 months ago ago

@emjay, Tony, one does not need another to tell one what one already is – but another may aid in that one coming to the realization (waking-up) of that one’s true self/existence, whatever.
@trek79, Ray, there’s nothing wrong, right, good, bad or a problem – I know, seems psycho-spiritual babble – but just saying. And you voice your thoughts very well.

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